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Feb 23 2009, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 10:37 PM)  Imo we should try that line up again next week. I think we'll come to truly appreciate how much having a brazillian influence does on our team. My point exactly. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think we should do alright without them, besides it's only the three that matter (Kaka, Ronaldinho and Pato). Dida, fortunately for some, and unfortunately for others only plays in Europe. So I'd be all for not playing the Brazilians against Sampdoria. Then again, who knows, it might work better, the team may respond better.
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Feb 23 2009, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 23 2009, 11:45 AM)  My point exactly. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think we should do alright without them, besides it's only the three that matter (Kaka, Ronaldinho and Pato). Dida, fortunately for some, and unfortunately for others only plays in Europe. So I'd be all for not playing the Brazilians against Sampdoria. Then again, who knows, it might work better, the team may respond better. lol acid you are a legend haha. Are you being sarcastic or serious, i can no longer tell hahahahhaha (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Feb 23 2009, 06:55 PM
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Oddly, I'd use a very different term. But that discussion has already happened more times than I care to remember and I no longer have interest in arguing the point.
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Feb 23 2009, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 23 2009, 11:50 AM)  In life nothing is certain acid .. I think its more like Bayern should look at Milan and learn (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Look, we all want the same thing. Its just that you need to see things more rationally. Sure its easy sitting here I could draw up a brilliant plan for Milan for the next ten years, I could even argue that with my plan Milan is guaranteed at least a trophy every season. But that is not taking into account injuries to key players and I could drive Milan far into the minus that it would need financing to maintain its short term liabilities, and that is just taking things lightly. But who cares, my plan 'IMO' (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) is destined for success because it is based on buying the best young players and having the best coach in the world winning things for my team. Then again, you have a conservative management who have been on top of the pyramid for so many years and have seen it all. They have been through so many scenarios in managing this club than any management currently in office. And though the current years have shown Milan underachieve, it goes by the premise that in life nothing is certain. perfect. I agree 100% Its just what maybe you dont see right now R7 is that for those fans who have been so used to staying on top of the chain for so many years and now have to see even inter do better than us; i can understand why the outrageous actions like whisteling at seedorf, bullets sent to hq and empty seats happen. Personally I'm one of those frustrated fans but i can understand that things don't take 1-2 years to fix. We'll be probably be in this hole next season but we will eventually get out. I know that you can see both sides of the arguement as well which is why you post very little negativity in response to what has happened. Question: you must feel frustration or us losing does not have an effect on you? just wondering there is no strings attached.
This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Feb 23 2009, 06:58 PM
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Feb 23 2009, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:50 PM)  In life nothing is certain acid .. I think its more like Bayern should look at Milan and learn
Look, we all want the same thing. Its just that you need to see things more rationally. Sure its easy sitting here I could draw up a brilliant plan for Milan for the next ten years, I could even argue that with my plan Milan is guaranteed at least a trophy every season. But that is not taking into account injuries to key players and I could drive Milan far into the minus that it would need financing to maintain its short term liabilities, and that is just taking things lightly. But who cares, my plan 'IMO' is destined for success because it is based on buying the best young players and having the best coach in the world winning things for my team.
Then again, you have a conservative management who have been on top of the pyramid for so many years and have seen it all. They have been through so many scenarios in managing this club than any management currently in office. And though the current years have shown Milan underachieve, it goes by the premise that in life nothing is certain. Agree as a whole, but my point was not success, not a trophy a season type of thing. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It was going out and putting up a solid, confident showing. I've always maintained that I won't mind 5th place again this season if we FOUGHT FOR IT. What we're doing now is not fighting, it's something else entirely. We have a scared management/coach that's afraid to try and change things, because they fear something might go wrong. Well news flash: What's gone wrong already did. This is the time to change things for the better. Part of it is because of Carlo. He's not been the same coach after Istanbul 2005 - and should have called it quits then. Because his fears have started affecting the team as a whole. Other than that, I agree with what you're trying to say. My $0.15 cents. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Feb 23 2009, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2009, 11:55 AM)  Oddly, I'd use a very different term. But that discussion has already happened more times than I care to remember and I no longer have interest in arguing the point. Just curious. If you could swap 5 players on our team for any players in the world, which 5 would you swap. forget value etc and contracts. What would be your ideal combo. for me i would swap kaladze-> vidic abbiati-> casillas pato-> ibra seedorf-> gerrard janku-> daniel alves starting line up: casillas, alves, nesta, vidic, zambro, beckham, pirlo, gerrard, kaka, dinho, ibra Everyone feel to respond to this as well. I would like to know what kind team everyone on this forum would field and what play style they are interested in.
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Feb 23 2009, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 08:56 PM)  perfect. I agree 100% Its just what maybe you dont see right now R7 is that for those fans who have been so used to staying on top of the chain for so many years and now have to see even inter do better than us; i can understand why the outrageous actions like whisteling at seedorf, bullets sent to hq and empty seats happen.
Personally I'm one of those frustrated fans but i can understand that things don't take 1-2 years to fix. We'll be probably be in this hole next season but we will eventually get out.
I know that you can see both sides of the arguement as well which is why you post very little negativity in response to what has happened.
Question: you must feel frustration or us losing does not have an effect on you? just wondering there is no strings attached. Of course I feel frustrated .. But the amount of negativity on this forum cancels it out in a matter of seconds. You just go through the match threads Blue, and count the number of negative posts. Not one player is spared, the coach has been painted as the main culprit and if those two arguments get old, the negativity is directed to those in the administration. That's the main reason why I don't post negative posts, its because I know Milan are better than the way posters on here paint them to be. We are all frustrated, me Tennie, LaPalma, Jack, Kurt, dst, Max, acid, you, ... We all have our own ideas of how the team should play and how the management should act. And this is a forum, where each can say whatever he/she wants and can defend his or her opinion freely. It's just that it has gotten to the point that there is basically no rational in posting negative posts. The coach is considered clueless, the players are too old and the management apparently is satisfied with the team underachieving (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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Feb 23 2009, 07:18 PM
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+1.
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Feb 23 2009, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 23 2009, 12:16 PM)  Of course I feel frustrated .. But the amount of negativity on this forum cancels it out in a matter of seconds. You just go through the match threads Blue, and count the number of negative posts. Not one player is spared, the coach has been painted as the main culprit and if those two arguments get old, the negativity is directed to those in the administration. That's the main reason why I don't post negative posts, its because I know Milan are better than the way posters on here paint them to be. We are all frustrated, me Tennie, LaPalma, Jack, Kurt, dst, Max, acid, you, ... We all have our own ideas of how the team should play and how the management should act. And this is a forum, where each can say whatever he/she wants and can defend his or her opinion freely. It's just that it has gotten to the point that there is basically no rational in posting negative posts. The coach is considered clueless, the players are too old and the management apparently is satisfied with the team underachieving (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Oh i see. Yeah i used to do that as well with negative match game comments but i guess i feel the same as you. But what can you do, the voices on these forums are no different than most of the voices in milan and most of the voices of our club's fan base. i think most people think this way: We are tired of under achieving and we want it fixed right now! Through whatever means necessary.
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Feb 23 2009, 07:25 PM
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Piranha might have to consider letting you out of the tank, R7. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Feb 23 2009, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Feb 23 2009, 01:25 PM)  i think most people think this way: We are tired of under achieving and we want it fixed right now! Through whatever means necessary. I don't think the majority feel that way. Not in those terms at least. The entire world isn't an instant gratification society.
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