Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hopefully this continues till the end of the season! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Minus Dida who should feature in UEFA Cup.

Unbelievable...

Unbelievable is nothing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) I hope the management stops buying Brazilians, sell the ones they have to the highest bidder, and invest in Chinese talents. Or Mongolians, for that matter. 75% or more Italians and the remaining from some other place, besides Brazil, of course.

That will keep everyone happy, and we may as well win something for a change!

I wouldn't call having a team that is probably one of the best in Europe in all areas, from the keeper to having one of the top 3 strikers/attacking midfieldrs in the game as having so little. It's only in these last 2 seasons that we haven't had the quality we had in the past under Carlo. He is the coach that had headaches like Sheva and Pippo/Tomasson/Crespo Rui Costa/Kaka/Rivaldo or Stam/Cafu on the right or playing Stam and Nesta in the middle but still having Paolo Maldini that could either play there or on the left, I wouldn't call that so little with any stretch of the imagination. For me with all the resources he had he should have won a lot more then he actually did, let's not forget the blunders in the CL both in 04 and 05, those seasons where we should have run away with the CL and the league.

Yes these last few seasons he had to deal with an ageing squad that is more injury prone, but he still had a lot of quality in the team and does not excuse the 2 terrible seasons we've had and what looks like is going to be another repeat this season. So you think that Fiorentina have a better squad then us? Is it justified that they beet us to 4th last season, is it even justified that we've been fighting for 4th in the league these last 2 seasons? Even when Juve were not even in the league. Do you think he did well with the squad he had at his disposal? Because imo Carlo has underachieved big time at Milan, there are coaches out there who would do more with far less riches then Carlo has had at Milan

Excellent post, Han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Saved me a lot of typing!

See, I think this is just a matter of perspective, when all is said and done. Members on the other side of the argument probably see it as quite the opposite. Whatever his faults are, I, me and others here wouldn't be complaining that much if we didn't drop all those useless points, and were actually winning regularly. I won't have said a word if we were 3rd by now, had we gave it our best shot, with our best players. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) How he handles the young talent, his stubbornness, his insistence on playing Christmas tree, and everything else would have mattered a lot less if the results were there. Which they aren't because even though we have a talented squad, we find it hard to unlock small teams because of the way we play and our mentality, as well as lack of motivation from certain players.

I think it is safe to say that Milan is not as solid as it was in the early millennium. I believe somone on the forum said that a while ago and I agree with him/her 100%. During that time, and under Carlo's guidance, Milan dominated in every aspect of the game. It was a really strong squad with the potential to play CL and Serie A and go for top honors in both, simultaneously.

Today, Milan are an old side considering the age of the players on hand. But that doesn't mean Milan are not able to compete, in fact Milan is the most technical team in Italy at the moment. Milan has so many players in its roster that can decide and finish off a match if given the chance. Problem why Milan is not achieving is that injuries have pulled the team down a bit.

As a fan, I cheer for Milan and the reason I watch matches is because of the fondness and attachment that I have with the colors of Milan. In the bad times and the good times, of course nothing is constant or else la merda would still be fighting for 3rd place season in - season out. Hence, there comes a time when the team is not running on all twelve cylinders - just like this season.

But make no mistake, that this is a heavy weight club and will get back to winning silverware. I had this belief that this would be the season Milan would resurrect itself and win the Scudetto, but all that has some what faded away. Still, I believe this team is capable of doing more than it had done and most likely win those matches that it had lost, had Nesta been around - someone Milan has missed deeply.

All things taken into account, this club is a proud club and the turning of the tide will happen soon.

Careful, R7. You'll be tarred and feathered for daring to write something positive about the club. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That's always a given, if the good times didn't last, the bad times won't either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What matters is how soon? And with what amount of damage? Clubs run in cycles, true. The good ones and the bad.

But give me one good reason why we don't learn from our mistakes in the 80s and late 90s? Why wasn't the next generation groomed to take over from this one? Why not Darmian? Why not Paloschi? Why not other younger players? Why must we fall into the same trap, and try and get out wasting precious time and money? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) We can't find a tall, strong, 25 and above half decent striker from Milan? Or Italy for that matter? That means there is something wrong, because if we can't compete with other clubs and leagues in signing expensive talent, then we should grow our own.

But not for one instance do I blame you, R7, for hoping that the tide will turn. I'm with you on this, because I know it will.

It has turned once for me, hence from experience I know it will turn again.

The club learn from their mistakes ? What mistakes, you are talking about one of the most successful clubs in world football, if you have missed the bigger portion of 20+ years 'success in the making' and only tuned into these past 4 years, then obviously you'll be disappointed. But take a look at the big picture and you will know, deep down inside that this is a proud club and will bounce back again as it did before.

p.s. not directed at you acid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) just in general (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

What are we talking about, exactly?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Towards the end of the 90s, is what I'm talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) We did everything from missing the CL spots, to finishing 6th and 11th (was it?), losing our key players one by one, changing coaches twice a season. It was only after Carlo signed up, and we invested in our Golden Generation that things started to change. Then there was also the mistakes that resulted in the crowd booing the team under who, Sacchi, I suppose. They were disappointed enough with proceedings that they started throwing things at Paolo and Billy.

Irrespective of that, if we didn't want to learn from our mistakes, we should have learned from other clubs. We should have learned from Bayern. All I want is some semblance of sanity from the management, at least in looking forward to the future and grooming young players.


Why, of course not! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Kidding. I know, I know. LOL. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

@han---


I can't agree with you on several parts man. Yes when we did have the squad we did carlo should have done better but how many years did he have this squad? 4 years. These last 3 years he hasn't had the chance to get the players he wanted. When sheva left, instead of a proper sub he got oli, which was useless. The season after he got an 18 year old. Personally i would have quit right there because that is just pure BS, when your in a club like AC milan and your president is one of the richest men in the world. Secondly he has wanted an intelligent and play making midfielder and what he got instead were emerson/ a 20 year old useless cardaccio/ flamini, who is a defensive mid/ and beckham who is 33 and can last tops 60 minutes.

Look at our defence, after stam/cafu/sergio were gone who did we have left. Instead of getting a solid centre back like united did with acquiring vidic or liverpool with skrtel; We buy bonera and oddo. We lose world class players and sub them with average players. This season when we should have bought several proper defensive players, we bought zambrotta (31) who is just a quick fix; and senderos who is a arsesnal reject.

Finally, looking at our goalkeeper situation, when dida became useless, instead of buying a proper sub in the window in january we decided to field kalac! This season, who did we get to replace dida and kalac? abbiati who to be fair is playing well but when we could bought a much better goal keeper like boruc, says a lot where our team is going to go this season.

When you replace AAA quality with AA quality your going to get AA results. Hence the fact that were in uefa cup and sitting in 2nd/3rd and possibly maybe 4th.

The only player that carlo ever got in the last 3 years that what was a world class player was ronaldinho. 1 player in 3 windows; truly truly...sad.

Blaming carlo is understandable and i'm in the same boat as you as a fan but you have to admit with what we got this season, he has been doing a great job.

But we wont know until he is gone and we can truly appreciate what we lost.


I truly feel your frustration man and maybe if we had sold Kaka we would have had a better squad next season with a different coach and a new perspective on how our game is played, but we got what we got. Getting upset is not going to change a thing.

But i'm letting you know that i feel the exact same as you in regards to almost all issues you comment on. I think most of milan's fan base feels this way as well.

LOLL, Never noticed. Good eyes miz.


Imo we should try that line up again next week. I think we'll come to truly appreciate how much having a brazillian influence does on our team.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSS

What's wrong with the goal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)