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 Jan 5 2009, 10:32 AM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564  |
Welcome Chelsea fan!
Ivanovic was supposed to be signed by Milan last summer but...the deal blew off. But I don't think he's what Milan needs right now. Alex is good, I agree, but I'm not so sure we should expand our brazilian contingent any more. Mexes would be just fine, he's doing good and I think he already outgrown Roma in some ways. |
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Jan 5 2009, 12:27 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
You named some good options, Chelsea fan. The problem is that Milan cannot take any more non-eu players this year (in Italy, there's a rule that limits non-eu acquisitions to two a year and Milan have already bought their two) so neither Ivanovic nor Alex are options for January. I think we'd all be thrilled to get Chiellini but as has been stated in other threads, he's a key player for Juventus and they're very unlikely to let him go for any reason. Mexes is a good option too, and probably the most likely of the list you named.
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Jan 5 2009, 02:22 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 5 2009, 11:32 AM)  I'm not so sure we should expand our brazilian contingent any more What's with this obsession you and Tennie have? |
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Jan 5 2009, 03:00 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
For my part, dst, I'd rather see an Italian Milan rather than a Brazilian one.
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Jan 5 2009, 03:17 PM
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Pulcini 99  Group: Full Members Posts: 41 Joined: 8-August 08 From: Milan Member No.: 4,023 |
I think Daniel Agger would be a good but as he's a solid defender. Also I like Mexes but would he come at a cheap price?
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Jan 5 2009, 04:20 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 5 2009, 02:22 PM) What's with this obsession you and Tennie have? Well, I think we have enough of them. I do consider football a sport where nationality matters in a way that it gives identity. If you have 10 brazilians on field, you get that "brazilian mojo" and identity. I like them, but not that much to dream of a all-brazilian Milan squad. |
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Jan 5 2009, 04:42 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 5 2009, 08:20 PM) Well, I think we have enough of them. I do consider football a sport where nationality matters in a way that it gives identity. If you have 10 brazilians on field, you get that "brazilian mojo" and identity. I like them, but not that much to dream of a all-brazilian Milan squad. What about having one less Brazilian than Italians? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) I don't mind anyone as long as they help us win, and as long as we have an Italian core. But saying no to Brazilians just because they're Brazilians isn't the wisest of ideas. If they are good, they're good. And this goes for everyone, excluding Italians to preserve the core. Just my humble $0.02! |
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Jan 5 2009, 04:45 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Thing is, acid, it seems to me like a lot of folks aer saying yes to Brazilians just because they're Brazilians. And I don't like that. Also, to me an Italian core isn't 50% +1. It's ideally something more like 75%.
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Jan 5 2009, 05:13 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 5 2009, 08:45 PM) Thing is, acid, it seems to me like a lot of folks aer saying yes to Brazilians just because they're Brazilians. And I don't like that. Also, to me an Italian core isn't 50% +1. It's ideally something more like 75%. Provided they qualify. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) Problem is I don't see that happening much, in this generation. The time of guys like Maldini, Nesta, Inzaghi, Pirlo, Gattuso, and friends has come and gone. The new batch is decent, if not spectacular, and spectacular is a must for club like Milan. I'd take players from other nationalities if no other Italian is available that is equal to or better than them. We have to win games, after all. What good is an all Italian club if it can't win regularly! |
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Jan 5 2009, 05:16 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 5 2009, 04:42 PM) What about having one less Brazilian than Italians? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) I don't mind anyone as long as they help us win, and as long as we have an Italian core. But saying no to Brazilians just because they're Brazilians isn't the wisest of ideas. If they are good, they're good. And this goes for everyone, excluding Italians to preserve the core. Just my humble $0.02! By italian core you mean Gattuso-Ambrosini-Pirlo? Cause actually, it could happen that only those three end up first-team players next season. I don't think Milan has a solid italian core anyomore. Especially after Maldini retires. |
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Jan 5 2009, 05:18 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jan 5 2009, 05:13 PM) Provided they qualify. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) Problem is I don't see that happening much, in this generation. The time of guys like Maldini, Nesta, Inzaghi, Pirlo, Gattuso, and friends has come and gone. The new batch is decent, if not spectacular, and spectacular is a must for club like Milan. I'd take players from other nationalities if no other Italian is available that is equal to or better than them. We have to win games, after all. What good is an all Italian club if it can't win regularly! I don't have any problem with Kaka or Ronaldinho or Pato playing for Milan. I just think there are too many brazilians right now. And I'm sure Italy can offer better defenders then Thiago Silva. |
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Jan 5 2009, 05:23 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Acid, I'm shocked that you think Pirlo and Gattuso's time has come and gone.
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Jan 5 2009, 05:30 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
We're no Juventus. we can never be that Italian because people at the helm of this club have a fetish for foreign players.
QUOTE it seems to me like a lot of folks aer saying yes to Brazilians just because they're Brazilians. If it was up to me, I'd only keep Kaka, Pato and Dinho from our current Brazilians... |
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Jan 5 2009, 05:32 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Thing is, zd, Milan traditionally have even more Azzurri starters than the Gobbi. Clearly that's not the case right now. And that fact bothers me.
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Jan 5 2009, 05:36 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jan 5 2009, 08:02 PM) Thing is, zd, Milan traditionally have even more Azzurri starters than the Gobbi. Clearly that's not the case right now. And that fact bothers me. Azzurri starters or Italians? that's two different things. I've heard Juve have had more Italians [overall] in their squad than Milan in recent decades. is that true? |
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