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 Palermo-Milan 30/11/08, Serie A week 14 |
 Nov 30 2008, 05:28 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109  |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 04:57 PM)  @Han you're really a spin-doctor... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Quote: I never talked about the season standings. I just SAID and I'll say it over and over again -- I don't think Ancelottis tactics were a complete faliure nor do I think the coach should be 100% or even more then 50% responsible for the last season complete failure! Maldini. Hah!! He's not playing much these days. If it were different I'm sure we'd allready have some of those "should have retired a long time ago" posts. Cause that's what I remember reading over and over agin last season. To me they are a failure, if you concider the CL win as an accomplishment then so be it, but I don't cincider that something that Carlo achieved, rather Kaka's brilliance and shear determination to drag the team on even through the toughest of times. As for Maldini, I can only speak for myself but, I never once said that he should have retired a long time ago, you can chack all my posts and you'de never find something like that in my posts. @kurt GREAT POST!! Although I disagree with a couple of points you made regarding Pirlo, Nesta, etc but I agree with everything else you said. It's harsh but brutally honest. |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:04 PM
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Milanfan to Death  Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
It all starts from the Top Management. If they cannot care less. How can the rest of the team?
I mean if the Baldy Guy really wants back-to-back wins, he would've sacked Carlo Ancelotti a long time ago. But no. Cuz why? Cuz he's a coward. |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:13 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:28 PM) As for Maldini, I can only speak for myself but, I never once said that he should have retired a long time ago, you can chack all my posts and you'de never find something like that in my posts. No thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I wouldn't do that even if I was paid. Going through all 10,108 posts! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:14 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (amancik @ Nov 30 2008, 10:04 PM) It all starts from the Top Management. If they cannot care less. How can the rest of the team? I mean if the Baldy Guy really wants back-to-back wins, he would've sacked Carlo Ancelotti a long time ago. But no. Cuz why? Cuz he's a coward. Your posts are always unique. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:23 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 05:28 PM) To me they are a failure, if you concider the CL win as an accomplishment then so be it, but I don't cincider that something that Carlo achieved, rather Kaka's brilliance and shear determination to drag the team on even through the toughest of times. As for Maldini, I can only speak for myself but, I never once said that he should have retired a long time ago, you can chack all my posts and you'de never find something like that in my posts. @kurt GREAT POST!! Although I disagree with a couple of points you made regarding Pirlo, Nesta, etc but I agree with everything else you said. It's harsh but brutally honest. Okay, I agree we have different opinions on Ancelotti. Never then less, I respect yours. |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:38 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 06:22 PM) Okay, my responses in order. zd, why do you insist on the pessimism in thinking we're going to fall down the table? Pirlo's back, Ronaldinho is hitting form, and traditionally Milan start playing their best football after the winter ritiro. If Kaka were benched for poor play - and I think he should be - I can only imagine the howls of outrage that would come. It may be a fault of Ancelotti for starting the names even if they play poorly, but if some people point fingers at his insistence on playing 2 DMs, then I'm going to point fingers at him playing a Kaka in sucktastic form. And the thing is, even if he did whatever it is we'd like to see him do, there's no proof at all that it would have any change in the results of games. OK, I'll just answer this and we'll continue it maybe some other day. One thing I don't get is this 'Milan will start playing better from January'. I don't feel Milan is the only team that benefits from the winter break. if Milan will start playing better, so will likes of Juve, Inter, etc. I don't see it as an specific advantage for Milan. As for Milan falling down the table, I could be wrong. time will tell. I think we will not be in the 2nd place come January. we have one tough game tonight and four in a row before the break. the way we're playing right now I can't see us grabbing all 15 points from these 5 fixtures. QUOTE if some people point fingers at his insistence on playing 2 DMs, then I'm going to point fingers at him playing a Kaka in sucktastic form. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I like Kaka but if his benching means a better Milan I don't have any problem with that! I don't get this quote, Tennie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE And the thing is, even if he did whatever it is we'd like to see him do, there's no proof at all that it would have any change in the results of games. Of course there isn't any guarantee. but one thing is certain, we're playing poorly and something needs to be done. if changes don't work and we still continue playing like this, then the coach should be shown the exit door! Anywhere in the world, the coach is the 1st person responsible for a team's poor results/performances because he is the one who decides which players play. I just don't understand this 'the coach is as much at fault as the players'. I respectfully think this is a very wrong statement, Tennie. QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Nov 30 2008, 06:30 PM) i would like to comment on kaka thing.... pirlo was terrible last year but still very important to milan play and we strugled even more without him and same is with kaka we struggle without him and even if he is not playing at his best he can win games IMO just like pirlo add something extra kaka does it too even if they are not playing to their full potential this has been the case over the last couple of seasons A very good point. |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:46 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:13 PM) No thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I wouldn't do that even if I was paid. Going through all 10,108 posts! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Ah still jelous of my 10,000 I see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 06:23 PM) Okay, I agree we have different opinions on Ancelotti. Never then less, I respect yours. And I respect yours, and like you said, let's agree to disagree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:51 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:46 PM) And I respect yours, and like you said, let's agree to disagree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) +1 cookie to han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) My sentiments precisely. I don't think I'm ever going to fully agree with han, zd, and kurt with regard to the coach and some other things. They're not likely ever to fully agree with me. That's cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So...the game starts in 90 minutes. Given the unpopularity of the Christmas tree (but without Kaladze in defense), what are your thoughts on the game? |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:52 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:46 PM) Ah still jelous of my 10,000 I see. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) A war is a war is a war. Gotta take it seriously! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 30 2008, 06:55 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 10:51 PM) So...the game starts in 90 minutes. Given the unpopularity of the Christmas tree (but without Kaladze in defense), what are your thoughts on the game? Not particularly healthy ones, I'm afraid. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Unless the team steps up big time from the display of the last few matches, I'd half expect us to come back with a draw - or at best another late 1-0 strike. We could do with all 3 points, though, so yeah, hopefully we show some good energy. Forza Milan! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) As always! |
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Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Milan have to win, not just to keep up with Inter and Juve, but because it's been a horrible weekend in terms of results. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
We're gonna get does 3 point...
Hmhm...no one to predict the predictable Milan? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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Nov 30 2008, 07:16 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 30 2008, 11:00 PM) Hmhm...no one to predict the predictable Milan? We're predictable for the opponents only. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) For everyone else (including the fans and media) we're about as unpredictable as they come. So yeah, it's not easy forecasting the result, when you don't know which Milan will show up. At least for me it isn't. |
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Nov 30 2008, 07:41 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 30 2008, 06:51 PM) +1 cookie to han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) My sentiments precisely. I don't think I'm ever going to fully agree with han, zd, and kurt with regard to the coach and some other things. They're not likely ever to fully agree with me. That's cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So...the game starts in 90 minutes. Given the unpopularity of the Christmas tree (but without Kaladze in defense), what are your thoughts on the game? Well let's just say I'm not confident about it and end it there. Thanks for the cookie btw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:52 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) A war is a war is a war. Gotta take it seriously! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) U know acid dis hole corecting my gramer ting has me tinking tat yu r only doing it to get the post count up... QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM) Milan have to win, not just to keep up with Inter and Juve, but because it's been a horrible weekend in terms of results. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Did Chelsea lose btw? I couldn't see the entire match and missed the last few minutes |
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Nov 30 2008, 07:49 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 11:41 PM) U know acid dis hole corecting my gramer ting has me tinking tat yu r only doing it to get the post count up... I'm actually surprised it took you so long to understand this! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2008, 11:41 PM) I know Did Chelsea lose btw? I couldn't see the entire match and missed the last few minutes Yup. 2-1. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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