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post Aug 8 2008, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Aug 5 2008, 04:06 PM) *
any tv channel showing it ?


Polsat Sport
Channel Five (England)
NTV+Sport
Sport Klub (Slovenija)
Boom Sport (Romania)


EDIT: And for you guys watching from the Middle East Jazeera +2

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post Aug 8 2008, 04:36 PM
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yes that means i could watch it this time on t.v =)
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post Aug 8 2008, 05:00 PM
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The apparent list of players..


Milan squad:
Goalkeepers: Abbiati, Dida, Kalac
Defenders: Antonini, Bonera, Favalli, Jankulovski, Maldini, Oddo, Simic, Zambrotta
Midfielders: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Cardacio, Flamini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf
Strikers: Paloschi, Viudez

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Those are the players called up. Dida is the only one confirmed right now [we will get the formation just before the game of course], but this would permit us to play a more logical formation rather than that mutated one we played against Chelsea. The two youngsters could be given an opportunity, or at least I hope they are. We could use that pace.

I'm happy we have them... they could prove very useful for Milan and they increase our depth tremendously.

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post Aug 8 2008, 05:05 PM
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Edit: I posted Carlo's interview, but I found out it was posted already. My apologies.

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post Aug 8 2008, 05:51 PM
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Smoosh Man City into the ground, they've got Villa first game of the season, so I don't want them being all confident when they play us!
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post Aug 8 2008, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 8 2008, 04:51 PM) *
Smoosh Man City into the ground, they've got Villa first game of the season, so I don't want them being all confident when they play us!

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I think this will be a draw
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post Aug 8 2008, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 8 2008, 10:24 PM) *
I think this will be a draw

And an honorable one at that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's all about the money. You can't expect us to fly a couple of thousand miles up north and defeat them in a friendly match at the start of their season. If they don't draw or win, and get a holdup for their first few games in the series, their fans are going to kill the management.

Now what happened with 5-0 Chelsea I never could understand. Maybe it happened to default our very own Kalac to third place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Can't see any another reason, particularly when we couldn't even score - wait for it - once. Even though Chelsea were playing with their second-string team (no Drogba), they meant pure business. Maybe they were trying to make up to their fans for that expensive Ukrainian. 3-0 is bad enough as anything, 5 goals without reply is taking it on a whole different level. Friendlies or not.
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post Aug 8 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 8 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Now what happened with 5-0 Chelsea I never could understand. Maybe it happened to default our very own Kalac to third place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Can't see any another reason, particularly when we couldn't even score - wait for it - once. Even though Chelsea were playing with their second-string team (no Drogba), they meant pure business. Maybe they were trying to make up to their fans for that expensive Ukrainian. 3-0 is bad enough as anything, 5 goals without reply is taking it on a whole different level. Friendlies or not.


What happened in Chelsea is the fact we had a lop-sided formation with Pirlo and Ambrosini playing as strikers. Something I never want to see again. It's not fair to anyone. We got two Uruguayans to play now... one can be played as a forward (or a supporting striker for that matter).

And if I recall, Chelsea did field a pretty strong line-up...

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post Aug 8 2008, 08:43 PM
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When does the match start? 19:00 CET?
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post Aug 8 2008, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 8 2008, 10:34 PM) *
Now what happened with 5-0 Chelsea I never could understand. Maybe it happened to default our very own Kalac to third place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Can't see any another reason, particularly when we couldn't even score - wait for it - once. Even though Chelsea were playing with their second-string team (no Drogba), they meant pure business. Maybe they were trying to make up to their fans for that expensive Ukrainian. 3-0 is bad enough as anything, 5 goals without reply is taking it on a whole different level. Friendlies or not.



Chelsea played a very competitive team, unlike Milan. Drogba or no Drogba, Chelsea had a very good team on the pitch .. Yet that isn't a reason to feel bad about the score line.

Still, Milan doesn't loose in such a manner! And if you want to get to the root of this all, look at the facts; Milan had only 1 attacking player available in the whole line up. In which case, the team was always going to remain unbalanced.

And the fact that Pirlo was fielded upfront, just solidifies the argument that Milan didn't have a team ready to face Chelsea.

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QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 8 2008, 08:34 PM) *
And an honorable one at that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's all about the money. You can't expect us to fly a couple of thousand miles up north and defeat them in a friendly match at the start of their season. If they don't draw or win, and get a holdup for their first few games in the series, their fans are going to kill the management.

Now what happened with 5-0 Chelsea I never could understand. Maybe it happened to default our very own Kalac to third place? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Can't see any another reason, particularly when we couldn't even score - wait for it - once. Even though Chelsea were playing with their second-string team (no Drogba), they meant pure business. Maybe they were trying to make up to their fans for that expensive Ukrainian. 3-0 is bad enough as anything, 5 goals without reply is taking it on a whole different level. Friendlies or not.

What happened against Chelsea was a combination of a lot of things, yes we didn't manage to score but that was down to Carlo's ridiculous tactics getting riddled by 5 goals was our CBs being cr@p Paolo was not ready to play against opposition like Chelsea Bonera made some mistakes that he usually doesn't do and Simic was rusty like always because he never plays and there is no reason to get into the whole Kaladze debate, he showed again that he's mediocre at best but gor some ungodly reason he will still start games (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And Chelsea had a full strength team out there, Yes Drogba was not there and Bosingwa wasn't there either but otherwise it was a full strength team.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 8 2008, 08:43 PM) *
When does the match start? 19:00 CET?

6:30 CET

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 8 2008, 08:55 PM) *
Chelsea played a very competitive team, unlike Milan. Drogba or no Drogba, Chelsea had a very good team on the pitch .. Yet that isn't a reason to feel bad about the score line.

Still, Milan doesn't loose in such a manner! And if you want to get to the root of this all, look at the facts; Milan had only 1 attacking player available in the whole line up. In which case, the team was always going to remain unbalanced.

And the fact that Pirlo was fielded upfront, just solidifies the argument that Milan didn't have a team ready to face Chelsea.

Yep, Chelsea had the team that will probably line up against Portsmouth against us.

Imo Carlo got everything wrong in terms of formation and tactics. yes he had limited options but he still left Seedorf and Paloschi on the bench and had he played them instead of having Ambro and Zambrotta as forwards he should have played the xmas tree with Seedorf and Pirlo supporting Paloschi and Ambro, Rino and Flamini in the midfield 3. Carlo's formation was as you said unbalanced and his whole game plane was based on either hoofing the ball up to Ambro and hoping he doesn;t trip on it or scoring from a set piece
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post Aug 8 2008, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 8 2008, 08:05 PM) *
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Yep, Chelsea had the team that will probably line up against Portsmouth against us.

Imo Carlo got everything wrong in terms of formation and tactics. yes he had limited options but he still left Seedorf and Paloschi on the bench and had he played them instead of having Ambro and Zambrotta as forwards he should have played the xmas tree with Seedorf and Pirlo supporting Paloschi and Ambro, Rino and Flamini in the midfield 3. Carlo's formation was as you said unbalanced and his whole game plane was based on either hoofing the ball up to Ambro and hoping he doesn;t trip on it or scoring from a set piece


This is simply not fair. Seedorf is not a striker, and Paloschi has played 5 games in 15 days. He played in a U-19 Championship and the final. It's just not fair to Paloschi and he could have had an injury. I've read somewhere he was tired after all he has been through. While the game was imbalanced, I'll take that over risking injury to Paloschi.

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post Aug 8 2008, 09:11 PM
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is anybody going to the game??
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:05 PM) *
Yep, Chelsea had the team that will probably line up against Portsmouth against us.

Imo Carlo got everything wrong in terms of formation and tactics. yes he had limited options but he still left Seedorf and Paloschi on the bench and had he played them instead of having Ambro and Zambrotta as forwards he should have played the xmas tree with Seedorf and Pirlo supporting Paloschi and Ambro, Rino and Flamini in the midfield 3. Carlo's formation was as you said unbalanced and his whole game plane was based on either hoofing the ball up to Ambro and hoping he doesn;t trip on it or scoring from a set piece


On hindsight, yes ... But Carlo stated before the match that Palo didnt get any rest and was very tired.

Palo played with the NT and went directly to prepare with Milan for the Tim Trophy. And leaving out Seedorf might have been a precaution for something in particular.

han no one likes to loose, but at the end of the day there was nothing to gain from this match cuz it was a friendly.

Carlo takes the blame ? Why, because he doesn't know how to make omelettes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I didn't watch the match han ... I only saw the highlights yesterday after work .... To concede 3 goals in the opening minutes of the game, that is a matter to frown down upon.

But to start pointing fingers ... We already know that Carlo didn't have the players to complete the team, hence the team was bound to be 'unbalanced' .... you described the unbalancing as if it was Ambro's falt or Carlos .... The fault isn't there .. The fault is on the misfortune of Milan for having lost Inzaghi, Borriello, Kaka', and Nesta. And that Pato and Ronaldinho were not available. If you put these FIRST TEAM players back in the fold, I doubt Chelsea would have had an easy game, just as the scoreline suggested.

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