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Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 30 2008, 05:24 PM)  Carlo of all people...hahaha...they must have brought out his past as a Juve coach. They did. Unsurprisingly. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 30 2008, 06:50 PM)  I see people are going easy on Carlo for some reason though, let's see what happens when Jose does his first controversial thing of the season! Let's. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Should be fun. QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 30 2008, 07:04 PM)  Wow, you don't seem to be a fan of Carletto, Kurt. No. He isn't. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hehehe. QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 30 2008, 07:13 PM)  No, I'm not. I think he did a very poor job with an excellent group of players. To only win what he's won with the likes of Dida, Maldini, Stam, Nesta, Pirlo, Rino, Ambro, Kaka', Rui, Sheva, etc. is not good enough really. Ditto. He should have won at least double, if not more. Particularly in Serie A. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) His arrogance is what lets him down during 38 games in the league. Sticks to his ways.
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Jul 30 2008, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 30 2008, 07:50 PM)  He should have been more careful ... But if, of all people, Carlo gives a reaction like that, it must have been something very harsh that was being thrown at him Of all people? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Carlo has had his moments, the one exciting moment I remember was when in Istanbul when we scored our 2nd or 3rd goal. That was very unlike-Carlo. But apparently, fans did say something very harsh, and while he should have been more careful (with him being a public personality and all), I can't blame him. If any, it was a very un-elitist thing to do. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Something which I won't associate with other top name people.
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Jul 30 2008, 04:33 PM
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Hmmm....well...not really classy IMO. What Porty said. Carletto should have been more careful in regard of his position as role model.
Should he have won more? I don't think so. Other clubs also had great teams at that time, especially Juve. He did well. People always tend to believe it's easy to win titles with high-profile teams. But it isn't. Coping with all these stars certainly isn't the easiest ob jobs.
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Jul 30 2008, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 30 2008, 04:50 PM)  I see people are going easy on Carlo for some reason though, let's see what happens when Jose does his first controversial thing of the season! It's vice versa for you! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jul 30 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 30 2008, 08:33 PM)  Should he have won more? I don't think so. Other clubs also had great teams at that time, especially Juve. He did well. People always tend to believe it's easy to win titles with high-profile teams. But it isn't. Coping with all these stars certainly isn't the easiest ob jobs. We didn't have stars. More like titans: Paolo, Nesta, Kaka, Rui, Sheva, and what not. All these players were a cut above the regular stars with teams have. And for them to have won only one Serie A in this period is a bit of a letdown, honestly. His real test came last season, when he did not have these stars, and we all know what happened. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Of course, it's a controversial and polarizing topic, and I understand that. All I'm saying is that he could have (or should have) won a bit more than this. Look at Manchester, champions of England - and - champions of Europe. While we weren't even the best club in our city when we won in Athens. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Other big clubs in recent memory did this too, Madrid and Bayern Munich spring to mind. I agree with you that it's not easy winning, but he had at a time the best XI in the world, and a little more success would not have gone unnoticed. What we have isn't by any means slouch. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'd take the bunch of CL wins and finals, semis, etc any time of the day. Peace out!
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Jul 30 2008, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 30 2008, 08:33 PM)  Coping with all these stars certainly isn't the easiest ob jobs. Well coping is a relative word. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Guys like Paolo, Nesta, Sheva, Kaka, even Rui don't need much coping. They have done and seen it all. It's the second and third tier stuff (Seedorf, Kaladze, Brocchi level people) that need to be managed. Plus the family atmosphere at Milan always helped, and that is one of the reasons for our success at all levels. Does Carlo deserves credit? By goly, he does! But only as much as he deserves. Same goes for anyone else. Saying Ancelotti was the reason of our golden period, well honestly that's stretching it out a bit. Technical brain, yest. But he's terrible with man management, especially with youngsters. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) We'd have had another highly creative mid in Gorcuff if he built his confidence, instead of relegating him in favor of Seedorf, Brocchi, and Emerson. That's bad. No one should be allowed to play with other people's careers. I may sound like I don't like or appreciate what he's done, but the reality is far from it. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Carlo is easily one of the best coaches. Of all time. No matter how much I disagree with his game philosophy.
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Jul 30 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 30 2008, 03:50 PM)  He should have been more careful ... But if, of all people, Carlo gives a reaction like that, it must have been something very harsh that was being thrown at him Who cares? He shouldn't have done that. Period. Cristiano Ronaldo had 65.000 people booing and insulting him in Luz (Benfica stadium) and showed that finger. Not only he was punished by UEFA but even nowadays (that was 3-4 years ago) many, I mean MANY, people hate him and don't respect him in Portugal. People didn't forget that thing and will always be in their memories when the name "Cristiano Ronaldo" appears. Who cares if that 65.000 were insulting his mother, father, dog, etc? It was him, who earn zillions, who gets the best girls around, who plays for the best clubs in the world, who have the best cars, a role-model for thousands of kids in the world... who should be careful. Not the 65.000 people.
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Jul 30 2008, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE (Portikins @ Jul 30 2008, 09:51 PM)  Who cares? He shouldn't have done that. Period.
Cristiano Ronaldo had 65.000 people booing and insulting him in Luz (Benfica stadium) and showed that finger. Not only he was punished by UEFA but even nowadays (that was 3-4 years ago) many, I mean MANY, people hate him and don't respect him in Portugal. People didn't forget that thing and will always be in their memories when the name "Cristiano Ronaldo" appears.
Who cares if that 65.000 were insulting his mother, father, dog, etc? It was him, who earn zillions, who gets the best girls around, who plays for the best clubs in the world, who have the best cars, a role-model for thousands of kids in the world... who should be careful. Not the 65.000 people. Truth. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Besides Carlo isn't a 21 year old kid like Cristiano. A man of his age and stature should have more. I remember Paolo and company being abused by fans during our dark age in the 80s and early 90s. They did nothing of this sorts. And so shouldn't the coach.
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Jul 30 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Portikins @ Jul 30 2008, 03:19 PM)  Ancelotti is a top-coach, a role-model for many young lads, should have been more careful.
As for the fans, it's natural (in 'latin-countries' like Italy, Spain, Portugal this things to happen. We love to insult, provoke, etc. We're nothing like the British, German, etc). Agreed. But I think most countries have insulting chants towards managers. Like Arsenal fans telling Glenn Roeder to "sit down tumor boy" after it had been recently discovered that he had a brain tumor. It gets quite bad really. QUOTE (Acid) Besides Carlo isn't a 21 year old kid like Cristiano. A man of his age and stature should have more. I remember Paolo and company being abused by fans during our dark age in the 80s and early 90s. They did nothing of this sorts. And so shouldn't the coach. Exactly. And this is what annoys me with this club as it prides itself on its class! But Galliani insulting other clubs, or Carlo doing this.. we should make sure our own employees stop giving the club a bad name. Either that or they should get the boot.
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Jul 30 2008, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Portikins @ Jul 30 2008, 07:51 PM)  Who cares? He shouldn't have done that. Period.
Cristiano Ronaldo had 65.000 people booing and insulting him in Luz (Benfica stadium) and showed that finger. Not only he was punished by UEFA but even nowadays (that was 3-4 years ago) many, I mean MANY, people hate him and don't respect him in Portugal. People didn't forget that thing and will always be in their memories when the name "Cristiano Ronaldo" appears.
Who cares if that 65.000 were insulting his mother, father, dog, etc? It was him, who earn zillions, who gets the best girls around, who plays for the best clubs in the world, who have the best cars, a role-model for thousands of kids in the world... who should be careful. Not the 65.000 people. Exactly. Besides, Zambrotta, Mourinho and the Inter players also were treated the same way yet no one reacted the way Carlo did. I can't see how anyone can justify it anyhow when it's common knowledge that it was shameful, period.
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Jul 30 2008, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (Portikins @ Jul 30 2008, 07:51 PM)  Who cares? He shouldn't have done that. Period.
Cristiano Ronaldo had 65.000 people booing and insulting him in Luz (Benfica stadium) and showed that finger. Not only he was punished by UEFA but even nowadays (that was 3-4 years ago) many, I mean MANY, people hate him and don't respect him in Portugal. People didn't forget that thing and will always be in their memories when the name "Cristiano Ronaldo" appears.
Who cares if that 65.000 were insulting his mother, father, dog, etc? It was him, who earn zillions, who gets the best girls around, who plays for the best clubs in the world, who have the best cars, a role-model for thousands of kids in the world... who should be careful. Not the 65.000 people. I didn't say it was an excuse ... I'm saying it must have been something really harsh to provoke someone like Carlo, who really doesn't give into such things ... Was it right or wrong ? It was wrong no questions asked. p.s. CR is a piece of trash ... People like Figo or Rui those were class, those were the men. So no matter what this kid wins, no matter what individual award is won by him he will remain trash! Him back stabbing Rooney at the WC, you could see right there what type of a person he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he did show that finger. The person I'd be surprised at is Carlo !!
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Jul 30 2008, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 30 2008, 06:50 PM)  I didn't say it was an excuse ... I'm saying it must have been something really harsh to provoke someone like Carlo, who really doesn't give into such things ... Was it right or wrong ? It was wrong no questions asked.
p.s. CR is a piece of trash ... People like Figo or Rui those were class, those were the men. So no matter what this kid wins, no matter what individual award is won by him he will remain trash! Him back stabbing Rooney at the WC, you could see right there what type of a person he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he did show that finger. The person I'd be surprised at is Carlo !! Figo only thinks about money. He's no example, though he's a gentleman. Rui, Vitor Baia, Paulo Sousa, Futre, etc were class. But Rooney is no example too. No player in Man Utd is an example to anybody. Just a bunch of arrogant pric...
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