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post Jul 22 2008, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 22 2008, 05:24 PM) *
I think you're being unfair towards him he had a good first season with us yes he never really was what we expected of him but in Milan's history we've had much worse players then he was. We still have those :cough: Brocchi :cough: We've had guys like Jose Mari who was marketed as the next big thing and brought in as a major move and failed to hit double figures during his time at Milan.

He's gone now and I don't think he desrves to be put down anymore then he already was when he was at Milan.


I just dont like that kind of players who plays for one of the best teams in the world and really has no technique whatsoever. Then tries to cover it up with blaming the rest.

Pippo is the same you might say , he is actually. But the guy has instinct and saved our @sses a lot of times before. Plus he doesnt mind sitting on the bench.

Thats why Im so glad we bought Ronaldinho. He is a player who can make a difference on his own. And I believe we should have a player like that on each position , one who can make a difference. Defence , midfield & striker wise. If a player cant , he's useless. So was Gilardino.

For me every player playing for a top team should master the basic football skills.
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post Jul 22 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Jul 22 2008, 04:44 PM) *
I just dont like that kind of players who plays for one of the best teams in the world and really has no technique whatsoever. Then tries to cover it up with blaming the rest.

Pippo is the same you might say , he is actually. But the guy has instinct and saved our @sses a lot of times before. Plus he doesnt mind sitting on the bench.

Thats why Im so glad we bought Ronaldinho. He is a player who can make a difference on his own. And I believe we should have a player like that on each position , one who can make a difference. Defence , midfield & striker wise. If a player cant , he's useless. So was Gilardino.

For me every player playing for a top team should master the basic football skills.

I don't think he ever blamed anyone for his inability to score goals, he's never pointed fingers at anyone and he never complained about being benched for a huge portion of last season. And yes he's not a Maradona on the ball but he's not really what you're making him out to be, I was watching all the goals scored from the 05/06 season when he played next to Sheva and he clearly showed that he had tachnique. And especially good awareness of his team mate's movements.

I think after that season maybe he lost a lot of confidenece when the goals weren't coming (when the whole team really was struggling to perform) and he never recovered.

Yes he was a dissappointment especiacially in the finsl 2 seasons and he was not what we expected to be.

Ronaldinho is a player that you simply cannot compare to the Italian-in-box striker, and that's what Gila was, Ronaldinho is on a totally diferent level so it's unfair to compare the 2 together.

As for people who make the difference on the team, right now we don't have that, we have Kaladze in defence who more often then not creates the problems rather then making a difference, Dida who is another liabilty to the team, which should be the case for all the GKs really since they are all known for making terrible blunders. And Seedorf who only decides to play when he feels like it, but makes a big scene is he's subbed out of a game.

So as you can see it's not a vintage Milan that we have right now. I admit that Gila disappointed and imo could have done much better at Milan, I just don't agree with the fact that he was continuosly used as a scapegote for Milan's shortcomings when in reality there are many different reasons why this happened

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post Jul 22 2008, 08:01 PM
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You hit the nail right on the head, han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) Excellent post.

Gila is history now, so let's leave him at that. Could have been much bigger, would have been, but it didn't turn out the way we all wanted. Like they say, maybe the red and black jersey was too much for him to handle? Maybe it was our playing style? In the end, best of luck to him in his new job at Fiorentina. We have our new-look team to look forward to, including how R80 (huh?) fares in his new home.
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 22 2008, 07:01 PM) *
You hit the nail right on the head, han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) Excellent post.

Gila is history now, so let's leave him at that. Could have been much bigger, would have been, but it didn't turn out the way we all wanted. Like they say, maybe the red and black jersey was too much for him to handle? Maybe it was our playing style? In the end, best of luck to him in his new job at Fiorentina. We have our new-look team to look forward to, including how R80 (huh?) fares in his new home.

Very true
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:34 PM
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Nice post han!
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post Jul 22 2008, 09:57 PM
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btw han i am with 99% i am not with u 1% because the 06-07 season gila blamed pipo for his abilaty ofnot scoring and he said some thing else but i just cant remember wht it was but other then that i am with u 99%
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post Jul 23 2008, 07:04 AM
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Gila never had the mentality for the big stage. Sheva and Pippo both went through tough times along with Milan, but they were never whiny little 2 year olds who do nothing game in game out CONSISTENTLY.
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post Jul 23 2008, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Jul 22 2008, 09:57 PM) *
btw han i am with 99% i am not with u 1% because the 06-07 season gila blamed pipo for his abilaty ofnot scoring and he said some thing else but i just cant remember wht it was but other then that i am with u 99%

He never blamed Pippo, he just pointed out that it was difficuilt to play with Pippo because they were so similar in how they moved on the pitch. Which I think everyone agrees over. Maybe it made him look whiney for making this comment. But I think it was a frustrating time for everyone during that season, not just Gila.

@ Max, I do agree with you when you say that Gila doesn't have the mantality to play for a club as big as Milan. But I don't think the term whined like a 2 year old is really what he did during his last 2 seasons.

He never really complained when he was being benched (with good reason from Carlo) the only time he ever really complained (if you want to call it that) is when we played 4-3-1-2 and he and Pippo were played together upfront with Gila being asked to perform the role of a supporting forward.

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post Jul 23 2008, 10:44 AM
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http://media2.acmilan.com/200807/10999_big.jpg?ver=1
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post Jul 23 2008, 01:03 PM
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post Jul 23 2008, 01:15 PM
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Look at his shoes.Look at his head band. He's all unblinged and un-sponsored. And this was in what...a week? I told you that his going gangsta was the least of my worries.

Ronnie (yes I'm gonna call R80((IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) ) that) is a good guy. Just a little misguided.

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post Jul 24 2008, 03:46 AM
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PATO AND DINHO, photos with Olympic

Brazil has landed in Asia: Seleçao did stop over in Singapore, but will reach the Beijing Olympic headquarters in the coming days. Star of the day obviously was Ronaldinho Gaucho, who was in the form smiling and much celebrated by the local population. Applause also for the other star of Milan, the young Alexandre Pato, one of the youngest players Tournament. Here are the photos Up reported by Brazilian media.

Click here!
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post Jul 24 2008, 02:02 PM
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he looks quite fit
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post Jul 24 2008, 02:54 PM
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It's good for us that Ronaldinho and Pato will learn some things about playing together before the season starts! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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