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 SUN, 30 MAR, 2008 - Serie A - AC Milan vs. Atalanta, and Now Atalanta ! |
 Mar 31 2008, 05:34 AM
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Berretti  Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736  |
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Agh, awful awful awful performance. Awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, AWFUL. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I'll post my detailed comments later. |
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Mar 31 2008, 06:43 AM
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Pulcini 97 Group: Full Members Posts: 101 Joined: 16-August 06 From: Nairobi, Kenya Member No.: 2,324 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 31 2008, 04:28 AM) I was talking about how carlo acts as a coach, not the logical choice. Gourcuff won't be given time under carlo no matter how you go about the situation. Not this season, and not next season. And yes under carlo seedorf and kaka will play as long as possible.  Even though i dont like your opinion, i think you are very right. |
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Mar 31 2008, 06:54 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 31 2008, 04:34 AM) I'll post my detailed comments later. There's not much need. I'm sure what you already said sums it up prefectly. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (Great pic, by the way. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 31 2008, 04:34 AM) Agh, awful awful awful performance. Awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, AWFUL. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Mar 31 2008, 06:55 AM
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Pulcini 97 Group: Full Members Posts: 101 Joined: 16-August 06 From: Nairobi, Kenya Member No.: 2,324 |
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 30 2008, 11:28 PM) I did not comment on Gourcuff's quality. I'm just asking you a simple question and I'd like to have a simple answer: Do you think Brocchi and Emerson are better than Gourcuff? Yes, No, I don't know, just tell what you think. When you're on a downfall, you have to go down to come up again... UEFA Cup would surely change some thing at Via Turati... CL I'm not quite sure! We needed changes a couple of seasons ago it was plain for all to see but the management did nothing coz we were in CL. If we do qualify (am highly doubtful) this season, be sure that the management will do nothing..Galiani would say something like.."who said our players are old? this is a great team that achieves its objectives, we don't need any changes.." By the way, i think Gourcuff is better than Brocchi+Emerson, Carlo doesn't know how to get the best out of him, just like he failed to get the best out of Henry in Juventus..! any objections??? |
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Mar 31 2008, 07:32 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 31 2008, 10:54 AM) (Great pic, by the way.) Lol. The way we're playing, yes, it quite suits it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) LLWL, 2-1, 2-1, rinse and repeat if necessary. We're lucky Fiorentina lost, today. One more performance like this against either Cagliari or Juve, and that'll be that. UEFA Cup here we come! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 09:07 AM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 4,291 Joined: 1-July 05 From: London Member No.: 1 |
Why are we even trying to compare our DMs with Gourcuff? I agree with Tennie's assessment though - Brocchi and Emerson provide more reliability, Gourcuff has shown glipses of possessing more footballing talent in terms of creating things etc.
Either way, I very much doubt that if Gourcuff had started this game the result would have been drastically different. |
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Mar 31 2008, 09:52 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay  Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
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+1. Because given their respective duties....Emerson and Brocchi carry it on much better than Gourcuff. |
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Mar 31 2008, 10:22 AM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (mkenya @ Mar 31 2008, 09:25 AM) We needed changes a couple of seasons ago it was plain for all to see but the management did nothing coz we were in CL. If we do qualify (am highly doubtful) this season, be sure that the management will do nothing..Galiani would say something like.."who said our players are old? this is a great team that achieves its objectives, we don't need any changes.." To say the least, that's why I think going to UEFA cup will only do good to Milan in the long run. we all saw how ending up in the CL led to world class signings this season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 10:36 AM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:34 AM) (IMG:http://i30.tinypic.com/2dcg0b5.jpg) Agh, awful awful awful performance. Awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, AWFUL. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I'll post my detailed comments later. How many of these polar bear pics do you have? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE ^^^ +1. Because given their respective duties....Emerson and Brocchi carry it on much better than Gourcuff. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 10:46 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Of course Gourcuff wouldn't have done anything different than the rest of the team... We're talking long term. Anyways, let's forget it and move on. Our problem right now has become much deeper and bigger than Gourcuff.
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Mar 31 2008, 11:01 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
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Mar 31 2008, 12:27 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
WHAT A DISCUSSION!
Atalanta thread completely hijacked. But let's go further on and make some comments,.. QUOTE we will do a Bayern next season if we get UEFA Cup I allready explained why we won't be able to apply their strategy. It's simple Serie A teams>Bundesliga teams. We cannot offer to the players, players like Ribery, Ze Roberto, Klose, Toni or Borowski, the same Bayern did. QUOTE To say the least, that's why I think going to UEFA cup will only do good to Milan in the long run. we all saw how ending up in the CL led to world class signings this season Wrong logic. Our board is stubborn and not flawless, but they are not imbeciles. They have certain ambitions - and it's evident that finishing barely 4th and being knocked-out from CL in phase 2 is a failiure. We don't need to reach the bottom to be back again next season on our feets. Not neccessary. QUOTE Why are we even trying to compare our DMs with Gourcuff? I agree with Tennie's assessment though - Brocchi and Emerson provide more reliability, Gourcuff has shown glipses of possessing more footballing talent in terms of creating things etc. I do totally agree with Tennie and La Palma on this one. Being a Bundesliga fan for quite some time I must note that Emerson played well there, showed much talent, made assists, scored and did not exactly play a strict DM. It's Don Fabio who spoiled him and made him do the awfull job. This season, after a misfortune in Real and some injury problems, he's unrecognizable compared to the Leverkusen days. But this guy deserves certainly a chance and extra time, cause he's valuable and proved his ability. Brocchi? What to say. He's either a disaster or good. He can shoot, run, and his pass is more reliable the Yo's. While Gourcuff's basic passing skills are better, his attitude is different and he tends to complicate and eventually makes wrong passes. His crosses are way to strong. QUOTE By the way, i think Gourcuff is better than Brocchi+Emerson, Carlo doesn't know how to get the best out of him, just like he failed to get the best out of Henry in Juventus..! any objections??? Well, that's just a mean comment and not comparable situation. Any objections? Well, a few of them - for example, it was Carlo Ancelotti who gave Henry the chance and a starting player status. He played at first bad, but managed to overcome this and started scoring. Then Luciano Moggi stepped in. But here you are; QUOTE 10/01/2008 01:18 Henry: Moggi Disrespect Forced Me To Leave Juve Barcelona striker Thierry Henry has sensationally slammed Luciano Moggi, blaming him for his departure from Juventus. The French international left Juventus for Arsenal in 1999 after failing to settle in completely, and blamed the former Juventus director for his exit. "When I came to Juve I had a problem with my back. However, I wanted to play at once," Henry began, speaking to Sky Italia. "When [Carlo] Ancelotti became manager I began to play all the games. At the start, there was not much to shout about, but after the game against Roma, I began to score and to turn in assists. "Then something happened with Moggi which I didn't like - I don't want to go into the details. "My character came out because I am an honest lad and, for me, it was a case of disrespect. "If that hadn't happened, I would probably have continued to play for Juventus. But after this lack of respect I told them I didn't want to play there anymore and so I left." The striker also dropped a hint that he was not as comfortable at Barcelona as he would probably have hoped, praising his Arsenal days. "It doesn't matter how things work out with my new club," he added. "I will never find the same affection that I was shown at Arsenal, partly because I think I will never play for another squad for eight years - my legs won't let me. "To play for Arsenal for eight years, winning or losing at Highbury, the joy, the sadness, everything was simply incredible. "You often return to the place that you belong and, therefore, I hope one day to be able to work with the club. "I have the club in my blood - I always follow Arsenal when they play and I'm happy when they win. "I'm proud to have played for Arsenal and to be a fan. Before I didn't support any club, but now I'm an Arsenal fan and it's difficult for me to not follow the matches." That said, it will be his comments about the much-maligned Moggi that will hit the headlines. Still convinced Ancelotti did wrong with Henry? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Please, leave the man alone till season end, or at least try not to use past events to explain the present. This post has been edited by Fillipo Simone: Mar 31 2008, 12:34 PM |
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Mar 31 2008, 12:37 PM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 31 2008, 04:57 PM) WHAT A DISCUSSION! Atalanta thread completely hijacked. But let's go further on and make some comments,.. Remember the name!!Who da man?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 31 2008, 04:57 PM) I allready explained why we won't be able to apply their strategy. It's simple Serie A teams>Bundesliga teams. We cannot offer to the players, players like Ribery, Ze Roberto, Klose, Toni or Borowski, the same Bayern did.  Wrong logic. Our board is stubborn and not flawless, but they are not imbeciles. They have certain ambitions - and it's evident that finishing barely 4th and being knocked-out from CL in phase 2 is a failiure. We don't need to reach the bottom to be back again next season on our feets. Not neccessary. I do totally agree with Tennie and La Palma on this one. Being a Bundesliga fan for quite some time I must note that Emerson played well there, showed much talent, made assists, scored and did not exactly play a strict DM. It's Don Fabio who spoiled him and made him do the awfull job. This season, after a misfortune in Real and some injury problems, he's unrecognizable compared to the Leverkusen days. But this guy deserves certainly a chance and extra time, cause he's valuable and proved his ability. Brocchi? What to say. He's either a disaster or good. He can shoot, run, and his pass is more reliable the Yo's. While Gourcuff's basic passing skills are better, his attitude is different and he tends to complicate and eventually makes wrong passes. His crosses are way to strong. Well, that's just a mean comment and not comparable situation. Any objections? Well, a few of them - for example, it was Carlo Ancelotti who gave Henry the chance and a starting player status. He played at first bad, but managed to overcome this and started scoring. Then Luciano Moggi stepped in. But here you are; Still convinced Ancelotti did wrong with Henry? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Please, leave the man alone till season end, or at least try not to use past events to explain the present. I still think he's being crucified too harshly for his first failure in 7 years at the club. If you want , I think it's fair to put him on probation. Like next season. Given the team, Carlo has always delivered. Like last season... pre and post Ronaldo. This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Mar 31 2008, 12:40 PM |
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Mar 31 2008, 12:47 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE San Siro shame This is Milan’s worst home record since the campaign of their relegation in 1981-82, when in their first 15 games at the Stadio Meazza they managed six draws and five defeats. The current side isn’t quite there yet, but have won four and lost just as many split by seven stalemates. To think that in 2005-06 they had won 18 of their 19 home matches! Damn it! I hope they realize which team they're playing for starting this weekend! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 12:47 PM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Helpers Posts: 464 Joined: 18-September 05 From: Milano Member No.: 463 |
I don't trust the board on signing good players. We haven't won the UEFA Cup so let's do it next season. I believe that right now it's difficult to say how the board would react on various scenarios, however change is needed. Wheter this means to fire ancelotti or replace some players I will leave unsaid but this is not a good tactic, Udinese is coming from behind and they don't have anything to lose. Meanwhile Maldini is upset with the crowd, but that works 2 ways, the crowd should support the team but it shouldn't be used as an excuse by the players.
Many Milanisti on San Siro are getting sick of this, and I recall that there was a steward that was screaming instead of watching the stands. This post has been edited by Brian Birkin: Mar 31 2008, 03:43 PM |
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