ya ur one to talk, u weren't even around when we were losing but then when we won... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Get your facts straight pal.

Trust me , i was active , just not here .

If you think I didnt post cause we were losing ,think again . I was here when this site was created and we didnt won anything untill last may.

again , get your facts straight.

well active... whats the point of coming on if ur not going to post. anyways... who cares everyone has their opinion, like nov. no home wins... what do you expect everyone to be jumping around, forza milan this and forza milan that. Just cuz we arent all cheerful doesnt mean we dont support the team. to have that view is intolerant. and just cuz some have been on the forum what 1 or 2 years mroe than others doesnt make them more of a fan, you know there a world outside milan fan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Nov 6 2007, 12:08 AM

Hi! This is the Shakhtar-Milan match thread! In between the bickering (and yes, I know I'm as bad as anyone else this time) I'd like to discuss the match. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Given what Carletto said in his press conference (link), I'm going to guess that the lineup will look something like this:

Dida
Oddo Nesta Kaladze/Maldini Kaladze/Serginho
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka Seedorf
Gilardino
(if Carletto is feeling conservative against a very physical team away)

OR something like this:

Dida
Oddo Nesta Maldini/Kaladze Kaladze/Serginho
Gattuso Pirlo Seedorf
Kaka
Gilardino Ronaldo
(if Carletto is feeling a little adventurous and if Ronnie is somewhere approaching match fit)

I don't think this will be an easy game. Shakhtar are no pushovers and they're very strong at home. I'd prefer a win but I'd be perfectly happy with a draw.

That my business if I post or not.

Im not even going to comment on the "who is more of a milanfan" issue.

Just dont expect me to just sit here and watch how you keep bashing our team & management .

theres that word, "bashing"

Bash: To criticize (another) harshly, accusatorially, and threateningly: "He bashed the . . . government unmercifully over the . . . spy affair" (Lally Weymouth).

hmm lemme see, if pointing out certain flaws, different ways too improve the team is considred bashing then i'm guilty, or maybe your just overly sensitive. after all who was right when some of us saw this coming? i mean it's just great using such strong term freely especially when it's completely unjustified.

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Nov 6 2007, 12:31 AM

Seems like Ronaldo has a lot of desire to play. He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone, but he could easily get injured again, which is not reassuring.

And on Gila, I think he is a bit tired. He has been playing a lot lately and he has a tendency to disappear toward the end of every game. I still think Gila - Ronnie can be very useful but the real satisfaction will come after January with Pato and Ronnie playing together. They'll help us tear down defenses especially when you consider we don't have the fastest full backs in the world.

For this game, I want a win, of course. Doesn't matter how long Ronnie plays, as long as he gets more match fit and doesn't get injured. But I wouldn't be surprised to see a moment of brilliant magic.

My guess is Gila will start and Ronaldo will be brought on with 30 minutes left... but who knows, maybe R9 from the start (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

training photos


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Goddaaaang...look at Pippo in the pic.Now that's determination. And I swear I thought Cafu was dancing in the third one.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Clarence does run slower than everyone else and he does look like a turtle. And Paolo looks like well...god. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

This post has been edited by Jack Sparrow: Nov 6 2007, 04:35 AM

Horsepuckey. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

haha, seedorf looks like a hustler.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Thou doest wound me so!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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If he really means it, expect a tough game for us.

Shakhtar Boss: We'll Defend Hard Against Milan

Shakhtar Donestk coach Mircea Lucescu has warned fans not to expect any repeat of the 4-1 thriller at the San Siro as his side prepare to welcome AC Milan to Ukraine...

Shakhtar coach Mircea Lucescu has informed AC Milan that his side will defend heavily for the visit of the Italian giants.

"From the outset, we'll be much more careful than we were there," he said.

"We will not attempt to replicate Celtic's approach against the Italians."

Celtic won 2-1 against the Italian cracks at Parkhead, of course, but Lucescu has not promised a similar result for the Shakhtar faithful.

"Both teams will play for victory, but if it's a draw I suppose both sides will be satisfied," he mused.

"We were criticised for not playing defensively in Milan but even at 2-0 down, we tried to show what we've got.

"We're in for a very tough match, but it will be tough for Milan too."

"We never give in. No matter how many players are left – ten, even nine – this team will battle to the last," he added, saluting his troops for their ten-man, 1-0 league win in the weekend derby.

As part of his new defensive philosophy, the former Besiktas coach has told his players to tighten up at dead ball situations.

"The most important thing is for us to avoid conceding goals from free-kicks and corners; I can remember a famous Andrés Palop goal from a corner which stole a victory against Sevilla from us," he bitterly recalled, reflecting on his team's recent UEFA Cup defeat.

Shakhtar sit joint top of Group D with Milan, having six points from a possible nine.

The fish woobie wants to know if this means he has a chance, then. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I just checked the Gazzetta online edition and they don't seem to have a guess at probable lineups.

Goal is predicting the following lineup: Dida; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Maldini; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kakà, Seedorf; Gilardino

I suspect they may be mostly right, though it may be Pippo instead of Gila. Much as I'd like to see a 4-3-1-2, I think it'll stay a Christmas Tree formation, with Ronaldo coming on partway through the second half.