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Fillipo Simone
Let's hope Roma will too.

But honestly, what can we expect other then failure if we keep on playing like this? I think some players need to be benched: call it resting or sending a message, I don't really care.
X-Offender
There's little to salvage at this point. We'll just have to scrape as many points as possible in the few remaining games and somehow hope they'll be enough to grant us CL football next season. If that happens, I foresee a small revolution in the summer, with Gattuso and a few important players leaving.

If we fail to qualify, then we're royally f*cked.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 20 2019, 06:08 PM) *
No, Gattuso.


Okay, but who are responsible for keeping Gattuso on as coach? Leonardo and Maldini right? Or does that work only when Galliani is in charge?
Fillipo Simone
Yes, they are responsible. I think they were sentimental and didn't have the heat to sack Rino after he coached us through a fair post-Montella period. If it wasn't Ringo but someone else (no Milan legend), he would have probably been gone.
Danny
My brief return to interest in this club has been doused again in recent weeks.

It really is a mickey mouse operation. I didn't watch yesterday and I'm rather glad.
Danny
LAWL at Man Utd. Sure, we're not ones to talk, but hey, may as well laugh.

Knew as soon as Solskjaer got the job permanently the form would swandive. They've lost 6 in the last 8 now which is even worse than us. A lot worse.

Those players are pretty odious. They get in someone who isn't Jose so they bust a gut under him to make sure the nice guy gets the job, and as soon as he does they down tools and go back to the old way.

What a horrible club they are!
Rossoneri7
Less than 20 minutes to the 2nd leg of the coppa italia semifinal against Lazio.

I am hopeful
William405
Okay, I finally agree with you guys. Gattuso needs to leave.
Fillipo Simone
Hope? Of course we'll lose. Big match - Milan loses.
William405
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 24 2019, 11:31 PM) *
Hope? Of course we'll lose. Big match - Milan loses.


Our only hope is to qualify for the Champions leauge. Then, we'll have more cashflow at least. Otherwise, we'll just have to settle being a midtable club.
Fillipo Simone
Here is a preview of what Milan under Gattuso looks like in big games:

Milan - Lazio 2:1
Milan - Roma 2:0

Juventus - Milan 3:1
Milan - Inter 0:0
Milan - Napoli 0:0
Milan - Inter 1:0 (e.t.)
Milan - Lazio 0:0
Lazio - Milan 0:0 (win on penalties)
Juventus - Milan 4:0

Milan - Napoli 2:3
Milan - Roma 2:1
Inter - Milan 1:0
Milan - Juventus 0:2
Lazio - Milan 1:1
Napoli - Milan 0:0
Roma - Milan 1:1
Milan - Inter 2:3
Juventus - Milan 2:1
Milan - Lazio 1:0
Juventus - Milan 1:0
Milan - Napoli 2:0
Milan - Lazio 0:0
Lazio - Milan 1:0

That's 7 wins (1 on penalties) in 23 games. 1 win in 4 games against Inter. Two finals lost with zero goals scored.

Today we went out with 2 shots on target and a staggering 4 total shots. Yes, our team isn't good enough. But that's not all.
X-Offender
The team clearly isn’t following Gattuso. He’s out of ideas, and can’t motivate the players anymore. But the problem is that we’re at a very important point in our season, and the players must bring out their 100%, which they clearly aren’t doing. So, rather than Gattuso I would blame them foremost.
Danny
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 24 2019, 11:54 PM) *
The team clearly isn’t following Gattuso. He’s out of ideas, and can’t motivate the players anymore. But the problem is that we’re at a very important point in our season, and the players must bring out their 100%, which they clearly aren’t doing. So, rather than Gattuso I would blame them foremost.


Sounds just like Man Utd.
Fillipo Simone
There's a difference. With Man Utd you have at least players like Pogba, Lukaku, de Gea who are proven champions - and clearly underperform.

With Milan you don't have a single player bar Rodriguez who has had 2 or 3 stable good seasons with his clubs prior Milan.

The big difference is however that this team needs leadership and guidance. It's the youngest Milan ever and the youngest starting XI in Serie A. If Gattuso lost the team the situation is dire.

But X-O I understand your position - yet our main goal is to secure CL. Now I don't know about you but I'm in panic mode right now. If Milan doesn't win and look considerably better come Sunday and Torino, we have to do something. Since we cannot change our players, the best thing IMO would be to sack Gattuso and bring in a fireman who could try bring some positive effect in the team and shake up things temporarily.

Look at how the change from Inzaghi to Mihajlovic resulted instant (and temporary) change. Sure, this is low-table survival tactics, but CL is crucial. We gotta do all we can to achieve that. And Milan under Gattuso looks completely dead right now - that's how many now awful games in a row?
X-Offender
But that’s the point. Gattuso for me will be gone after the season ends, regardless of whether we finish 4th or not, and the players know that too. But rather than Gattuso’s future what’s at stake here is our future, the club’s. So, shouldn’t the players rise to the occasion and give their all for this common objective? Yet they play like they don’t even care anymore. And that’s unacceptable.
Fillipo Simone
Well I’m not sure its clear Gattuso is gone if we reach 4th. And to expect these bunch of kids to play without a leader to be motivated is probably too much. If this is true and it became apparent that Gattuso is gone no matter what, we really need an interim coach.
Danny
I mean Milan Gattusso and Utd Solskjaer. Not the players.
Rossoneri7
Waiting for those to call out Maldini and Leonardo for desicions they make in terms of coaches and/or players.
Fillipo Simone
Almost none of the players were there decision, so it won't happen. At fault are Fassone and Mirabelli who splashed much money into nothing.

Also, keeping Rino was fair choice back then - even if it was mostly for sentimental reasons. But now he must go.
X-Offender
Leonardo and Maldini are the only ones not at fault here.
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 26 2019, 09:34 AM) *
Almost none of the players were there decision, so it won't happen. At fault are Fassone and Mirabelli who splashed much money into nothing.

Also, keeping Rino was fair choice back then -


Was it? We already failed with a tonne of our ex-players as manager. After we lucked out on Sacchi who turned out to be an incredible manager for us after a modest at best football career (obviously not with us), then lucked out again with Ancelotti, we've had an obsession with trying to luck out with our own players - it's not worked once.

It's not come close to it. It's been an embarrassment every time.

It wasn't a fair choice - it was another terrible one - as I said before his appointment and emphasised in recent months, this guy failed at Sion and Crete before doing ok with our kids. This is NOT Milan manager material, even if we like the man. Look at all the duds since Allegri (he wasn't a dud, sorry Han, he's the best manager we've had aside Ancelotti and Capello since Sacchi) - all the ex-players we've hoped to luck out on.

Unfortunately we don't have the money to afford the kind of manager we need to be where we want to be. And we're miles off being attractive enough to bring him in even if we did have the cash.

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even if it was mostly for sentimental reasons. But now he must go.


New manager isn't going to make the terrible squad we continue to have suddenly become Liverpool.

The best example I have is indeed the Scousers - they brought in a world class manager, but it's taken Klopp four years to build one of the best clubs in Europe - and a LOT of money.

Now they're reaping the rewards - they've become a stunningly good team, with the world's best defender, and he even took an above average Roma Salah and turned him into one of the best strikers in the world. They are now, this season, an attractive club who can now lure the world's best players.

But that took half a decade (or 30 years if you look at the last time they won the title). It took patience - but appointing a superb manager was the starting point.

What have we done since Allegri? Wasted cash on absolute cr*p and appointed pathetic managers.

We've shown no ambition and made a hundred errors in every area of recruitment.

We've basically thrown dice and hoped for the best, rather than actually planning, strategically, how to achieve that.

And as long as we keep on promoting the next mediocre coach from the primavera or bring in some greek coach Bathinaikos who lie 5th in Olympic Division that is how it'll stay.

It's horrible how Milan are 'run' now.
Fillipo Simone
Obviously names like Mourinho, Klopp or Ancelotti won't sign for Milan. So we gotta settle for other options. Seedorf worked IMO and should have got a better chance, Inzaghi wasn't good. Mihajlovic and Montella were not as bad as one might think. That being sad, I don't think it's particularly necessary to re-examine the whole pallette of coaches we had prior to Rino. Bad management + bad players choices/signings + inexperienced coaches - what's there to expect? And this especially for Mirabelli and Fassone who in the end resulted, very unsurprisingly, with a disaster of their own.

The mistake Leo and Paolo made is simple: they should have gone for Carletto all the way. I'm positive Ancelotti would have signed for Milan this summer if we tried convincingly to sign him and also offered Rino his old position or some back room position. But well - we wanted to be fair and give a chance to the man who made the best out of a messy season.

But no more memory lane. Bringing in Liverpool now to the discussion brings little because there's little comparative material. Our survival depends on reaching 4th spot. Take a look at what happens in Germany for example - interim coaches and fireman managers at Schalke, Stuttgart, etc. shake up teams and bring them to success with new motivational impulses. Same happens in Serie A with Bologna under Mihajlovic. Hell, same happened when Cesare Maldini replaced Zaccheroni at Milan. So I really think that if Milan is unable to strike a deal with say Conte, we have to let go of Rino and bring in a fireman. At least that way we're trying to do something other then slowly watching this team and all hope die a slow death.

But well, perhaps we'll win Torino today ... and well ...
han2503
Honestly cannot take watching this team anymore

I've been a staunch supporter of Rino but this is beyond bad. He needs to go, today before tomorrow

We've been in 4th place since October or November and we've f@cked it up in the span of a month with just a single victory since the derby loss

Leo and Paolo will find it difficult to do, but enough is enough, we need to make a change to try to save our season at this point
han2503
Also, these players...

There are just no words to describe how stupid I think they are in terms of footballing IQ. Paqueta is the only one that makes smart passing decisions, and most of the time no one is on the same wavelength as him

Kessie is as dumb as a f@cking post. Suso goes out of his way to slow down the play to crawling pace, Rodriguez spends more time running and passing towards our goal than he does towards the opponent's goal. Hakan tries and tries but nothing comes off, Conti looks like he should be playing in a Sunday league at this point.

Honeslty, I just can't take watching this anymore. Seeing players who are getting paid millions being unable to make a single smart passing decision during the entirety of a game is just too f@cking much
Fillipo Simone
I told you, Rino has to go.

Well most of the problems come down to bad transfer decisions. Kessie is one of the stupidest football players I've ever seen play in constant first team football. He's pretty much useless in modern football so we should sell him ASAP.

Suso is a joke. Just like a few other Milan players who are simply unworthy of wearing our shirt. But it all comes down to the terrible decisions Fassone and Mirabelli made. Splashing money on Bonucci, signing overhyped players like Conti and Kessie, bringing in German rejects like Hakan and Rodriguez... not a single good decision.
Fillipo Simone
And the captain adds some flavor to this disaster. Thanks guys, you're really something else...
X-Offender
I think our players are simply unworthy. Save for 4-5 names, our roster is full of garbage. People like Conti, Rodriguez, Kessie and Calhanoglu are absolutely appalling to watch. Add to all that an incapable coach like Gattuso and you've got a recipe for disaster. You just don't deserve to go the CL.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 28 2019, 09:10 PM) *
I told you, Rino has to go.

Well most of the problems come down to bad transfer decisions. Kessie is one of the stupidest football players I've ever seen play in constant first team football. He's pretty much useless in modern football so we should sell him ASAP.

Suso is a joke. Just like a few other Milan players who are simply unworthy of wearing our shirt. But it all comes down to the terrible decisions Fassone and Mirabelli made. Splashing money on Bonucci, signing overhyped players like Conti and Kessie, bringing in German rejects like Hakan and Rodriguez... not a single good decision.

Up until a month and a half ago things were still going well and we were playing relatively good. It's just been a complete nose dive since the Inter game and it's spiraled to the point where Rino has to go now, not at the end of the season, not next week but today if possible.

And it pains me to say this because this is another legend that was brought in with no experience and no knowledge as to how to take this team to the next level. But up to the Inter game he had steered the ship well imo. Thatbeing said, you can clearly see now that he's gone completely off the deep end and has zero clue as to how to right the course. He's out of ideas and his substitutions today continued to solidify that.

Kessie, is the most frustrating player I've seen in a while. I'm sorry to say this but he's an idiot simple as that really. Every pass he makes I just slap my hands to my head and go "WTF! Why??"

Fassone and Mirabelli f@cked us over no doubt about that, but I just don't understand how the team that was playing so well in December and January could turn to this. Just unbelievable how things have completely spiraled out of control. And I think a good few players have played themselves out of the club this week. Between the performance in the Coppa semi and today it's just abhorrently bad stuff.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 28 2019, 09:12 PM) *
And the captain adds some flavor to this disaster. Thanks guys, you're really something else...

I understand his frustration.

Look today is completely on us. But the refereeing has been going against us all season, with blatantly bad calls that have harmed us more than once this season

Add to that the Bakayoko fiasco with Acerbi's shirt and then the racist chants plus the giant banana being waved at him on Wednesday against Lazio when the game should have been called off by the referee but was allowed to continue, and things are bound to boil over

The majority of Romagnoli's yellow cards this season have come from him talking to the referees, this when he is the captain and has the right to do so, and yet refs still card him for doing so.

We've been f@cked over by refs in countless games this season, our players were investigated and fined by the league for holding up an opponent's shirt in jest while Lazio's fans hurled racist abuse at our players and that fascist club of their's was allowed to get off scott free with not even a single word coming from the league to even acknowledge that such disgusting behavior took place. Not once but twice

So I can understand how a player like Romagnoli can lose it. I've comepletely lost it too with this disgrace of a league and country we play in

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 28 2019, 09:41 PM) *
I think our players are simply unworthy. Save for 4-5 names, our roster is full of garbage. People like Conti, Rodriguez, Kessie and Calhanoglu are absolutely appalling to watch. Add to all that an incapable coach like Gattuso and you've got a recipe for disaster. You just don't deserve to go the CL.

Agreed

The players have disgraced themselves and this jersey this past month. They're all a bunch of unworthy knuckle heads

Honestly, from the starting 11 today, I'd only want to keep Romagnoli, Bakayoko, Donna (didn't have a good game either but oh well), Paqueta, Cutrone and Hakan as a rotation guy, the rest can f off at this point
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 28 2019, 10:31 PM) *
Fassone and Mirabelli f@cked us over no doubt about that, but I just don't understand how the team that was playing so well in December and January could turn to this. Just unbelievable how things have completely spiraled out of control. And I think a good few players have played themselves out of the club this week. Between the performance in the Coppa semi and today it's just abhorrently bad stuff.


Honestly, we weren't really playing that great. Except for the Atalanta game, which I think has been our best showing this season, all other games were just us huffing and puffing to get the bare minimum.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 28 2019, 10:31 PM) *
Agreed

The players have disgraced themselves and this jersey this past month. They're all a bunch of unworthy knuckle heads

Honestly, from the starting 11 today, I'd only want to keep Romagnoli, Bakayoko, Donna (didn't have a good game either but oh well), Paqueta, Cutrone and Hakan as a rotation guy, the rest can f off at this point


Cutrone is an excuse of a striker. He's be great for a team like Genoa, but for a team with CL ambitions? Not even worthy of a bench warmer. I admire his grit and passion, but he's just very poor.
Danny
Blame me. It was all good till I came back. I truly am a jinx.
Fillipo Simone
So... Milan will stick with Gattuso until summer. Then we part ways. What a stupid decision!!!
Rossoneri7
Galliani's doing!
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 29 2019, 11:05 AM) *
What a stupid decision!!!


Since 2012 it's the only kind we've made.
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 28 2019, 12:19 PM) *
Obviously names like Mourinho, Klopp or Ancelotti won't sign for Milan. So we gotta settle for other options. Seedorf worked IMO and should have got a better chance,


Too arrogant - had a nice idea in high pressing but it worked the players too hard and it couldn't be maintained. But expected everyone around him to fall all over his ideas and too stubborn to change.

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Inzaghi wasn't good.


Understatement. He was painful.

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Mihajlovic and Montella were not as bad as one might think.


Miha was mediocre, but then he signed mediocre players. Montella was a weird one - his playstyle could be great and some of the best in the country, or abysmal and a joke. No real in between.

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That being sad, I don't think it's particularly necessary to re-examine the whole pallette of coaches we had prior to Rino. Bad management + bad players choices/signings + inexperienced coaches - what's there to expect? And this especially for Mirabelli and Fassone who in the end resulted, very unsurprisingly, with a disaster of their own.


Everyone went bonkers that they were so much better than Galliani. Not really the case.

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The mistake Leo and Paolo made is simple: they should have gone for Carletto all the way. I'm positive Ancelotti would have signed for Milan this summer if we tried convincingly to sign him and also offered Rino his old position or some back room position. But well - we wanted to be fair and give a chance to the man who made the best out of a messy season.


But you said at the start we can't sign someone like Ancelotti?

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But no more memory lane. Bringing in Liverpool now to the discussion brings little because there's little comparative material.


Like us they ended up in the wilderness having been at the peak of English and European football for decades. Like us they were a fallen giant. But unlike us they really went for it in getting Klopp. We never show that kind of ambition.

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Our survival depends on reaching 4th spot. Take a look at what happens in Germany for example - interim coaches and fireman managers at Schalke, Stuttgart, etc. shake up teams and bring them to success with new motivational impulses. Same happens in Serie A with Bologna under Mihajlovic. Hell, same happened when Cesare Maldini replaced Zaccheroni at Milan. So I really think that if Milan is unable to strike a deal with say Conte, we have to let go of Rino and bring in a fireman. At least that way we're trying to do something other then slowly watching this team and all hope die a slow death.

But well, perhaps we'll win Torino today ... and well ...


Hah, fat chance! And I don't want Conte.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 28 2019, 11:57 PM) *
Honestly, we weren't really playing that great. Except for the Atalanta game, which I think has been our best showing this season, all other games were just us huffing and puffing to get the bare minimum.



Cutrone is an excuse of a striker. He's be great for a team like Genoa, but for a team with CL ambitions? Not even worthy of a bench warmer. I admire his grit and passion, but he's just very poor.

Disagree, I think we were playing very well up until the Napoli Coppa game and a couple after it. I don't think we were all that great against Atalanta either, the end result flattered us. We've been going downhill since the Roma game though and it has been getting worse and worse with each week

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 29 2019, 11:05 AM) *
So... Milan will stick with Gattuso until summer. Then we part ways. What a stupid decision!!!

I agree that it's a bad decision but most reports are claiming that they can't find anyone who can come in for just a month and make a difference

They're not going to sign a Conte or Mourinho now (if they're at all possible), so I don't know who we can get on an interim basis that could dig us out of this tbh

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2019, 01:32 PM) *
Since 2012 it's the only kind we've made.

Eh, the new management has so far made very smart decisions. Rino is not their guy. They went ahead with him this season because he had not deserved to be let go simply because he wasn't their guy, but now his position has become untenable. Apparently during the press conference he said that he does not get a reaction out of this group even during training. That's worse than bad, and I honestly don't understand how they can leave him in the position when that is the case.
Danny
Seems you're in your own bubble Han.
han2503
Rino putting in Mauri for the injured Biglia instead of Bakayoko ...

Talk about petty man...

Our season is on the line and he pulls this BS!
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 6 2019, 07:59 PM) *
Rino putting in Mauri for the injured Biglia instead of Bakayoko ...

Talk about petty man...

Our season is on the line and he pulls this BS!


You gotta stick to your principles.
X-Offender
UPDATE: Apparently Gattuso called Bakayoko to replace Biglia but the Frenchman refused to enter.

Who's petty now, Han?
Fillipo Simone
I don't believe this.
Fillipo Simone
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“These are important points, as we were sixth earlier today, now we are right there for the Champions League. We’re not in great shape and knew we had to work hard, which we did,” the Coach told Sky Sport Italia.

It was a tense week already, as the squad went into a five-day training retreat to prepare for this game, largely because Bakayoko turned up an hour late to training because he ran out of petrol.

“The players were angry with me because I kept them away from their families for five days, so I told them to turn that anger into positive energy on the field and I think they did that.

“We were a little predictable, but anyone who has played football knows in these difficult moments, it’s best to keep it simple and avoid costly errors.”

However, it was a game filled with tension, as Lucas Paqueta was sent off for slapping the referee’s hand away after a booking and will be suspended against Fiorentina.

In the opening minutes, Gattuso asked Bakayoko to warm up after a Lucas Biglia injury, but he was so slow that the Coach called up Jose Mauri instead and the two men exchanged clear insults on the touchline.

“What happens is our business and it happens in our dressing room. I asked Bakayoko to get ready, he took a while, so I called up Jose Mauri.

“We wear a prestigious jersey, I have to be clear and honest. I waited seven or eight minutes and he hadn’t even put his shin-pads on. I’ve told many Coaches to get stuffed in my career, it ended there. We’ll see, it’s all about respect.

“The players can say anything to me, but the main thing is that they don’t lack respect for their teammates and the dressing room atmosphere.

“We have other priorities right now. We’ll see at the end of the season, like a school report, who behaved well and badly. Anyone can insult me on the touchline, but we’ll meet in a room eye-to-eye and see.

“I want to sort this out in the dressing room and talk in my language, which I cannot do on television. So we have to focus on the victory and not waste time on other issues.”

Now Milan risk being without Paqueta for several weeks, as he was sent off or slapping the referee’s hand away.

“Paqueta is young and I don’t think he even realised what he was doing, putting his hands on the referee. It irritates me and we have to improve that aspect too, but he’s young and naïve.

“We have to think only of ourselves. We ended the game not with 10 men, but seven, as there were several with cramp and who hadn’t played 90 minutes in a long time.

“If you look at our squad, we’re giving our all at this moment. We’re not in the best shape right now, that’s obvious, but with all our injuries, the change of club ownership and everything else we’ve been through, we’re doing all we can.

“I want to thank the 50,000 fans who showed up tonight, as I thought they were going to jeer us, but they cheered the team on from start to finish.”

Source: FI

He exactly refuse... but... well - he's a complete idiot, that Bakayoko.
X-Offender
Paqueta suspended for three games.
Fillipo Simone
Well, idiotic move by him. He deservedly got suspended. Only his youth is a excuse.
Danny
At least we won?

No question there's a new order in European football. One which looks remarkably like the 70s and 80s coming back. Ajax, Liverpool...

Meanwhile the traditional powerhouses Milan, Man Utd, Real, even Barca are now starting to dwindle.

The final four in the UCL was a big clue as to where things are.

The new order is Liverpool, Ajax, PSG, Man City, and to an extent Juve and Bayern.

But as long as our manager is allegedly calling our black players negros, we're not getting out our hole any time soon.
Rossoneri7
Danny wouldn't call it a new order. Just that Barca and Madrid are too used to winning while those you mentioned have more fire under their belly in addition to a current crop of good players who play amazing football. That is all.

Come next year and the final of CL would most likely feature Madrid or Barca.

The phase Milan is going through is normal its just that us fans don't have the patiance to allow room for growth. As it stands we have waited a lot now. While take Spurs as an example, they have not won anything for years yet they stuck with the same manager. Case in point Klopp, after last year's run, had the Liverpool fans been Milan fans they'd be calling for his scalp.

Then... Oh well you get the point
Fillipo Simone
I don't think anyone here would have called for Klopp to resign? That's absurd... he's the sole responsible person for getting Shaqiri, Origi and such a team to the final - now twice. I think everyone sees that.
Rossoneri7
Nope, just Ancelotti of course
Fillipo Simone
I get your point but it's a slightly different position/situation. Milan was packed with world class players back then - an people wanted more. Klopp has a average to good team and he's getting the maximum out of them.
Danny
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 8 2019, 12:26 PM) *
I get your point but it's a slightly different position/situation. Milan was packed with world class players back then - an people wanted more. Klopp has a average to good team and he's getting the maximum out of them.


Ha! Klopp spent 150M on two players! Don't kid yourself on that he's taking an average group of players up a level!

He's a wonderful manager, yes, but he has a great group of players too. An expensive group that he spent a bucketload on.
Danny
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 8 2019, 08:31 AM) *
Danny wouldn't call it a new order. Just that Barca and Madrid are too used to winning while those you mentioned have more fire under their belly in addition to a current crop of good players who play amazing football. That is all.

Come next year and the final of CL would most likely feature Madrid or Barca.


Barca haven't made the final since 2015 (having only been in it once since 2012), and Real lost the reason they did. Things are a-changing.

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The phase Milan is going through is normal its just that us fans don't have the patiance to allow room for growth. As it stands we have waited a lot now. While take Spurs as an example, they have not won anything for years yet they stuck with the same manager.


Spurs NEVER won anything? Spurs are not a winning club. Look at their history. Bad example.

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Case in point Klopp, after last year's run, had the Liverpool fans been Milan fans they'd be calling for his scalp.


They did a couple of seasons ago. Wrong again.

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Then... Oh well you get the point


Unfortunately your argument is based on things which aren't actually true, my friend. So, not really!
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