QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 29 2016, 12:23 PM) 
Juve.
Isn't it funny that an Allegri team always tends to have an "injury crises" at one point or another during a season
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Isn't it funny that an Allegri team always tends to have an "injury crises" at one point or another during a season
It's a Allegri classic.
I'm stunned how the stadium is half empty. Also, why this isn't an evening fixture.
But Han, honestly, to drag a discussion from one thread to another, Roma is on pair with Bacelona and Real when it comes to creating chances?
I'm stunned how the stadium is half empty. Also, why this isn't an evening fixture.
But Han, honestly, to drag a discussion from one thread to another, Roma is on pair with Bacelona and Real when it comes to creating chances?
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 4 2016, 03:52 PM)
It's a Allegri classic.
I'm stunned how the stadium is half empty. Also, why this isn't an evening fixture.
But Han, honestly, to drag a discussion from one thread to another, Roma is on pair with Bacelona and Real when it comes to creating chances?
I'm stunned how the stadium is half empty. Also, why this isn't an evening fixture.
But Han, honestly, to drag a discussion from one thread to another, Roma is on pair with Bacelona and Real when it comes to creating chances?
Yes, well statistically speaking, they're up there with those 2 clubs in terms of chances created per game (let's not confuse it with goals scored though). I was listening to a Serie A podcast which made mention of it.
And honestly, I don't find that hard to believe, Roma create a lot of chances in each game, it's the end product that's not always there, not to mention the major choking syndrome they suffer from
Anyway, that's completely off point. Only thing I wanted to underline is that it's pretty much useless in predicting these games. It's a big match. Milan has problems and lacks key players, but that doesn't mean we don't have a fighting chance. Sometimes it's also about the mentality, fans included 
On paper Roma have a fantastic team. I mean, De Rossi, Strootman, Nainggolan, Salah, Perrotti, Dzeko, these are all top quality players. Their defense is questionable, though. Aside from Manolas, I don't really trust any of their defenders.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 4 2016, 04:12 PM)
Anyway, that's completely off point. Only thing I wanted to underline is that it's pretty much useless in predicting these games. It's a big match. Milan has problems and lacks key players, but that doesn't mean we don't have a fighting chance. Sometimes it's also about the mentality, fans included
True, and we've beaten the odds this season already. I just think that Roma are exactly the type of team that are lethal for us to play against, even more so than Juve.
We'll see. Kucka is a huge loss. Either Pasalic or Betolacci (if fit) will have to fill that role. Not to mention that Locatelli both today and last week against Empoli was a bit of a liability with the way he lost the ball, that can't happen against Roma
All that being said, I'd be more than happy with a scrappy draw. We're also playing away from home so that also factors into it
Start Honda in Midfield. 
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 5 2016, 07:07 AM)
Start Honda in Midfield.
Yes, totally. I'd prefer Honda over Sosa or Pasalic any day of the week.
It's strange how Honda ended up a winger with us. Even Montella said a few days ago that he considers him as Suso's counterpart. He was never a winger at CSKA or Japan, always playing in the attacking midfield or even in central midfield...
He's a completely failed and warn out player. In a crisis like this, when all we have available are youngsters and inexperienced green players, I suppose he can do good. But we've gotta get rid of players like him and Sosa ASAP.
I like Honda. 
I want him to stay and do well. He's been an exemplary professional.
I want him to stay and do well. He's been an exemplary professional.
That he has. Sadly, only that.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Dec 6 2016, 06:04 AM)
I like Honda. I want him to stay and do well. He's been an exemplary professional.
I want him to stay and do well. He's been an exemplary professional.No he hasn't! He whined to the press in seasons gone by about being out of the team and said Serie A didn't suit him! I'm certain he did.
QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 4 2016, 04:26 PM)
Anyone watching the Rome derby? And do you know why the Olimpico is 2/3 empty while hosting such a big game?
Roma fans are boycotting. Something to do with being fined for their flags, barriers put up in the Curva's and stuff like that.
Last season Lazio fans did the same and the stadium was basically empty.
Strootman suspended for the next two games. Good news.
^^
That is good news. Now we only have to worry about 10 other players.
If we get Bonaventura back, we have a chance to draw this. Otherwise I'm worried.
That is good news. Now we only have to worry about 10 other players.
If we get Bonaventura back, we have a chance to draw this. Otherwise I'm worried.
I'll open the match thread tomorrow since we're talking about the Roma game here.
But I noticed you guys talking about Honda, and I have to agree that I'd just put him in there if either Bona is out or even instead of Niang if Bona is available.
Honda looked very sharp when he came on last Sunday, the exact opposite of Sosa who's clearly sluggish and complete off the pace, and Niang looks like he's forgot how to run with the ball at his feet as well. Honda delivered the cross for the assist and made a couple of key touches as well in the short period of time he was on the field.
I really do think he's our best option over Sosa or even Niang (if we have Bona back that is)
But I noticed you guys talking about Honda, and I have to agree that I'd just put him in there if either Bona is out or even instead of Niang if Bona is available.
Honda looked very sharp when he came on last Sunday, the exact opposite of Sosa who's clearly sluggish and complete off the pace, and Niang looks like he's forgot how to run with the ball at his feet as well. Honda delivered the cross for the assist and made a couple of key touches as well in the short period of time he was on the field.
I really do think he's our best option over Sosa or even Niang (if we have Bona back that is)
Who knows. It's like picking your preferred way of dying. In the end, they all suck.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 7 2016, 10:57 PM)
Who knows. It's like picking your preferred way of dying. In the end, they all suck.
Han makes a point - Honda did do actually ok when he came on. But he's absolutely not of the requisite quality we need anywhere on the pitch.
Bah, he came on for what, 10 minutes? Against a beaten team of Serie B quality.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 7 2016, 11:18 PM)
Bah, he came on for what, 10 minutes? Against a beaten team of Serie B quality.
It was 1-1 when he came on. His free kick led to Lapagols' winner. And he was on for about 20 minutes. I'm not defending him, just giving a factual account.
Mediaset has Bonaventura starting. Hopefully.
QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 8 2016, 04:11 PM)
It was 1-1 when he came on. His free kick led to Lapagols' winner. And he was on for about 20 minutes. I'm not defending him, just giving a factual account.
Really? Hmh. But my point stays. The match all in all tells you little about Honda in regard to our next opponent.
Anyone heard? Serie A will officially have 4 CL spots from 2018/19.
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 9 2016, 11:59 PM)
Anyone heard? Serie A will officially have 4 CL spots from 2018/19.
Napoli so lucky tonight. Almost lost to Sampdoria, but then Silvestre got red, managed to get a pretty luck equalizer and afterwards a winner in the last second of a 5 minute extra time.
They're apparently insisting that Pepe Reina be given a ban for simulation. That's what got their player sent off.
Interesting what is happening with Juve these days. As I see it, until recently Allegri was coaching Conte's Juve (granted he got better results than Conte, but the team was already in place when he started). What you are now seeing is a team more in Allegri's mold, with muscle players being chosen over creative players. They still are the dominant team in Serie A (and probably will remain so for some time), but they are no longer unbeatable, especially when playing away from their stadium.
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jan 16 2017, 10:09 AM)
Interesting what is happening with Juve these days. As I see it, until recently Allegri was coaching Conte's Juve (granted he got better results than Conte, but the team was already in place when he started). What you are now seeing is a team more in Allegri's mold, with muscle players being chosen over creative players. They still are the dominant team in Serie A (and probably will remain so for some time), but they are no longer unbeatable, especially when playing away from their stadium.
I also feel, Allegri has been placed in a similar situation as he was with Milan. He was given a properly overpowered team, and then they started chopping off at the foundation. Hard to move seamlessly from Vidal and Pogba to Pjanic and whoever they have now.
I believe his cycle at Juve is coming to an end and maybe time to try a different league.
But Juve are now doing a Bayern and wrapping up youth deals with the best in Seria A going to them. Our delayed purchase is hitting us hard.
But Milan had to sell top players and replace them with sub-par signings because we had to redistribute the money.
On the other hand, Juventus sold Pogba and at the same time broke bank for Higuain. It's not that they needed money, they sold Pogba just like a typical Juve deal (cashing in on players like Zidane). There's the big difference that Juventus voluntarily decided to splash big amounts of money on strikers while the midfield has been neglected. I momentarily knew that with Pirlo gone and Pogba gone (as well as for example Coman) and their focus on strikers to solve the problem, Juventus is doings a big step backward.
Allegri's cycle just started. Probably it won't get ugly because they still have by miles the superiority needed to succeed in Serie A. But Buffon said something recently about the CL. I think that's off the plate. They're headed a different path now.
On the other hand, Juventus sold Pogba and at the same time broke bank for Higuain. It's not that they needed money, they sold Pogba just like a typical Juve deal (cashing in on players like Zidane). There's the big difference that Juventus voluntarily decided to splash big amounts of money on strikers while the midfield has been neglected. I momentarily knew that with Pirlo gone and Pogba gone (as well as for example Coman) and their focus on strikers to solve the problem, Juventus is doings a big step backward.
Allegri's cycle just started. Probably it won't get ugly because they still have by miles the superiority needed to succeed in Serie A. But Buffon said something recently about the CL. I think that's off the plate. They're headed a different path now.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 16 2017, 10:39 AM)
But Milan had to sell top players and replace them with sub-par signings because we had to redistribute the money.
On the other hand, Juventus sold Pogba and at the same time broke bank for Higuain. It's not that they needed money, they sold Pogba just like a typical Juve deal (cashing in on players like Zidane). There's the big difference that Juventus voluntarily decided to splash big amounts of money on strikers while the midfield has been neglected. I momentarily knew that with Pirlo gone and Pogba gone (as well as for example Coman) and their focus on strikers to solve the problem, Juventus is doings a big step backward.
Allegri's cycle just started. Probably it won't get ugly because they still have by miles the superiority needed to succeed in Serie A. But Buffon said something recently about the CL. I think that's off the plate. They're headed a different path now.
On the other hand, Juventus sold Pogba and at the same time broke bank for Higuain. It's not that they needed money, they sold Pogba just like a typical Juve deal (cashing in on players like Zidane). There's the big difference that Juventus voluntarily decided to splash big amounts of money on strikers while the midfield has been neglected. I momentarily knew that with Pirlo gone and Pogba gone (as well as for example Coman) and their focus on strikers to solve the problem, Juventus is doings a big step backward.
Allegri's cycle just started. Probably it won't get ugly because they still have by miles the superiority needed to succeed in Serie A. But Buffon said something recently about the CL. I think that's off the plate. They're headed a different path now.
Its not just that. From what I read, you are also starting to see typical Allegri decisions, like shunning creative mids and instead playing others that are more "muscle" than anything else. But maybe this is just a phase, he has shown that he can get things together by the end of the season. Also, I think you are right in that CL is their #1 objective right now.
In any case, what Juve is doing with young talent throughout Serie A is indeed a concern.
Serie A to Implement VAR
Serie A is set to introduce video assistant referees (VAR) for the 2017-18 season while scrapping its use of goal-line referees.
VAR has been tested in international friendlies and some tournaments, including the Under-20 World Cup and Club World Cup, and now Serie A is set to follow suit for the new campaign.
As a result, Serie A, which brought in goal-line technology for last season, will no longer require the use of goal-line referees.
Italian Football Federation president Carlo Tavecchio said FIFA has not yet approved the new plans but should do in time for the new season.
"We asked for a little understanding from the clubs as we introduce this new system into all the stadiums," Tavecchio told Corriere dello Sport.
"We're going to need a separate room for the video assistant referees and at least eight television cameras following the action. The Lega Serie A will cover the costs, in the region of €2 million.
"Crotone will therefore play their first two games at home, allowing Cagliari to play theirs away so that they've got time to finish the stadium.
"FIFA have not given full authorisation yet, but all the signals are clear and say we'll begin at the start of the season."
Serie A is set to introduce video assistant referees (VAR) for the 2017-18 season while scrapping its use of goal-line referees.
VAR has been tested in international friendlies and some tournaments, including the Under-20 World Cup and Club World Cup, and now Serie A is set to follow suit for the new campaign.
As a result, Serie A, which brought in goal-line technology for last season, will no longer require the use of goal-line referees.
Italian Football Federation president Carlo Tavecchio said FIFA has not yet approved the new plans but should do in time for the new season.
"We asked for a little understanding from the clubs as we introduce this new system into all the stadiums," Tavecchio told Corriere dello Sport.
"We're going to need a separate room for the video assistant referees and at least eight television cameras following the action. The Lega Serie A will cover the costs, in the region of €2 million.
"Crotone will therefore play their first two games at home, allowing Cagliari to play theirs away so that they've got time to finish the stadium.
"FIFA have not given full authorisation yet, but all the signals are clear and say we'll begin at the start of the season."
Nice.
QUOTE (amancik @ Jun 11 2017, 08:51 PM)
Serie A to Implement VAR
Serie A is set to introduce video assistant referees (VAR) for the 2017-18 season while scrapping its use of goal-line referees.
VAR has been tested in international friendlies and some tournaments, including the Under-20 World Cup and Club World Cup, and now Serie A is set to follow suit for the new campaign.
As a result, Serie A, which brought in goal-line technology for last season, will no longer require the use of goal-line referees.
Italian Football Federation president Carlo Tavecchio said FIFA has not yet approved the new plans but should do in time for the new season.
"We asked for a little understanding from the clubs as we introduce this new system into all the stadiums," Tavecchio told Corriere dello Sport.
hmm interesting.
"We're going to need a separate room for the video assistant referees and at least eight television cameras following the action. The Lega Serie A will cover the costs, in the region of €2 million.
"Crotone will therefore play their first two games at home, allowing Cagliari to play theirs away so that they've got time to finish the stadium.
"FIFA have not given full authorisation yet, but all the signals are clear and say we'll begin at the start of the season."
Serie A is set to introduce video assistant referees (VAR) for the 2017-18 season while scrapping its use of goal-line referees.
VAR has been tested in international friendlies and some tournaments, including the Under-20 World Cup and Club World Cup, and now Serie A is set to follow suit for the new campaign.
As a result, Serie A, which brought in goal-line technology for last season, will no longer require the use of goal-line referees.
Italian Football Federation president Carlo Tavecchio said FIFA has not yet approved the new plans but should do in time for the new season.
"We asked for a little understanding from the clubs as we introduce this new system into all the stadiums," Tavecchio told Corriere dello Sport.
hmm interesting.
"We're going to need a separate room for the video assistant referees and at least eight television cameras following the action. The Lega Serie A will cover the costs, in the region of €2 million.
"Crotone will therefore play their first two games at home, allowing Cagliari to play theirs away so that they've got time to finish the stadium.
"FIFA have not given full authorisation yet, but all the signals are clear and say we'll begin at the start of the season."
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