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Zed.D
Mods feel free to move this to the right thread.

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Allegri: 'I don't feel at risk'
By Football Italia staff

Massimiliano Allegri sniped “some couldn’t wait for us to lose,” but insists his job is not on the line as speculation grows Milan will fire him if he fails to win the Scudetto.

The last week has been disastrous for the Rossoneri, who dropped a four-point lead to fall behind Juventus in the Serie A table and were knocked out of the Champions League by Barcelona.

“I absolutely do not feel at risk,” insisted Allegri after the 2-1 home defeat to Fiorentina.

“Certain evaluations are down to the club and will only be made at the end of the season. I prefer to concentrate on what we have to do right now.”

President Silvio Berlusconi was critical of Allegri’s approach during the two legs against Barcelona, fuelling speculation failure to win the Scudetto will result in a new Coach.

“We all have to live it day by day, game by game, because too many calculations have been made over the past few days.

“There are still seven rounds to go. Everyone said Juve had a great chance of winning the Scudetto when they were behind us, so I don’t see why we shouldn’t in the same position.”

Allegri also sniped at the media and chasing pack after the shock 2-1 home defeat to Fiorentina, which saw Milan go in front with a very dubious penalty.

“I realised that many, let’s say the vast majority, couldn’t wait for Milan to lose. There, it happened. Now we will move forward.

“Nobody expected this defeat, not even us, but we have the character to get back on our feet. It can happen in a season. Don’t forget we had a long run-up to go four points clear of Juve, so you do pay for this strain. It’s not over yet, though.”

La Gazzetta dello Sport is already speculating on potential replacements for Allegri, including Marco van Basten, Marcello Lippi, Fabio Capello and the promotion of Clarence Seedorf.


laugh.gif laugh.gif Imagine that...
acid911
Imagine that, indeed. laugh.gif tongue.gif Oh, and by the way, this seems like the right thread, it's news after all.
kurtsimonw
Allegri out + Tevez in and I will find it difficult to care how we do next season.
acid911
And you do know that both are very valid possibilities. unsure.gif Distinctly valid possibilities.
I_Rossoneri
Rumour has it that Berlusconi and Galliani had a fallout yesterday, not sure whether it was over Allegri or not. Personally I think Allegri is doing a good job, and but for injuries and dodgy decisions we would almost be champions by now. If we are to change manager at the end of the season I think it would be a bad move.
Zed.D
^^

+1. we first need to make changes in MilanLab, then the team and finally the coaching staff!
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 8 2012, 02:31 PM) *
Rumour has it that Berlusconi and Galliani had a fallout yesterday

Where'd you see that? huh.gif
acid911
Berlusconi and Galliani have had fallout before on Pato, so no surprises there. sleep.gif Now that Mr. B is back full time, expect more of this in the coming weeks and months.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 8 2012, 08:54 PM) *
^^

+1. we first need to make changes in MilanLab, then the team and finally the coaching staff!


Wouldn't be too bad if we changed coach at first. sleep.gif
X-Offender
There was a nice article by Luca Serafini (a very informed Milan fan and journalist that I highly esteem) on TMW today, which I decided to translate and post here.

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The aftermath of Milan-Fiornetina is characterized by frustration and anger. Many people have raised their voice, starting from those fans who want out all the senators, passing by those who don't consider the latest signings to be of Milan quality. It may not be appropriate to overreact after every negative result, but the last three - which might compromise Milan's season - have especially angered Berlusconi. He doesn't forgive to Allegri the lack of an identity of football that resembles his philosophy of the beautiful game. Even though he reluctantly accepted the changes of Ronaldinho and Pirlo with Robinho and van Bommel (and now, to an extent, with Emanuelson and Muntari), he's determined to intervene personally by not only changing the coach, barely tolerated until now, but also by changing the players. Do not expect a pharaonic signing campaign: it will be a matter of ideas that will pass through Berlusconi at first hand. At this point of the season, it is not suitable to talk about revolutions and all, but the rage and frustration that is mounting by the hour at Arcore might let slip out more than a few rumors.

Exactly like those at San Siro after the Fiorentina game, where supposedly Ibrahimovic was furious at Allegri and the athletic trainer, Tognaccini, frustrated about the line-up and the many injuries that have plagued the team. Ibra wants a more creative and less muscly team (with maybe Emanuelson as LB and Aquilani as AM). Maybe also expect from some of his teammates to bear pain to a higher degree, instead of forfeiting whenever there's the slightest of injuries. As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it? A question that needs to be answered as soon as possible.

Link
acid911
Great job, X-Off. king.gif Perfectly sensible views.
I_Rossoneri
But what can Allegri do if he's not given the right players to play like Barca? Galliani has been doing well to get us where we are for with little money. Once Silvio starts dipping his hand in his pocket then he has the right to complain, but until then he ought to keep quiet.

And let's be serious, in the first game against Barca we did excellently to stifle them and in the second we had them rocking and only the award of the dubious second penalty kept them in the game. Against Fiorentina the whole team looked tired which is understandable given that we have so many injuries we can't rotate players. It is not all down to Allegri.
TriniKing_CE
Didn't understand what was mean't by this bit:

As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it?
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 8 2012, 09:33 PM) *
Didn't understand what was mean't by this bit:

As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it?


Something to do with Allegri's training methods? I think they have been questioned for being too physical which is part of the reason why we've had so many injuries. Personally I just think they're using Allegri as a scapegoat.
X-Offender
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 8 2012, 10:33 PM) *
Didn't understand what was mean't by this bit:

As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it?


I didn't understand it very well either what he meant, in Italian, but I guess the general idea is what I_Rossoneri wrote above.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 8 2012, 04:45 PM) *
Something to do with Allegri's training methods? I think they have been questioned for being too physical which is part of the reason why we've had so many injuries. Personally I just think they're using Allegri as a scapegoat.

Thanks. Understood. wink.gif

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 8 2012, 05:38 PM) *
I didn't understand it very well either what he meant, in Italian, but I guess the general idea is what I_Rossoneri wrote above.

Makes some sense I guess.
William405
Well,did such injuries when Allegri was in charge of Cagliari?I don't have any idea about his training methods,but I doubt Conte is not as physical(if not more) in his training methods,and do you see any injuries.Maybe though,some Milan players cannot withstand too much physical training,which is weird because I see the likes of Boateng as an athletic beast,so is Thiago Silva in some way.I really doubt it has to do with Allegri's training methods...more than the incompetence of our medical team.I mean let's say,it's Allegri's fault,but once the medical team is getting that injured player,and then failing to get him back at the "correct" time,or doubling his injury time,then there is something wrong.
Fillipo Simone
First of all, thank you X-O for the nice translation and good piece of journalism smile.gif

Secondly, yes we need to make changes, but the coach shouldn't be excluded. But only if Capello or another fox could be signed I'd go for it. As for the training methods: well that's happened before as well. For example Ottmar Hitzfeld did it at Bayern season after season and the FC Hollywood team turned into a FC Infirmary. So I wouldn't discard the possibility that injuries are connected with the sessions. That sure isn't the sole reason or even the biggest reason, but it is one I'll acknowledge.
Zed.D
I think we can all agree that our injuries are a result of a combination of many things. bad pitch, incompetent medical staff, incompetent fitness coaches, even training methods.

That said, and I'm not a doctor but my common sense says that the training methods shouldn't be an issue if all the other problems are resolved. I guess it just aggravates the problem if there exists one.

As for who should be the manager next season, I'd rather stick with Allegri than bring the likes of Capello and Lippi. I want a young coach who's eager to win trophies not old men who have already won everything there is to win. not to mention their school of thought which is very old fashioned (I'm not saying Allegri's is oh so modern).

Call me crazy and uninformed but I wouldn't mind Van Basten.

Also! when we part ways with Max, I'd like to see Tassotti let go as well. Mauro is a very nice guy and I understand he's very highly rated as a defensive coach, but I think the team could badly use a new coach. he's been here for way too long.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 12:31 PM) *
Call me crazy and uninformed but I wouldn't mind Van Basten.


Funnily enough I was just reading that Silvio wants MVB as coach next season as well! MVB has signed a one year extension at Heerenveen but the article said a phone call from Berlusconi would bring Marco back.

Here is the translated article:
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Silvio Berlusconi dreams of Marco Van Basten as coach of Milan: "Conte seems very fanatical in the dock". This phrase could represent the beginning of the adventure of Marco Van Basten on the Milan bench. The rossonero ex-delantero some time ago was expressed in the duel Juve-Milan and said about Zlatan Ibrahimovic: "I don't know if I was more specific, but I know that he is also scoring much and who makes goals marked differences in football, but it is important that the team believes sometimes, because the goal is a matter of both".

It seems that the Swan of Utrecht is already studying the movements of Milan and the best conditions to get the great talent of Ibra. All sensations, but very strong. A fortiori after the unexpected fall against Fiorentina.

The continuous malhumores of Silvio Berlusconi are unambiguous signals that sometimes appear on the result. The 0-0 against Barcelona at San Siro, the President of the Milan fought almost rostrum with Galliani. Discussion born by the lack of the "good game" by the rossoneri, unlike the blaugrana. Nothing to say about the outcome as it is obvious, but Berlusconi is a President who looks also to the provision and not only to the success.

The truth is that Allegri has changed to this Milan, especially in the Middle, throwing to Pirlo and getting physical and muscular players. But now, the team is without quality in the middle and growing problems. Not only hear cries from the rostrum of honour. Zlatan Ibrahimovic was really angry after the defeat by Fiorentina, because from the center of the field balls that could play him failed.

We know the importance of the views of Ibra in Via Turati club, so much so that some signings arrived last season after receiving their acceptance, as cases of Robinho or Van Bommel. Therefore, if Swedish begins to murmur against Allegri too (something which appears increasingly more constant), the rossonero club could take into consideration the hypothesis of closing the adventure with the technical livornés ahead of time.

What can weigh even more in this decision obviously is not win this scudetto. Allegri is especially charged the mismanagement of the injured. Starting with Thiago Silva used in a frenetic manner in the semifinals of the cup of Italy, something that seemed more a personal duel against Conte to a football match. Apart from duck and Cassano, is the mystery of Boateng where Milan this year barely has been able to count on him.

But the crucial question is the ideology of game. Berlusconi, as a man of the sport, may set aside a style of play but only if get great results. Win the scudetto for the second consecutive year might be the only reason why keep Massimiliano Allegri. If it is not, change and start again. Under other bases, the possession of ball for example, aspect has always exalted the rossonero President.

And Marco Van Basten embodies perfectly what that could be a model Milan to create again. The Dutch familiar with the environment and is very estimated by Berlusconi. Not to mention the fans rossoneros that are still very close to the Noord. They van Basten could teach much Ibra and his companions, telling them how best to serve them. It is true that the Swan of Utrecht has just signed with the Heerenveen for the next season, but a call from Berlusconi could suffice for a great change of scene.

These are therefore possible changes that you can see on the horizon. Galliani face after the defeat on Saturday was eloquently and their deafening silence. I don't want to make any statement to talk directly to the team at Milanello. The Group should once again be together right away, already think in the future then. But moemnto, Allegri seems destined to stay far away from Milan.
acid911
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 04:31 PM) *
Also! when we part ways with Max, I'd like to see Tassotti let go as well. Mauro is a very nice guy and I understand he's very highly rated as a defensive coach, but I think the team could badly use a new coach. he's been here for way too long.

What has poor old Mauro ever done to you, Zed. ohmy.gif Heartless, very heartless! tongue.gif laugh.gif
X-Offender
I would be very excited about van Basten. He represents a philosophy of football opposite to that of Allegri's, and we desperately need an offensive Milan, characterized by ball possession and quality in the middle, instead of this huff-and-puff version that relies on long balls when the going gets tough.
William405
Haven't we suffered enough with Leonardo...
X-Offender
QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 9 2012, 03:21 PM) *
Haven't we suffered enough with Leonardo...


Leonardo is a n00b.
acid911
Basten is another noob, not as classy in presentation, maybe with a bit more experience, surely much more hotheaded, but still very much a noob. sleep.gif I've already mentioned this a while back. While I won't be totally against his move here, but things will surely get much more interesting, both on and off the field if he does.
William405
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 04:23 PM) *
Leonardo is a n00b.


And,Van Basten?Come on,don't be so bias!Everyone wants past legends to become great coaches.But,that's like starting from scratch,if Van Basten has showed some promise managing his current team then ok.Fact is,I'd rather keep Allegri,instead of starting from scratch again...If a great coach is available then by all means go for it,I'm not saying Allegri should be untouchable,but it depends on the circumstances.
I_Rossoneri
I have a Dutch friend who is also a Milan fan and he doesn't rate Van Basten as a coach, from what he says Van Basten is like Leonardo so expect us to take heavy beatings if he takes over. Also, if Van Basten was to take over he won't be able to play this wonderful football with the team we've got so Berlusconi will have to delve into his pockets to buy us players that can play that way, and I can't see that happening. I'd sooner keep Allegri and give him some better players.
I_Rossoneri
Also, just because previous players have been excellent for us it doesn't mean they will make great managers.
X-Offender
It's not only about the players, peeps, but mainly about the ideas. If Galliani offered to Allegri the chance to choose between Eriksen and Asamoah, for example, who do you think he'd go for? He loves bulky players and runners, and he doesn't know how to manage classy players. We went from the Milan of ball possession and flashy performances to the Milan of counterattacks and long balls. We're not Cagliari for crying out load! Allegri has this philosophy of football that is the total opposite of what Milan stands for as according to Berlusconi and his vision since he acquired the club.
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 05:20 PM) *
It's not only about the players, peeps, but mainly about the ideas. If Galliani offered to Allegri the chance to choose between Eriksen and Asamoah, for example, who do you think he'd go for? He loves bulky players and runners, and he doesn't know how to manage classy players. We went from the Milan of ball possession and flashy performances to the Milan of counterattacks and long balls. We're not Cagliari for crying out load! Allegri has this philosophy of football that is the total opposite of what Milan stands for as according to Berlusconi and his vision since he acquired the club.


But didn't Galliani and Berlusconi both decide Allegri was the right man for the job?

Personally I'd love to see us playing the most beautiful football in the world, but when Galliani has to go looking for the cheapest players or players looking for a way out of their clubs this will never happen. We need to start buying top quality players that will actually cost money, and unless Berlusconi actually wants to splash the cash then we'd better get used to Allegri's style of play.
X-Offender
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:28 PM) *
But didn't Galliani and Berlusconi both decide Allegri was the right man for the job?

Personally I'd love to see us playing the most beautiful football in the world, but when Galliani has to go looking for the cheapest players or players looking for a way out of their clubs this will never happen. We need to start buying top quality players that will actually cost money, and unless Berlusconi actually wants to splash the cash then we'd better get used to Allegri's style of play.


Galliani: "Unlike with previous coaches, me and Allegri decide together. We sit on a table and evaluate all the possibilities available".

That's what Galliani said some time ago. That shithead of a coach has a big say in our signings. If Galliani told him "Muntari is available on loan, what do you think?", Allegri wouldn't hesitate twice to give him the green light. And if we had more money at disposal, he would go for Asamoah instead, who's like Muntari but 10x better. That's the kind of players he likes. No wonder he replaced Pirlo with van Bommel, and our trequartista's are Boateng and Emanuelson. F@cking disgrace!
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 05:35 PM) *
Galliani: "Unlike with previous coaches, me and Allegri decide together. We sit on a table and evaluate all the possibilities available".

That's what Galliani said some time ago. That shithead of a coach has a big say in our signings. If Galliani told him "Muntari is available on loan, what do you think?", Allegri wouldn't hesitate twice to give him the green light. And if we had more money at disposal, he would go for Asamoah instead, who's like Muntari but 10x better. That's the kind of players he likes. No wonder he replaced Pirlo with van Bommel, and our trequartista's are Boateng and Emanuelson. F@cking disgrace!


Didn't Pirlo want a three year deal, while we offered him a one year deal?(like we do with all over 30's)

And I can't see how Allegri has much of a say in our signings, if he did then he's surely got to be the first manager in a long time to be able to do that. Remember the players Leonardo wanted, but he didn't get any as they cost too much! Look at who we signed - Muntari, cost nothing and we actually got 2.5m from merda for him. Urby 1.5m. Ibra 24m over three seasons. Not sure about prince but I doubt it was much. These are all Galliani type cheap deals that keep costs down.

And hasn't Van Bommel been a revelation? He's been one of the resons we've done so well IMO.
X-Offender
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
Didn't Pirlo want a three year deal, while we offered him a one year deal?(like we do with all over 30's)


And we could have easily offered him a three-year deal if Allegri wanted to. That was just a poor excuse for them to get him the f@ck outta here.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
And I can't see how Allegri has much of a say in our signings, if he did then he's surely got to be the first manager in a long time to be able to do that.


Those are the words from Galliani himself. Him and Allegri decide together.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
Remember the players Leonardo wanted, but he didn't get any as they cost too much! Look at who we signed - Muntari, cost nothing and we actually got 2.5m from merda for him. Urby 1.5m. Ibra 24m over three seasons. Not sure about prince but I doubt it was much. These are all Galliani type cheap deals that keep costs down.


Not an excuse. We signed these players because Allegri gave the green light. A coach wouldn't approve of players he wouldn't have a need for. As good as he is, Galliani could have looked elsewhere and signed someone more suitable to our case.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
And hasn't Van Bommel been a revelation? He's been one of the reasons we've done so well IMO.


I'm not talking about the quality of the player. No doubt van Bommel has been great for us. But he also proves what I've been saying, which is that Allegri prefers muscly players to creative ones.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 07:31 AM) *
I think we can all agree that our injuries are a result of a combination of many things. bad pitch, incompetent medical staff, incompetent fitness coaches, even training methods.

That said, and I'm not a doctor but my common sense says that the training methods shouldn't be an issue if all the other problems are resolved. I guess it just aggravates the problem if there exists one.

As for who should be the manager next season, I'd rather stick with Allegri than bring the likes of Capello and Lippi. I want a young coach who's eager to win trophies not old men who have already won everything there is to win. not to mention their school of thought which is very old fashioned (I'm not saying Allegri's is oh so modern).

Call me crazy and uninformed but I wouldn't mind Van Basten.

Also! when we part ways with Max, I'd like to see Tassotti let go as well. Mauro is a very nice guy and I understand he's very highly rated as a defensive coach, but I think the team could badly use a new coach. he's been here for way too long.

I agree with your post except for the Van Basten bit, and definitely not the Tassotti bit! ohmy.gif


QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 9 2012, 10:54 AM) *
And,Van Basten?Come on,don't be so bias!Everyone wants past legends to become great coaches.But,that's like starting from scratch,if Van Basten has showed some promise managing his current team then ok.Fact is,I'd rather keep Allegri,instead of starting from scratch again...If a great coach is available then by all means go for it,I'm not saying Allegri should be untouchable,but it depends on the circumstances.

Agreed. smile.gif

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 12:20 PM) *
It's not only about the players, peeps, but mainly about the ideas. If Galliani offered to Allegri the chance to choose between Eriksen and Asamoah, for example, who do you think he'd go for? He loves bulky players and runners, and he doesn't know how to manage classy players. We went from the Milan of ball possession and flashy performances to the Milan of counterattacks and long balls. We're not Cagliari for crying out load! Allegri has this philosophy of football that is the total opposite of what Milan stands for as according to Berlusconi and his vision since he acquired the club.

The thing is, in very little time Allegri has brought us back to the search for top. He has won us a league already and we can possibly win a next one still. Apart from our recent poor set of results and his most recent selection fail, overall he has done good. We can't keep on saying he likes strength over skill so because of that he is better suited for a small club coach; the fact is he is a couple good signings away from having a very good team, at which point we can then properly assess things and look to make judgement afterwards.

Why give him the axe now, to start over yet again? We are can already just continue to heading in the right direction with proper reinforcements & correct player departures.

So to summarize, his first season we got the long awaited Serie A title, 2nd season we are still challenging for it up to the end (and could possibly win it) - If it wasn't for an unexplained number of injuries & unfortunate reffing errors, we could have still been ahead in Serie A, and possibly in the CL Semis. Not to mention that we had an fair showing in the CL (progression-wise) despite coming up against the undoubtedly best club in the world at them moment (4 times).

The guy clearly deserves another season. I think the best is yet to come.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 03:16 PM) *
I would be very excited about van Basten. He represents a philosophy of football opposite to that of Allegri's, and we desperately need an offensive Milan, characterized by ball possession and quality in the middle, instead of this huff-and-puff version that relies on long balls when the going gets tough.

No. Absolutely no. I can't understand Berlusconi. Why on heaven should we go for another adventure?? I mean, if van Basten is the alternative then I'd go with Allegri. At least Allegri won more then Basten did with Holland and Ajax plus Heerenveen now. If we make a change, I want someone with experience and prior success, someone who doesn't always have to run to Tassotti for help when needed.

@Zeddie, sorry but to say we need a change with Tassotti isn't just coldhearted, it's pointless and makes no sense. Bayern and most of the great teams always hang on to their coaching stuff. The intelligent defensive stuff comes from Tassotti as well - just think of Abate and the work he's done with him. No, no, no, this would be a grave mistake.
William405
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 9 2012, 09:17 PM) *
No. Absolutely no. I can't understand Berlusconi. Why on heaven should we go for another adventure?? I mean, if van Basten is the alternative then I'd go with Allegri. At least Allegri won more then Basten did with Holland and Ajax plus Heerenveen now. If we make a change, I want someone with experience and prior success, someone who doesn't always have to run to Tassotti for help when needed.

@Zeddie, sorry but to say we need a change with Tassotti isn't just coldhearted, it's pointless and makes no sense. Bayern and most of the great teams always hang on to their coaching stuff. The intelligent defensive stuff comes from Tassotti as well - just think of Abate and the work he's done with him. No, no, no, this would be a grave mistake.


+1 I'm not pro-allegri,but this is how I see it.Even,if you don't like Allegri at all,he's still a better option atm.


http://www.sendspace.com/file/s47245
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 05:59 PM) *
And we could have easily offered him a three-year deal if Allegri wanted to. That was just a poor excuse for them to get him the f@ck outta here.


On 6m a season? Let's be serious, he didn't play much in his final season and we won the title. And when he did all he seemed to do was launch long bombs to the forward players. I don't think he was worth keeping.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 9 2012, 09:47 PM) *
@Zeddie, sorry but to say we need a change with Tassotti isn't just coldhearted, it's pointless and makes no sense. Bayern and most of the great teams always hang on to their coaching stuff. The intelligent defensive stuff comes from Tassotti as well - just think of Abate and the work he's done with him. No, no, no, this would be a grave mistake.

I don't think there's anything coldhearted about wanting to see a completely new coaching staff someday. I'm not saying he's at fault or anything, but sometimes new personnel with different personality/mentality can change a lot of things within a club. I'm surprised you fail to acknowledge that. remember when everyone used to say our players and Carlo had become too friendly with each other and that held us back?
Zed.D
X-Off, why are you so stubborn? Pirlo left clearly because of contract issues not because Allegri kicked him out. I realize you hate the guy's guts and want to associate him with every single bad thing that happens to this club, but it's obvious in this case what happened.
X-Offender
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 9 2012, 07:12 PM) *
The thing is, in very little time Allegri has brought us back to the search for top. He has won us a league already and we can possibly win a next one still. Apart from our recent poor set of results and his most recent selection fail, overall he has done good. We can't keep on saying he likes strength over skill so because of that he is better suited for a small club coach; the fact is he is a couple good signings away from having a very good team, at which point we can then properly assess things and look to make judgement afterwards.

Why give him the axe now, to start over yet again? We are can already just continue to heading in the right direction with proper reinforcements & correct player departures.

So to summarize, his first season we got the long awaited Serie A title, 2nd season we are still challenging for it up to the end (and could possibly win it) - If it wasn't for an unexplained number of injuries & unfortunate reffing errors, we could have still been ahead in Serie A, and possibly in the CL Semis. Not to mention that we had an fair showing in the CL (progression-wise) despite coming up against the undoubtedly best club in the world at them moment (4 times).

The guy clearly deserves another season. I think the best is yet to come.


Back to the top? What's that supposed to mean? He won us the scudetto last season, when we practically had no opposition to face. Even a n00b would have been able to accomplish that, having to rely on Ibrahimovic all the time. Don't forget we got kicked out of Europe by frigging Tottenham! And let's not talk about the Arsenal debacle this season that nearly led to one of the greatest humiliations in our recent history. His dodgy decisions lost us the lead in the league, and now we might finish the season empty handed. How exactly does that translate into success? But most of all, the way we play under this guy is plain repulsive to my eyes. He's not and he'll never be a Milan-quality coach.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 10:38 PM) *
X-Off, why are you so stubborn? Pirlo left clearly because of contract issues not because Allegri kicked him out. I realize you hate the guy's guts and want to associate him with every single bad thing that happens to this club, but it's obvious in this case what happened.


No, for me Allegri was the main reason why Pirlo decided to leave. The contract was merely a pretext for us to offload him. Allegri didn't consider Pirlo capable enough to play in front of the defense. He wanted a classic DM in that position, which he first tried with Ambrosini and later with van Bommel after we signed him. Pirlo played the majority of games under Allegri as LCM, which was later covered by Seedorf. That's not his position, but Allegri had already decided on the formation. That's why Pirlo said he had decided to sign for Juventus since February. The issue of the contracts was not even discussed back then.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 10:36 PM) *
I don't think there's anything coldhearted about wanting to see a completely new coaching staff someday. I'm not saying he's at fault or anything, but sometimes new personnel with different personality/mentality can change a lot of things within a club. I'm surprised you fail to acknowledge that. remember when everyone used to say our players and Carlo had become too friendly with each other and that held us back?

Sometimes yes, but this doesn't make sense. He's an excellent assistant coach who's crucial for the development of Abate and any new fullback a bit younger or less experienced. There's no need for a rush and sudden change: as said, big clubs don't usually change their assistant staff if it's working. And I don't see any signal! Tassotti isn't especially friendly with the team, he's much more introverted then Careletto (who's also introverted but differently) and even if he is friendly?? The coach must make a distance, the assistant has to bind the team and the coach. I think Mauro is doing a brilliant job as a bridge builder.


QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 10:38 PM) *
X-Off, why are you so stubborn? Pirlo left clearly because of contract issues not because Allegri kicked him out. I realize you hate the guy's guts and want to associate him with every single bad thing that happens to this club, but it's obvious in this case what happened.

No, I agree with X-O completely. It is tied, how can you separate those things? It doesn't have to do with hate -- I think everyone at Milan looked at Pirlo in a different way then at Inzaghi, Ambrosini, Gattuso or any of the 30+. Allegri was the one who convinced Galliani Milan can and will function without Andrea, and that's why we didn't consider his contract extension as a top priority.
acid911
I still think had we not signed players like Ibra and friends, we'd have finished 3rd or lower again. sleep.gif Allegri has got little to do with our success, except for the fact that he did not do anything major stupid. Decent tactics yes, but had he the same players Leo had in his year here, we'd have gotten no where. So in that regard he's lucky.

And in that regard, he is unlucky too. The management knows that they bought him new toys, and wants bigger results and higher ambitions. What they don't know is that this season our team has been decimated, cell by human cell. I actually give Allegri more credit for this season than last years. unsure.gif Regardless, I want a Scudetto.
Jack Sparrow
No MvB for me.

X-Off....I understand what you're saying about philosophy and I agree, but in that case I'd like to put a few new names into the hat:

- Spalletti
- Montella
- Lucien Favre
- Rijkaard

---in that order.
William405
I'd give Allegri another season,and if it doesn't work..I'd bring Montella in if he's still doing his magic with Catania.
Fillipo Simone
I don't get the sentiment for experiment. Ain't you guys sick and tired of coaches who've never lead a team to a big success? In the early 2000's even Ancelotti was taken as a gamble, and he had trophies already won. I know Milan has a rich tradition of inventing coaches, but I think if we move on from Allegri it has to be someone with reputation, someone with prior achievements. Spalletti IMO is the upgraded version of Ranieri, good or even very good but never there to make the final mile. Montella still has much to learn. Favre is one of my favorites in Germany, but he's the ideal small club coach and his tactics might appear too defensively oriented.

As said before, I'd take don Fabio, Lippi or Rijkaard. If we wanna play with new names, let's give Billy a shot.
acid911
Forget the two guys that end with the letter Y (Billy and Lippy). Fabio or Rijkaard for me. sleep.gif If someone in the management has a taste of adventure, I'd much rather keep Allegri, with all his glaring shortcomings. Because we all know, fairy tales don't work in a club of our stature - the stakes are far too high!
X-Offender
Capello would demand a huge salary, so I don't think we'd take him. Anyway, I didn't know Rijkaard is the head coach of Saudi Arabia. They must be paying him in gold, so I really can't see us bringing him either. We've always opted for the cheap solution.
acid911
I don't know man, I'd pay anything Fabio wants. unsure.gif Anything. With him on board, and a few good singings, we could be CL winning material very soon. We have the best defender in the world with us, and a potent enough attack, plus a dynamic (if uncreative) midfield. Just a few good men, and an experienced coach like him!
il_diavolo_mtl
Agree with the spaletti name-drop, he is truly an amazing coach!!
albanche
I would definitely go with Tassoti. He has been there for almost 10 years now and knows every in and out of the team. Promote him, I believe he will succeed, as every time Allegri asked Tassoti's opinion the team changed for good and won games.
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