I didn't mean that and you know it. What I meant was that carlo would never admit he was wrong while Allegri did and credit to him for doing so.

I don't think so. I mean Ambro is a bit like Arsenal's old Gilberto in the way he carries himself. He looks to be all legs and like the ball is getting away from him. Not an elegant footballer by any means. But I actually trust him quite a lot. He is one of those super streetsmart footballers. I think with more playing time and more confidence from the coach he can be magnificent in the centre of the park again.

His best season in recent years was under Leo..and he was consistently fit to play during that time. Unlike Rino his play has not really depended on physicality..just really incredible coverage of space. And I think after Nesta, he is THE master of the tactical foul in this Milan lineup. You might pull out your hair thinking he's gonna get carded and sent off, but he's too smart for that and it very rarely happens. Whereas with Boateng, I would almost always worry.

He didn't admit he was wrong though did he?

He just said that Urby was good at LB, yet still insisted that he can play behind the strikers, which is a load of BS and we all know it

What's your point? Emanuelson is a winger as well.
Nope, Carlo played Serginho sometimes as a SS or AM. Rarely and in dire situations, but he did.


Yet he provided the assist. Which makes him less bad. But seriously, let's end this, it's like a broken record.

Where is Gilberto now jack?

Ambro just doesn't have the legs anymore, he looks incredibly clumsy and could have cost us on more than one occasion when he lost the ball.

Yes his best season came under Leo, but he's not eternal, and he's plumetted big time in these past few years.

Of all the coaches I've watched recently, I think Carlo and Ranieri are the hardest to get a grip on (among the big clubs). It's amazing how with a swish of their arms/snap of their fingers, the whole team seems to change yet with the same players.

Now I see Mancini doing something similar with Man City..and I'm loving this cerebral approach to football. I never really rated Mancini, but he has truly impressed me this season.

Well, that's simply untrue, I remember quite a few times Carletto admitting his mistake(s).

Urby had played at LB for a long time at Ajax, sure he's considered as a wide player in the looser sense of the word but he's not the type of winger Serginho was. As well as that, you said it yourself, only in very dire situations was Serginho used in such situations. Allegri had 3 other options instead of Urby, 4 options in the derby, yet he continued to insist on him even if it has been proven as a failure time and time again

He made the assist yes, in fact I praised him big time for it if you wish to look back a couple of pages when Ibra scored that goal. He did very well in spotting Ibra and crossing him the ball. But his job isn't really to assist, what he did was fumble around the pitch. Our midfield wasn't terrible because of him, I never implied that, our midfield was bad because Allegri stuch 3 DMs in there and a LB (). I was looking at his performance, and along with Urby, he was one of our worst players in that first half

Grêmio

One last thing: I think you're trying to hard to make Ambro appear horrible. Yes, clearly he isn't the WC DM he once was. But you're over-analyzing his every move; do the same to every Milan midfielder and you'll drag the same conclusions as for Ambro, only the "don't appear clumsy".

Not trying too hard, I know I'll never convince you otherwise, he can probably crawl around the pitch and people here would still excuse him.

I'm just frustrated when I see Ambro bumbling around the pitch like someone who is just clueless, especially when we have 2 other DMs already on the pitch and someone who can really move the ball around like Seedorf on the bench

Who got the assists today, by the way?

Ambro and El Sha.

t was more rhetoricalin response to han's rant, but thanks anyway.

I praised Ambro for the only good thing he managed to do in 90 minutes

Here is my Ambro praising qoute. Frame it if you must


Oh and this is good old Danny's post, and he clearly was seeing what I saw without the tinted glasses when it comes to Ambro's performance today

"goold old" Danny. What a kiss ***.

^^^ That was a joke right?

Yes.

Serginho was a truly unique player....but he was never put at CAM as far as I remember. LCAM perhaps but never THE trequartista, #10 whatever. Also Serginho at one point was listed as a forward on acmilan.com....wonder if Galliani had anything to do with that

He put Urby into the left back position and effectively said he was better there which IMO is as good as admitting he was wrong:



I can't see where he's 'insisting' that Urby can play behind the strikers? All I can see him say is that Urby is an important player in whatever position he plays.

I just wanna say how incredibly immense Thiago Silva is

I saw him SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROY so many attacks it was simply amazing. At one point he got tired of having to put out so many fires on his own and yelled at the rest of the defense....but they deserved it

The best thing is that he's not a John Terry defender who simply clears the ball away. Quite often he takes the ball himself and plays it out of defense....just like Nesta and good 'ol Paolo. I love the guy!!!!

For me this bit, which you pointed out yourself clearly shows that he's not admitting to anything. Saying he's better at LB, even a blind man could see that. But yet, he's still insisting that Urby can play basically anywhere for us.

We'll see in future games if Allegri has admitted to anything or not, because if he plays him behind the strikers again then clearly he's still being stubborn about the issue, even after saying that Urby is better at LB

Can't help digging myself deeper and deeper. But...all in all, you say Ambrosini was dreadful because he looked clumsy and made errors. I think you're too focused to find the negative, so you singled out all his errors, disregarding all his small accomplishments. It's almost laughable to say the only good thing he done was the assist.

If you ask me, Ambrosini was okay, he made some errors and also some good things, but the assist all in all makes his performance "good". That's the bottom line for me.

I don't think an offensive idea fully pardons a whole 90 minutes of sloppy defensive play. If we were talking about a fwd or even an attacking midfielder, i could agree your argument. In my opinion, people who think playing the reckless captain over a player who can actually sharpen his talents is holding him to such low expectations, they will never be displeased. In this bubble, one assist may seemingly outweigh all defensive responsibilities (for a dm, mind you), when in reality, we cannot keep handicapping ourselves with these players, the pressure is just soo much higher for the only players to perform as the likes of Ambro, outside of flirting with double bookings, won't achieve a whole lot... With E-man struggling out of position, there was no service. In this lack of service, we basically had 3 Dms and a LB cycling the ball. When our most competently mid is Nocerino who is the only one capable of running into dangerous positions (of this midfield 4) we are in trouble.

Considering that Van bommel is unquestionably our best/most natural CDM, E-man was always going to be subbed and Nocerino was covering for the all-out attacking Antonini on the left. It is awful that we actually start Ambrosini there. I would rather have Urby/Merkel/Galiiani then a static Ambrosini. I can not remember a worst lineup from Allegri, and with us foreseeably matching up against arsenal i do not thing we will stand a chance in hell if, instead of playing Genoa's best mid for the first half of the season or even E-man, we select Ambro...

I'm an Allegri supporter but he needs to start acting like he signed that extension and not play the bronze statues out of fear of getting sacked. If he is to succeed at Milan for many years, will it be in thanks to the Ambros of this squad or the Merkels? It really pisses me off, because in cases like this starting 11, i don't know if he faces obstructionism from the board or if these are actually his preferred players all things considered... In cagliari, he gave many young players chances over the older ones and coached players into the NT setup, along with giving minutes to the prospects.

We can say he wasn't that bad because all in all, he did get that great assist, but were it not for the 2 WC CBs behind him, his defending could have cost us dearly were it not against the ever-powerful Novara

An assist excuses a bad performance? This is news for me.

And why should I overlook all the bad and try to coat over a bad performance from a player who by some is still viewed as a good backup option for us?

Bottom line for me is that Ambro is no longer a dependable second choice for us, simply because he cannot keep up with the likes of Novara anymore, let alone any top team, which could become the case on many occasion du to the injury troubles we constantly keep having. No, we need someone dependable, imo, best thing for the DM position is to bring in someone new and convince VB to renew for another year. Other than that Ambro shouldn't be an option anymore unless it's Coppa Italia

even then, i'd most like to at least stand a chance in the Coppa

Didn't say it though


Also, I didn't say that as well. But you overlook the simple small tackles he accomplished and the actions he cut off.

But let's stop, it's becoming incredibly boring.

I thought we had a Coppa game tonight?

On Thursday.

Rodney Strasser?? anyone with me on this? It's annoying the way Milan and Italy in general overlooks upcoming players using the "he-is-not-ready-for-top-flight-we-do-not-want-to-destroy-his-confidence" crap of an excuse..

Strasser is not ready to be our first choice DM. Maybe bring him in to be another option aside from VB for rotation and injuries, but certainly not the starting DM.

Lassana Diarra or De Rossi would be my first picks

I don't get why people rate Lass Diarra. To me, he's nothing but average.

agreed, i'd honestly prefer to play Strasser then go through an endless signing saga for someone like Diarra, he's good but not worth the trouble...

I think you're being a little kind calling him 'average'.

Strasser should be our backup DM next season, I see him more as an Ambro replacement than VB's.

Yes, absolutely.

I'd love to have him as 2nd CDM, especially if we keep MVB. MVB won't be able to play every game and Strasser can learn under one of the best CDMs in world football over the past 10 years. Let's face it, we all want De Rossi, but i doubt he will leave Roma if they make the CL, which is looking increasingly possible. Knock on wood, the roma experiment finally seems to be gaining momentum, which is great news for our league I honestly beleive Strasser can and will become our starting CDM in 2-3 years time. I'm tickled pink by the idea that, with patience, technical abilty and a bit of Grinta, any of our primavera players will get chances to play under Allegr, once the exodus of our bronze statues retire. I do want us to have a smaller squad with a particular attention paid to the primavera.


i'm leaving out Zigoni, Valoti, Aubemayang, Filkor, Novinic, Ghiringelli (spl?)

We can no longer afford to buy WC players at every position, heading into the most transitional summer i can remember, the kids will have to step it up, because they will have a reasonable expectation to join the first team. I may sound a tad too optimistically over-progressive, but i do believe in starting youth only on merit. We must adapt a more self-sustainable way to build our team.