acid911
Oct 15 2011, 10:49 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 16 2011, 02:26 AM)
Looking at the match pictures on FB, the ref dropped his card and MVB picked it up and sent him off hehe, they laughed about it afterwards...
Pics or it didn't happen!
Yeah, I'm too lazy to dig them up on Facebook.
X-Offender
Oct 15 2011, 10:52 PM
GOOD NEWS! According to Milan Channel, Thiago suffered only a lenient contusion and might even be available for BATE.
TriniKing_CE
Oct 15 2011, 11:26 PM
QUOTE
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 15 2011, 05:26 PM)
Looking at the match pictures on FB, the ref dropped his card and MVB picked it up and sent him off hehe, they laughed about it afterwards...
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 15 2011, 05:49 PM)
Pics or it didn't happen!
Yeah, I'm too lazy to dig them up on Facebook.
TriniKing_CE
Oct 15 2011, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 15 2011, 04:56 PM)
This was by far our best game in the season, so far. We had the game at hand for the whole 90 minutes. Ball possession was 38 mins. - 14 mins. and shots on goal were 10-0, both in our favor, of course. But beyond numbers, I wanted to mention that Allegri did surprise me this time, positively. He played Nocerino on the left, the role he covered at Palermo, and opted for his insertions a lot during the game, which led to the first goal and many other occasions. It is exactly the role Boateng should cover. Aquilani played on the right with many times centering alongside Van Bommel to organize the game. Abate and Antonini pushed a lot and were effective. We played some fluid and quick football. The midfielders were constantly pressing Palermo's players, and Ibra-Robi-Cassano were on super form. Only negative note was Thiago's injury. Hopefully it's nothing serious.
FORZA MILAN!!!
Agreed. (
See Sig...)
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 15 2011, 05:08 PM)
Crisis? what crisis?
acid911
Oct 15 2011, 11:45 PM
Cheers, Trini.
You're a life saver. Nice to see the lighter side of the game and the referee.
Jack Bauer
Oct 16 2011, 01:35 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2011, 01:52 AM)
GOOD NEWS! According to Milan Channel, Thiago suffered only a lenient contusion and might even be available for BATE.
Though I hope he'd get some rest in the midweek, he played a lot of games lately. Can be nice to finally see Mexes in action.
X-Offender
Oct 16 2011, 03:35 AM
han2503
Oct 16 2011, 10:37 AM
Well we had a power outage last night, everything went black for me after the Nocerino goal. Glad to see we played well aside from the great result.
Good news about Thiago's injury. I still want to see Mexes in the CL this week, give Thiago proper time to heal and get Mexes back into shape
amancik
Oct 16 2011, 10:54 AM
One thing I'm proud about this Milan team is that we fielded Cassano, Aquilani, Nocerino, Abate, Antonini, Abbiati and Nesta in our starting line-up. That's 7 Italians.
X-Offender
Oct 16 2011, 01:57 PM
Seedorf should be available for BATE, but I want the seam line-up of Palermo to play. Same for Pato, if he's fit.
CHU-LIP
Oct 16 2011, 02:25 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2011, 02:57 PM)
Seedorf should be available for BATE, but I want the seam line-up of Palermo to play. Same for Pato, if he's fit.
Yes , except Seedorf should play instead of Van Bommel, he needs the rest. Plays every time, also 180 minutes for NT recently.
d'Arc.LP
Oct 16 2011, 02:32 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 16 2011, 03:25 PM)
Yes , except Seedorf should play instead of Van Bommel, he needs the rest. Plays every time, also 180 minutes for NT recently.
Ambrosini will be available to play against BATE too. I think he should be the one replacing Van Bomel.
William405
Oct 16 2011, 03:16 PM
So,no praises for Allegri.When he got the game wrong against Juve,everyone seemed to love attacking him
.Just saying give credit when it's due.He learned from his mistakes,fielded in a young team and made it work.
X-Offender
Oct 16 2011, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 16 2011, 04:16 PM)
So,no praises for Allegri.When he got the game wrong against Juve,everyone seemed to love attacking him
.Just saying give credit when it's due.He learned from his mistakes,fielded in a young team and made it work.
I did give him credit this time, read my previous post.
Milan Are Brilliant
Oct 16 2011, 03:52 PM
Yeah, I gave him credit too (page or so back). Saying that I wasn't on his back too much either.
William405
Oct 16 2011, 04:34 PM
Cool
I was kinda tired when I was reading all of those posts(came back from turkey ;D)
Jack Sparrow
Oct 17 2011, 07:18 AM
I think he got the Nocerino position right. I finally see something useful in Nocerino..more than anything I've seen from Flamini.
Still not convinced about our 3-man midfield...
CHU-LIP
Oct 17 2011, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2011, 08:18 AM)
I think he got the Nocerino position right. I finally see something useful in Nocerino..more than anything I've seen from Flamini.
Finally...
It made no sense to keep playing Nocerino RCM and Aquilani LCM while both are better at the other side. Nocerino himself said he prefers LCM recently, maybe that woke Allegri up.
During the same match Robinho came back, and the midfielders/team was set the right way, and then you see a huge difference. This should be a nice twist and the start of better times.
Fillipo Simone
Oct 17 2011, 09:11 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2011, 08:18 AM)
I think he got the Nocerino position right. I finally see something useful in Nocerino..more than anything I've seen from Flamini.
Still not convinced about our 3-man midfield...
Yeah, me neither. I mean, Palermo hardly did anything, and every single of their small efforts went out futile because they were doing exactly what Milan wanted them to do. That's called an inexperienced coach...
Jack Sparrow
Oct 17 2011, 09:27 AM
Yes....the 3-man midfield to be truly unbeatable requires monster fullbacks. To be top notch it still requires at least one world class proven fullback.
Seeing as we don't have it, we need alternatives. Right now outside of our fullbacks if we're choked with 5 opponents in the centre mid-field we have no choice but to hoof it to Ibra and hope something happens...
CHU-LIP
Oct 17 2011, 09:35 AM
The three man midfield only works if the midfielders are preforming well. How they were set against Palermo made that possible. And also the forwards needs to have a lot of work rate, especially Robinho got that, but Zlatan too. With the players used against Palermo it is possible to have a 3 man midfield.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 17 2011, 10:10 AM
Possible....I'll wait for further proof though. I personally feel we need to experiment more with a 4-2-3-1 formation
han2503
Oct 17 2011, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2011, 10:10 AM)
Possible....I'll wait for further proof though. I personally feel we need to experiment more with a 4-2-3-1 formation
I really don't get the 4-2-3-1 talk, we just don't have the players for that kind of set-up
Jack Sparrow
Oct 17 2011, 12:09 PM
Hmm...
-------------------------Ibra/Pippo-----------------------
--------Robinho/Urby---------Aqui/Ibra/Cassano------Aquilani/Urby/Robinho----
----MvB/Ambro/Rino---Nocerino/Flamini---
While they're not exactly wingers, we do have players to play in the advanced three behind the striker who can stretch the passing, run into the box and also play in the striker. I prefer this to our closed pyramid structure, which puts pressure on just one player to link the mid-field with attack.
kurtsimonw
Oct 17 2011, 12:17 PM
I'd like that also, but it just won't happen. Max would get sacked for not playing 4-3-1-2.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 17 2011, 12:31 PM
Nah..this change is just tactical.
As long as all the players are in there...Berlusca doesn't mind. We have no superstars except Ibra and fortunately for us, he likes to work hard in attack...so he's happy as a primo punta or an SS as long as play comes to him.
Galliani could then brag about us having 4 attackers. Our holding mids would have to work like dogs though. Only problem with this.
han2503
Oct 17 2011, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2011, 11:09 AM)
Hmm...
-------------------------Ibra/Pippo-----------------------
--------Robinho/Urby---------Aqui/Ibra/Cassano------Aquilani/Urby/Robinho----
----MvB/Ambro/Rino---Nocerino/Flamini---
While they're not exactly wingers, we do have players to play in the advanced three behind the striker who can stretch the passing, run into the box and also play in the striker. I prefer this to our closed pyramid structure, which puts pressure on just one player to link the mid-field with attack.
For me only Robinho can play in those wide areas. Pato has the speed but it would be such a waste, back to the Leo system with Pato on the wings.
While the only DM capable of playing that position is VB and maybe Ambro (but he's been so poor lately, we cannot play him as a starter) Nocerino, Flamini and Rino are not those types of holding mids and wouldn't be able to pull off that position
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 17 2011, 03:35 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2011, 08:25 AM)
For me only Robinho can play in those wide areas. Pato has the speed but it would be such a waste, back to the Leo system with Pato on the wings.
While the only DM capable of playing that position is VB and maybe Ambro (but he's been so poor lately, we cannot play him as a starter) Nocerino, Flamini and Rino are not those types of holding mids and wouldn't be able to pull off that position
I do see strasser in that role alot more next year. I say he should get a decent look in pre-season with the first team as i think he has alot of quality and composure, without the looney carelessness of say Ambro/Rino. i mean next year we should be able to see MVB pass the torch to strasser, if not at the beginning of the year then throughout the season.
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 17 2011, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2011, 07:09 AM)
Hmm...
-------------------------Ibra/Pippo-----------------------
--------Robinho/Urby---------Aqui/Ibra/Cassano------Aquilani/Urby/Robinho----
----MvB/Ambro/Rino---Nocerino/Flamini---
While they're not exactly wingers, we do have players to play in the advanced three behind the striker who can stretch the passing, run into the box and also play in the striker. I prefer this to our closed pyramid structure, which puts pressure on just one player to link the mid-field with attack.
I'd actually go with this if we went 4-2-3-1
Pato
Robi - Ibra - Cassano
Nocerino - MVB
Fillipo Simone
Oct 17 2011, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2011, 02:25 PM)
For me only Robinho can play in those wide areas. Pato has the speed but it would be such a waste, back to the Leo system with Pato on the wings.
While the only DM capable of playing that position is VB and maybe Ambro (but he's been so poor lately, we cannot play him as a starter) Nocerino, Flamini and Rino are not those types of holding mids and wouldn't be able to pull off that position
Yep, I'm with you on this one. I don't see it as a possibility - too many dispositioned players.
CHU-LIP
Oct 17 2011, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 17 2011, 01:09 PM)
Hmm...
-------------------------Ibra/Pippo-----------------------
--------Robinho/Urby---------Aqui/Ibra/Cassano------Aquilani/Urby/Robinho----
----MvB/Ambro/Rino---Nocerino/Flamini---
While they're not exactly wingers, we do have players to play in the advanced three behind the striker who can stretch the passing, run into the box and also play in the striker. I prefer this to our closed pyramid structure, which puts pressure on just one player to link the mid-field with attack.
That's only really possible if you do something like: Urby LW, Aquilani AM, Robinho RW, and Pato as ST, and that's simply a waste, because now you have no Ibrahimovic, no Cassano, but Emanuelson instead.. makes us weaker, a lot.. so I simply agree we don't have the players for that.
Rossoneri7
Oct 17 2011, 09:28 PM
And who said a formation is to be followed as strict as a ruler during the course of a 90 minute game? We can play the 2-3-1, the 3-3 and the 3-1-2 in a single match .. We have the players to make it happen, only they have to be fit to participate.
X-Offender
Oct 18 2011, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 17 2011, 10:35 AM)
The three man midfield only works if the midfielders are preforming well. How they were set against Palermo made that possible. And also the forwards needs to have a lot of work rate, especially Robinho got that, but Zlatan too. With the players used against Palermo it is possible to have a 3 man midfield.
Yup, that's it. A three-man midfield is no problem if the actors are right.
arivanjj
Oct 18 2011, 12:55 PM
wow genuine interest. haha
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