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Jack Sparrow
This is stupid. I don't agree with this. I fear the principles of the club are being held to ransom, and I'm pissed off as hell at Galliani for encouraging this.

Say you were provoked and that you made a mistake. That's what Ibra did. This just makes him sound like he'll do it again, if the chance were to come.
amancik
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 29 2012, 03:36 AM) *
This is stupid. I don't agree with this. I fear the principles of the club are being held to ransom, and I'm pissed off as hell at Galliani for encouraging this.

Say you were provoked and that you made a mistake. That's what Ibra did. This just makes him sound like he'll do it again, if the chance were to come.


True, this is getting beyond acceptable for a club like Milan.
X-Offender
Wrong thread.
d'Arc.LP
Mexes: "I want to apologize to Borriello and to my teammates, who have to play the next 3 Serie A matches without me."
Zed.D
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Mexes denies Milan row
By Football Italia staff

Philippe Mexes insists “it hurts to read reports I want to leave Milan or had a fight with the Coach, as none of it is true.”

The defender is one of several players who could be sold over the summer and was recently rumoured to have joined Clarence Seedorf in a locker room argument with Massimiliano Allegri.

“It hurts to read reports I want to leave Milan or had a fight with the Coach, as none of it is true,” he told Milan Channel.

“After the knee injury it was not easy to get back on to the field, but now I want to get back to my usual levels.”

The Rossoneri are one point shy of Serie A leaders Juventus going into Sunday night’s derby with Inter.

“We did not expect to face the derby with only a one-point gap from Juve, as we didn’t see their draw with Lecce coming. Now we must believe to the end.

“We must win our remaining two games and hope for another slip-up from the Bianconeri. Thankfully the injury list is shrinking now and everyone will give their all.”


I wonder what now for the conspiracy theorists of Milan Fan innocent.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 5 2012, 08:11 AM) *
I wonder what now for the conspiracy theorists of Milan Fan innocent.gif

There's never smoke without fire wink.gif

There is a reason why Allegri is content playing Yepes and Bonera as the dynamic duo in defence while Mexes is on the bench wink.gif
Zed.D
You never disappoint, han biggrin.gif

Last time I checked Mexes-Nesta was our CB and I'm willing to bet it'll be the same for the derby unless Silva makes it fully fit.
han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 5 2012, 08:23 AM) *
You never disappoint, han biggrin.gif

Last time I checked Mexes-Nesta was our CB and I'm willing to bet it'll be the same for the derby unless Silva makes it fully fit.

Does 1 game really mean anything? The ones before it Mexes was always on the bench, or not even called up when there was no injury even reported

Yes sure, Allegri isn't stupid enough to not start his best possible duo at this point. When everything hinges on these last 2 games, but you canot say that he's done this in every game lately. In fact he's let outside issues effect his decisions in practically every game since that Arsenal away leg, and that when things started to unravel for us.
Zed.D
He said the players he dropped must get back in shape and the way Mexes and Robinho played against Atalanata assures me his approach did work well.

If everything he does accorded with your or my desires, we would be coaching Milan! don't ever think that I'm 100% OK with his decisions, no. I think he could do a better job handling Pato in these two seasons but you don't see me complaining about it every day. and you know how big a Pato fan I am... I've come to accept most of his decisions. because we won a league after ages with his decisions and might as well win another one (not very convincingly if it happens this time but then again I believe injuries is the real reason we're not champions already).

As for Muntari playing poorly every game, I've said this many times, there's something fishy about it. I still stand by my theory that Muntari was guaranteed that at Milan he'd not be a bench warmer he was at Inter. think about it, works for all three parties. we got a player for free plus his salary, Inter got rid of him, and Muntari gets to play regular football. if that's really the case there's not much Allegri can do other than put his trust in Muntari. and as bad as he's been for the most part, he's scored some important goals for us, let's give him that much credit.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 5 2012, 12:13 PM) *
He said the players he dropped must get back in shape and the way Mexes and Robinho played against Atalanata assures me his approach did work well.

If everything he does accorded with your or my desires, we would be coaching Milan! don't ever think that I'm 100% OK with his decisions, no. I think he could do a better job handling Pato in these two seasons but you don't see me complaining about it every day. and you know how big a Pato fan I am... I've come to accept most of his decisions. because we won a league after ages with his decisions and might as well win another one (not very convincingly if it happens this time but then again I believe injuries is the real reason we're not champions already).

As for Muntari playing poorly every game, I've said this many times, there's something fishy about it. I still stand by my theory that Muntari was guaranteed that at Milan he'd not be a bench warmer he was at Inter. think about it, works for all three parties. we got a player for free plus his salary, Inter got rid of him, and Muntari gets to play regular football. if that's really the case there's not much Allegri can do other than put his trust in Muntari. and as bad as he's been for the most part, he's scored some important goals for us, let's give him that much credit.


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han2503
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 5 2012, 09:13 AM) *
He said the players he dropped must get back in shape and the way Mexes and Robinho played against Atalanata assures me his approach did work well.

If everything he does accorded with your or my desires, we would be coaching Milan! don't ever think that I'm 100% OK with his decisions, no. I think he could do a better job handling Pato in these two seasons but you don't see me complaining about it every day. and you know how big a Pato fan I am... I've come to accept most of his decisions. because we won a league after ages with his decisions and might as well win another one (not very convincingly if it happens this time but then again I believe injuries is the real reason we're not champions already).

As for Muntari playing poorly every game, I've said this many times, there's something fishy about it. I still stand by my theory that Muntari was guaranteed that at Milan he'd not be a bench warmer he was at Inter. think about it, works for all three parties. we got a player for free plus his salary, Inter got rid of him, and Muntari gets to play regular football. if that's really the case there's not much Allegri can do other than put his trust in Muntari. and as bad as he's been for the most part, he's scored some important goals for us, let's give him that much credit.

Lol, if he dropped these players because they're playing poorly than he could have done the same to countless of other players on this team who usually get a free pass with him no matter what BS they pull off during each game

I also don't buy that theory for a second. Why would we condition ourselves to playing him in each game? And how does it benefit Inter whether we play him or not? Your logic on this doesn't make any sense. Why would Allegri accept such a deal, he's shown in the past that he's very stubborn and if he doesn't want someone he'll do everything to push them out. Yet according to you he was willing to accept not only a player on his roster, but to always ensure him a starting position?? Just doesn't make any sense.

I said this even before we signed him, that he's exactly the type of player Allegri loves, no brain all muscle rolleyes.gif Allegri is playing him constantly because he wants to, no one is twisting his arm to do so, I can assure you this. Just like he always played Urby behind the strikers because he wanted to, even if he had far more logical options than to play a left wingback/winger as the AM.

I gues we'll know if your theory is correct if we end up signing him permanently next season and we end up stuck with him as a permanent fixture in our 11 next season due to Allegri's unconditional love for him innocent.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 6 2012, 10:55 AM) *
I gues we'll know if your theory is correct if we end up signing him permanently next season and we end up stuck with him as a permanent fixture in our 11 next season due to Allegri's unconditional love for him innocent.gif


If that happens, I swear I'll execute Allegri myself.
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 6 2012, 12:25 PM) *
Lol, if he dropped these players because they're playing poorly than he could have done the same to countless of other players on this team who usually get a free pass with him no matter what BS they pull off during each game

Han the exaggerator! king.gif who are those COUNTLESS other players? give me their names!!

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I also don't buy that theory for a second. Why would we condition ourselves to playing him in each game? And how does it benefit Inter whether we play him or not? Your logic on this doesn't make any sense. Why would Allegri accept such a deal, he's shown in the past that he's very stubborn and if he doesn't want someone he'll do everything to push them out. Yet according to you he was willing to accept not only a player on his roster, but to always ensure him a starting position?? Just doesn't make any sense.

Why would they hand him over to us completely free? just give me a reason that makes sense. and please no "Galliani and Branca scratched each other's back" which makes even less sense than my theory!

To answer your question, we did not know how Muntari would turn out for us. Galliani got him hoping he'd turn out another [name of ex-Interista with a miserable life at Inter signed by Milan and revived] and to be honest, I'm not sure Galliani thinks Muntari is as terrible as you and some others here think he is. if he indeed does, he won't sign him permanently.

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I said this even before we signed him, that he's exactly the type of player Allegri loves, no brain all muscle

Quite like Cassano or Prince - both no brain all muscle. talk about not making any sense...

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I gues we'll know if your theory is correct if we end up signing him permanently next season and we end up stuck with him as a permanent fixture in our 11 next season due to Allegri's unconditional love for him

You can bookmark this page tongue.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 6 2012, 09:56 AM) *
If that happens, I swear I'll execute Allegri myself.

Here are the facts

He'll become free next summer
Allegri loves him
Galliani loves freebies

1+1=2
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 6 2012, 12:25 PM) *
Here are the facts

He'll become free next summer
Allegri loves him
Galliani loves freebies

1+1=2


No, I mean if becomes a starter next season. I have no doubt that we'll sign him permanently, but he should be nothing more than a sub.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 6 2012, 11:33 AM) *
No, I mean if becomes a starter next season. I have no doubt that we'll sign him permanently, but he should be nothing more than a sub.

The reason why we'll sign him is because Allegri wants him. That was my initial point. And if he wants him it's because he wants to play him. Muntari perfectly suites Allegri's vision for an ideal system. rolleyes.gif
X-Offender
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Milan, I'm back!

After this afternoon's friendly between the first team and the Primavera, Philippe Mexes spoke to the gathered journalists. It was a chance to talk about his fitness as well as his future:

"I feel good, the international break will be useful for me to continue working. I need a bit of time to play. At the start of this afternoon's game, I found it a bit tough. But finally I can see some light at the end of the tunnel, thank goodness as I couldn't stand it being on the outside looking in. I need a couple of games to get back to 100%."


"The important thing for me is to be here at Milan. It wasn't the happiest of summers even though the birth of daughter brought some smiles to my face. It wasn't easy being here training twice a day and hearing all the market rumors. I never asked to leave the club. Now I'm back and I want to show the fans that I'm here to stay. I just want to work on getting back as quickly as possible."

www.acmilan.com


He talks as if he's been out for months due to injury or something. WTF?! He was alive and kicking in the Euros, what the hell happened to him during summer vacations?
Jack Bauer
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 6 2012, 10:46 PM) *
He talks as if he's been out for months due to injury or something. WTF?! He was alive and kicking in the Euros, what the hell happened to him during summer vacations?

From what I understand it was a mix of returning from the break in a bad shape and some knee problem.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 6 2012, 07:58 PM) *
From what I understand it was a mix of returning from the break in a bad shape and some knee problem.

Yeah, I've watched a couple of training vids on youtube and he's always got a strap on his knee. It's most likely the knee he injured while at Roma. An injury of that sort could plague him for the rest of his carreer as we've seen with other players before
Fillipo Simone
Like Nesta.

Anyway, under these circumstances, he'll be a important link in our defense.
Jack Sparrow
Well that figures. A knee injury not only takes time to heal, it also gets you off your feet pretty well. And even a professional like Mexes was going to lose stamina, and gain some weight.
Jack Bauer
http://youtu.be/7856ExdzKH0
CHU-LIP
He's finally on his way out! fiesta.gif
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According to Mediaset, Milan have decided to do without Philippe Mexes for the rest of the season. The hierarchies in fact defense would see Bonera and Zapata in the role of owners with Silvestre and Rami first reinforcements, with the Frenchman who does not actually find more space. The French footballer would also be close to the transfer to Monaco in France.

Hopefully Rami takes Bonera place rather sooner than later, and form a decent couple with Zapata.
KillerMax
Great, let's sell our best CB... rolleyes.gif
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jan 21 2014, 01:46 AM) *
Great, let's sell our best CB... rolleyes.gif

You and others can say that over and over again, but it doesn't make it true, and thankfully Seedorf does know the truth 96.gif
Linkman
Maybe he grabbed Barbie's butt during a conference. sleep.gif
X-Offender
This is just ridiculous. And Bonera is our first choice??? God help us.
CHU-LIP
I love Seedorf so much right know.
Jack Bauer
Don't think it's about Seedorf, we heard the Mexes to Monaco stories before he was appointed, I think it's about ecomical side. He's earning 4M per year, his contraxt is till summer of 2015 and they want to get some money out of it and save his big salary.

I'm not Mexes's biggest fan and I don't think he deserves 4m. IF they are bringing a good CB in the summer, I won't mind if Rami will take his place till then.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 21 2014, 02:16 AM) *
Don't think it's about Seedorf, we heard the Mexes to Monaco stories before he was appointed, I think it's about ecomical side. He's earning 4M per year, his contraxt is till summer of 2015 and they want to get a some money out of it and save his big salary.

I'm not Mexes's biggest fan and I don't think he deserves 4m. IF they are bringing a good CB in the summer, I won't mind if Rami will take his place till then.

Possibly all true.

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Mexes close to Monaco. Claudio Raimondi explains the choices are Seedorf seemed clear already during the match against Verona. Coming two shots of perspective for the defense: Doria from Botafogo and Toloi of Sao Paulo.
Linkman
Even if that was the case with Mexés, what's the friggin' point of benching him now if we're selling him in the summer? Isn't it much smarter to use him while we have him and have his value increase from good performances?
Jack Bauer
I think the plan is to sell him this month.
Rossoneri7
During his Roma days, I always considered Juan the better defender. Juan used to cover for his short comings a lot. Back then, Milan used to dominate Roma. Kinda like how we are being dominated now.

The fact that many on here perceive Mexes to be our best defender is telling of the quality we have on-hand. I for one would welcome his departure, if that means someone of a better quality is stepping in/up.
Fillipo Simone
Mexes is to the defense what Montolivo is to the midfield in this team. Both "best" in this Milan.

The difference however is in disciplinary record and behavior. Monto is usually a good boy, while Mexes not so. That's why I won't be so sad to see his back.
han2503
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 20 2014, 11:40 PM) *
He's finally on his way out! fiesta.gif

Hopefully Rami takes Bonera place rather sooner than later, and form a decent couple with Zapata.

Oh yeah let's sell our best defender and start games with calamity 1 and calamity 2

Yeah genius stuff.
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 21 2014, 07:07 AM) *
During his Roma days, I always considered Juan the better defender. Juan used to cover for his short comings a lot. Back then, Milan used to dominate Roma. Kinda like how we are being dominated now.

The fact that many on here perceive Mexes to be our best defender is telling of the quality we have on-hand. I for one would welcome his departure, if that means someone of a better quality is stepping in/up.

But those are the facts and things aren't changing, because what will happen once we sell him is that we'll replace him with another dud ala Silvestre and we'll be far worse off than we currently are.

Seriously, this is ridiculous coming from you when you've been telling us to swallow this bitter pill for a while now yet you're ok with selling our best CB now because he doesn't come close to the defenders we had in the previous cycle so we shouldn't settle.

The fact is we're never going to have those kind of defenders unless we stumble on a gem ala Thiago or bring one up through the ranks. So why sell someone who's got vast Serie A experience, is a very good defender (no he's not Nesta level but who is? And unless you're willing to break the bank to bring back Thiago you're not going to get someone on that level, period) and he's currently our best, yes our best. We simply don't know what Rami will offer in the long run. Bonera and Zapata in games against Juve, Roma, Inter and the CL ties we've got coming up is already giving me the chills
Fillipo Simone
I've faith in Seedorf, Tassotti and our management on this one. There must be something big going on behind closed doors. It's irrational to discard Mexes just like that, so I'm convinced there's a reason for doing this.
Jack Sparrow
Including rumours that Seedorf dreams of bringing Thiago Silva back. But he has a contract till 2018. So I don't see that happening.

I'm guessing the 'next Silva' from the Brazilian league.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 21 2014, 12:46 PM) *
Seriously, this is ridiculous coming from you when you've been telling us to swallow this bitter pill for a while now yet you're ok with selling our best CB now because he doesn't come close to the defenders we had in the previous cycle so we shouldn't settle.

The fact is we're never going to have those kind of defenders unless we stumble on a gem ala Thiago or bring one up through the ranks. So why sell someone who's got vast Serie A experience, is a very good defender (no he's not Nesta level but who is? And unless you're willing to break the bank to bring back Thiago you're not going to get someone on that level, period) and he's currently our best, yes our best. We simply don't know what Rami will offer in the long run. Bonera and Zapata in games against Juve, Roma, Inter and the CL ties we've got coming up is already giving me the chills


But you chose not to swallow it, so you don't count tongue.gif

And Mexes is not immune to calamities really, Iv followed him for a loooooooong time, hen is nothing special, so I don't understand why your fussing about him staying or going. To me, Id take Udinese's Zapata against Roma's Mexes any day of the week.

But then again, Im not the one making these decisions, you'd have to address the idiot on that biggrin.gif
X-Offender
Even if he isn't anything special, he's our best CB.

It's sad cos I was really looking forward to this Rami-Mexes partnership, instead we're going to have make due with Bonera, Zapata and even frigging Silvestre.
X-Offender
Tassotti: "Mexes isn't in the best condition. Even on Sunday he had some fever"
Jack Sparrow
laugh.gif So much for the rumour mills. Damn, if this had gone on any further we would have made our own James Bond novel on this forum.
X-Offender
I still think we're gonna sell him.
Fillipo Simone
Yeah, recent trends suggest so.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 21 2014, 02:19 PM) *
Yeah, recent trends suggest so.

Yep, this is what we do, offer us enough and we'll sell especially if the player is on a huge wage that the management themselves gave to him without blinking an eye at the time

Smartest thing to do would be to extend his contract and spread what he's earning now over a longer period.
@ R7, I've chosen to swallow that bitter pill a while ago now
Fillipo Simone
Maybe, but not in the particular case of Mexes. He's already 31, injury prone, has a bad temper and a questionable disciplinary record. If the club think he's causing problems, I don't have a special problem with him leaving.

Yes, he's the best defender we got, but anyway, this season is over. There's no possible/achievable goal to fight other then avoid relegation (and win the Coppa perhaps), and that we'll manage with or without Mexes.

Next season the building process begins (again). My only hopes our we'll find a truly talented defender who could make us stronger. But seeing the overall situation, where Pique, Boateng, Dante and Barzagli tend to be treated as star defenders, I'm pessimistic.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 21 2014, 09:04 PM) *
Yep, this is what we do, offer us enough and we'll sell especially if the player is on a huge wage that the management themselves gave to him without blinking an eye at the time

Smartest thing to do would be to extend his contract and spread what he's earning now over a longer period.
@ R7, I've chosen to swallow that bitter pill a while ago now


Don't worry man. Viagra is proven to work. tongue.gif

P.S: I never quite understood the swallow the bitter pill part. If you swallow it then there is no bitterness coz you can barely taste it right? It ought to be bite the bitter pill unsure.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 21 2014, 02:50 PM) *
Don't worry man. Viagra is proven to work. tongue.gif

P.S: I never quite understood the swallow the bitter pill part. If you swallow it then there is no bitterness coz you can barely taste it right? It ought to be bite the bitter pill unsure.gif

Well you can ask the person who came up with the saying... tongue.gif
Ry4n
If mexes leaves and we get Doria then thats a very good thing i'm sure Seedorf and co can facilitate that.
We have already been linked to Doria since the arrival of Seedorf. aswell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B3ria
KillerMax
Just ask yourself, how many horrendous games has Mexes had in the past 3 seasons? Then ask yourself the same questions about Bonera\Zapata\Silvestre etc...

Mexes is a good defender. The only reason he gets so much flak as opposed to the likes of Barzagli or Bonucci is because he is not an Italian defender. Had he been so, people would be lining up to suck his ****.
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