Fillipo Simone
Apr 22 2011, 08:20 PM
5 matches till season end, but it shouldn't affect the outcome. I think we can all vote now, it's "player of the season".
CHU-LIP
Apr 22 2011, 08:24 PM
To be honest, it can only be Thiago Silva.
BTW. Robinho deserves to be listed, instead of Pirlo (out a lot), Seedorf (inconsistent) or Van Bommel (sure, been good, but is new). The others are
kurtsimonw
Apr 22 2011, 08:54 PM
Ibrahimovic.
dst
Apr 22 2011, 09:11 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 22 2011, 10:54 PM)

Ibrahimovic.
I'll have to agree with you! (second time this week, hooray!

)
acid911
Apr 22 2011, 09:31 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 23 2011, 12:24 AM)

To be honest, it can only be Thiago Silva.
Yup, the monster.

Second place Ibra, and then Nesta. If it were not because of the these three we could very well have lost our marbles up till now. Certainly guys like KPB, MVB and Abate played their parts, and surely Pato too, but for the sake of this poll, there can only be one.
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 23 2011, 12:24 AM)

BTW. Robinho deserves to be listed, instead of Pirlo (out a lot), Seedorf (inconsistent) or Van Bommel (sure, been good, but is new). The others are
Well said, buddy.

I am not sure he will get many votes, but the guy did play enough to earn a call.
William405
Apr 22 2011, 09:41 PM
1-Thiago silva!
2-Ibrahimovic
3-Nesta
4-Pato
5-Boateng
6-Robinho
7-Abbiati
8-Abate
X-Offender
Apr 22 2011, 10:46 PM
I'm expecting Fillippo to explain us why Pirlo's on that list and Robinho is not.
Anyway, my vote goes to Thiago Silva.
Fillipo Simone
Apr 22 2011, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2011, 10:46 PM)

I'm expecting Fillippo to explain us why Pirlo's on that list and Robinho is not.
Corrected.
Rossoneri7
Apr 22 2011, 11:22 PM
Abbiati
Milan Are Brilliant
Apr 22 2011, 11:27 PM
No Merkel?
Anyway, even though I think he's a class-a di** I'll put Zlatan.
dst
Apr 22 2011, 11:27 PM
Silva has been the most consistent player for us this season but Ibrahimovic has won us more points. So I went for the latter because I don't think this award is for the most consistent player but for the most valuable one.
Fillipo Simone
Apr 22 2011, 11:40 PM
Well, defenders can't score much, but they prevent many goals. I think Thiago did exactly this; even more the Ibra. That's why I picked him!
amancik
Apr 22 2011, 11:41 PM
Thiago Silva is fast becoming one of my favourite defenders of all time.
CHU-LIP
Apr 22 2011, 11:47 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 23 2011, 12:27 AM)

Silva has been the most consistent player for us this season but Ibrahimovic has won us more points. So I went for the latter because I don't think this award is for the most consistent player but for the most valuable one.
Thiago Silva is our most valuable player in my honest opinion. Defenders often got lack of appreciation compared to attackers. I believe Thiago Silva's importance to Milan is massively underrated (not by everyone).
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 23 2011, 12:40 AM)

Well, defenders can't score much, but they prevent many goals. I think Thiago did exactly this; even more the Ibra. That's why I picked him!
+1
acid911
Apr 23 2011, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 23 2011, 03:40 AM)

Well, defenders can't score much, but they prevent many goals. I think Thiago did exactly this; even more the Ibra. That's why I picked him!
+2.

Well put. I voted for the guy too. Silva did his job with a quite head and luckily did not get too many injuries. All things considered, he had a hand in saving us more points than Ibra earned (single-handily or via assists). IMO, of course. Now obviously, we can't possibly imagine to measure the performances in numbers.
But I like to think that Ibra had a big hand in getting us to first place - Silva even a bigger in keeping us there!
dst
Apr 23 2011, 12:28 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 23 2011, 01:40 AM)

Well, defenders can't score much, but they prevent many goals. I think Thiago did exactly this; even more the Ibra. That's why I picked him!
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 23 2011, 01:47 AM)

Thiago Silva is our most valuable player in my honest opinion. Defenders often got lack of appreciation compared to attackers. I believe Thiago Silva's importance to Milan is massively underrated (not by everyone).
Come on guys you know all my favorite players are defenders so it's not like I don't know of the neglect they get. I just think Ibra did more I'm not saying Silva's defensive contributions are not worth much.
kurtsimonw
Apr 23 2011, 01:00 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 23 2011, 12:28 AM)

Come on guys you know all my favorite players are defenders so it's not like I don't know of the neglect they get. I just think Ibra did more I'm not saying Silva's defensive contributions are not worth much.
Exactly. Defensively we'd still have been okay without Silva, in my opinion. We'd score enough goals to win games, plus we still have Nesta back there. Without Zlatan, we still wouldn't conceed many, but we wouldn't have scored enough to win the title. It's not just his goals either, I'd imagine Zlatan has to be high up on our assists too?
1. Ibrahimovic
2. Silva
3. Nesta
So it's not like I'm under-appreciating defenders or anything.
CHU-LIP
Apr 23 2011, 01:01 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 23 2011, 01:28 AM)

Come on guys you know all my favorite players are defenders so it's not like I don't know of the neglect they get. I just think Ibra did more I'm not saying Silva's defensive contributions are not worth much.
You're post didn't say anything about Silva being valuable, winning us points. It sounded Zlatan is like that, and Silva not so much. Own fault. Anyway, we seem to disagree. Which is understandable when discussing defender vs attacker.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 23 2011, 02:00 AM)

Exactly. Defensively we'd still have been okay without Silva, in my opinion. We'd score enough goals to win games, plus we still have Nesta back there. Without Zlatan, we still wouldn't conceed many, but we wouldn't have scored enough to win the title. It's not just his goals either, I'd imagine Zlatan has to be high up on our assists too?
1. Ibrahimovic
2. Silva
3. Nesta
So it's not like I'm under-appreciating defenders or anything.
I disagree! Our defense with or without Silva is so a big difference. Nesta isn't what he used to be. Silva is our monster there, he is necessary! Almost every game Silva is saving our butt time after time, being everywhere to make up for flaws of teammates, immense defensing, so damn important. With no Zlatan, we have Pato and Robinho... awesome attack! And also Cassano...
Milan Are Brilliant
Apr 23 2011, 01:04 AM
This conversation is a bit silly, because it's like if you voted for Silva I could say what about our attackers? Yet if you voted for Zlatan, I could say what about Silva? But if you voted for Silva I could say what about Abbiati? He never gets any credit as he's a GK, but if you voted for Abbiati I could say what about Abate? He's drastically improved of late but people still dislike him... and so on.
It's all personal preference
CHU-LIP
Apr 23 2011, 01:05 AM
Abbiati is having a great season with us, and isn't appreciated enough by some fans. Of course Thiago Silva stands above him easily.
acid911
Apr 23 2011, 07:08 AM
Exactly, it either comes down to picking between defenders saving our behinds when attackers score a single goal in 90 minutes, or attackers going the extra mile and scoring one up when the defense is leaking goals.

Personally, I'd take the former, even though I know where dst is coming from. I just feel that our defense held up their end of the bargain more so than the attackers, and by defense I mean, Silva, Nesta, Abate, and even Abbiati.
Zlatan or any of our attackers would have done diddlysquat if the defense was not as waterproof as this! This is what happened the last few seasons, we got a goal to the better, only to squander that chance in the last 10 minutes of the match. Come on people, you remember those days! Fact remains that defense wins the league, and attack wins tournaments. Saying Ibra was the 2nd most influential player through the season is no way near bad, considering the guy was banned for 8-10% of the matches after accumulating red cards, LOL.
Jokes aside, whoever you choose is right - the top four, five players all were influential in where we are today!
Danny
May 19 2011, 04:55 PM
It's either Silva or Ibra. I went for Ibra just for the sheer moments of magic he produced on several occasions.
Fillipo Simone
May 19 2011, 09:56 PM
Thiago 10 - Ibra 5
Not the most popular footballer in red and black, even at his best. I'm curious what will happen when he starts deteriorating.
acid911
May 19 2011, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 20 2011, 01:56 AM)

Thiago 10
Make that 11.

Undisputed winner. Ibra could have scored bundles of goals, but if the defense leaked as many at the back, then I am sure we would not have won the league. Even an extra couple of draws here and there, and we would have been sorry. But nice to see the guy getting recognition, not just from Milan fans but Europe overall.
And then there are the cards. Thiago Silva - as a defender - has just 1 yellow card all season.

A solitary yellow card, would you believe that. Just for comparison, Ibrahimović has what 8 yellows and 2 reds, something like that.
Kazdoodle
May 19 2011, 10:21 PM
Voted abbiati. if kalac was in there was a chance you guys wouldnt be the serie a champions. shows you um his importance
even that save vs inter impressed me. that was simply world class
X-Offender
May 19 2011, 10:21 PM
Who's Kalac?
CHU-LIP
May 19 2011, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 19 2011, 11:21 PM)

Who's Kalac?
Are you in denial that he has played for Milan or of his existance?
Zed.D
May 19 2011, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 20 2011, 12:26 AM)

Not the most popular footballer in red and black, even at his best. I'm curious what will happen when he starts deteriorating.
It's got nothing to do with popularity. Zlatan has been almost unwatchable in the past couple of months. I know he won us many important points in the first half of the season but so did Pato, when Ibra went AWOL. I can't see how adjectives "inconsistent" and "best" can be attributed to some footballer at the same time.
Silva for me too, because he has been both damn consistent, and brilliant.
X-Offender
May 19 2011, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ May 19 2011, 11:31 PM)

Are you in denial that he has played for Milan or of his existance?

I make it absolute to erase from my memory players that have terrorized me during their stay in Milan. Kalac must have been one of those.
Bluesummers
May 20 2011, 08:40 AM
without a doubt silva. Stats talk for themselves. The number of goals we've conceded this season is extraordinary.
Danny
May 20 2011, 01:33 PM
QUOTE (Kazdoodle @ May 19 2011, 10:21 PM)

Voted abbiati. if kalac was in there was a chance you guys wouldnt be the serie a champions. shows you um his importance
even that save vs inter impressed me. that was simply world class
Ahh, Kalac - a blast from the past.
Dracoris
May 20 2011, 05:26 PM
Silva, absolutely. I think someone else mentioned that he's only had one yellow. That is absolutely incredible.
kurtsimonw
May 20 2011, 09:32 PM
He only made 26 fouls in 32 games according to ESPN.
Dracoris
May 21 2011, 12:28 AM
Makes me think that a brute like Mexes could be a good fit next to him.
arivanjj
May 21 2011, 02:26 AM
1 - Silva
2 - Ibra
3 - Abbiati
4 - Nesta
5 - Robinho
Fillipo Simone
May 21 2011, 08:55 AM
Nice to see Abbiati get some recognition as well.
William405
May 21 2011, 03:20 PM
Well,you're going to have to do something really special to be the player of a season as a goalkeeper.And,although,Abbiati has always been there when we needed him.He hasn't been as essential as our center back duo.He's been good,but he wasn't much of a game changer compared to Ibrahimovic,Nesta and Silva.
il_diavolo_mtl
May 21 2011, 11:23 PM
Lol at whoever picked FuoriRobi and Boat
CHU-LIP
May 21 2011, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 22 2011, 12:23 AM)

Lol at whoever picked FuoriRobi and Boat
but.. but.. you got Prince as your signature

Robinho btw was really good for us this season.. only Silva was imo obvious more important than him
Fillipo Simone
May 21 2011, 11:33 PM
I don't like Ibra much but you sure gotta acknowledge his contribution prior to Robinho's. Binhos finishing still remained terrible all season long.
CHU-LIP
May 21 2011, 11:55 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2011, 12:33 AM)

I don't like Ibra much but you sure gotta acknowledge his contribution prior to Robinho's. Binhos finishing still remained terrible all season long.
Yes, that has been said a million times now, but in pretty much everything else Robinho has been amazing, and he was a key player this season. Anywho, I didn't meant to say he was more important, I used the word ''obvious'' for reasons. If I had to order them, I would do Silva 1, Zlatan 2, Robinho 3.. (Abbiati 4?)
il_diavolo_mtl
May 22 2011, 12:14 AM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ May 21 2011, 06:30 PM)

but.. but.. you got Prince as your signature

Robinho btw was really good for us this season.. only Silva was imo obvious more important than him
Boatang has, IMO, been the surprise/revelation of the year. not the player of the year....
you can't convince me FuoriRobi tries hard in practice after missing all the sitters he did. he could have been our top scorer if he was more professional in practice. Accuracy is one of the EASIEST things to train!!!!!
CHU-LIP
May 22 2011, 12:22 AM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 22 2011, 01:14 AM)

Boatang has, IMO, been the surprise/revelation of the year. not the player of the year....
you can't convince me FuoriRobi tries hard in practice after missing all the sitters he did. he could have been our top scorer if he was more professional in practice. Accuracy is one of the EASIEST things to train!!!!!
Robinho is our topscorer.... (tied w/pato and zlatan)
il_diavolo_mtl
May 22 2011, 12:28 AM
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ May 21 2011, 07:22 PM)

Robinho is our topscorer.... (tied w/pato and zlatan)
you still can't explain his woeful shot/goal ratio with rational arguments.
Fillipo Simone
May 22 2011, 12:42 AM
QUOTE
Yes, that has been said a million times now, but in pretty much everything else Robinho has been amazing
Pretty much everything actually does not cover much. Assist? Zlatan and Zee have more if I'm not wrong? Speed - granted. Work rate also. But for a striker, finishing is a priority.
CHU-LIP
May 22 2011, 12:42 AM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 22 2011, 01:28 AM)

you still can't explain his woeful shot/goal ratio with rational arguments.
well, I'm not trying to... yet he scored as much as Pato and Zlatan, hmmz... how is that possible then? Well, obviously he gets more scoring chances.. why? Is he lucky to have so? No, it's skill. Just like other stuff like his contribution in defending, building up, linking up, lots of work-rate and energy. Ah, it bugs me really people say when talking about Robinho that his finishing sucks, and that's all, no word more, just like, forgetting or not noting ALL the good stuff he does, and that's A LOT. Underappreciated, he's underrated.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2011, 01:42 AM)

Pretty much everything actually does not cover much. Assist? Zlatan and Zee have more if I'm not wrong? Speed - granted. Work rate also. But for a striker, finishing is a priority.
If you only look at stats, then you can easily say he's not that good. But stats show in fact little. Even when it comes to a forward, stats dont say everything. Robinho has been a huge influence when to comes Milan scoring goals, even though he didnt score or gave the assist always.
Fillipo Simone
May 22 2011, 12:49 AM
Defending? You actually mean he made a contribution in defending?
And Robinho has 33/14 while Ibra has 29 and Pato only 24. But that isn't so important. He could have had 24 goals if he'd been more professional. It's his unprofessional approach and easy going chance wasting that bugs me.
Fillipo Simone
May 22 2011, 01:04 AM
QUOTE
If you only look at stats, then you can easily say he's not that good. But stats show in fact little. Even when it comes to a forward, stats dont say everything. Robinho has been a huge influence when to comes Milan scoring goals, even though he didnt score or gave the assist always.
Stats? You are the one who brought stats into this one. I only answered with them back. Initially I didn't talk about stats, I know how deceptive they can be. The real story I'll always remember how Robinho almost made me jump and pull my hair with his sitter missing. Just remember Brescia. This is something a 33/14 stat does not tell.
X-Offender
May 22 2011, 01:06 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2011, 01:49 AM)

It's his unprofessional approach and easy going chance wasting that bugs me.
This sentence is very wrong.
CHU-LIP
May 22 2011, 01:08 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2011, 02:04 AM)

Stats? You are the one who brought stats into this one. I only answered with them back. Initially I didn't talk about stats, I know how deceptive they can be. The real story I'll always remember how Robinho almost made me jump and pull my hair with his sitter missing. Just remember Brescia. This is something a 33/14 stat does not tell.
I didn't really brought stats into this. I defended Robinho by telling what he does well, only used the stat that he is topscorer along Pato and Zlatan, since il diavolo mtl said that he could be topscorer if..
Of course his finishing is frustrated, and therefore people are too harsh on him, and not praising him enough, because he had a very good season with us, BAR HIS FINISHING I AGREE, but there is so much more than just finishing in football, also when it comes to attacking.
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