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dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 20 2011, 10:37 PM) *
Two penalties in our favor and none of them were called ... I can see where this fixture is going innocent.gif

what? huh.gif

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 10:39 PM) *
I'd bring in Abate and Robinho for Oddo, and Seedorf, move Boateng back in midfield and let Robinho run rings around this terrible Palermo defense.

Great goal from Ibra though, glad to see he hasn't lost his scoring touch completely

Robinho would certainly run rings around them, he'd even go past the keeper... but he'd still miss the open net...

Lovely finish there yeah.
samira
who did that great ball to Zlatan
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 20 2011, 08:49 PM) *
what? huh.gif


Robinho would certainly run rings around them, he'd even go past the keeper... but he'd still miss the open net...

Lovely finish there yeah.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

At least he'd provide the others with more spaces to run into, and him and Zlatan work well together as well. The team misses something in attack, that spark and imo, Robinho could bring that.

Personally I don't consider him a striker, and even though his finishing gives me a mild coronary everytime, he still bring that something extra to our attack that the others don't
samira
2-1 and I got to admit, it wasn't an ugly goal either..
Thaigo Silva is doing good but it's like playing with one CB ..
X-Offender
My god, how bad is Antonini??? Also, Sokratis proving why Allegri never plays him.
X-Offender
Oh, and btw, Oddo is useless. I bet his cross on Ibra's goal was a mistake.
X-Offender
URBY!!!!
Zed.D
Personally I don't care about the Coppa so I can't be bothered in the slightest if we went out. not saying that going through is not a good thing...
dst
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 20 2011, 11:26 PM) *
Personally I don't care about the Coppa

why not?
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 20 2011, 11:59 PM) *
why not?

It just doesn't excite me, the prospect of winning Coppa Italia. small, local cup IMO. again, I'm not saying that winning it would not be good...
han2503
Worst defending I'e seen from Milan this season by far, even worse then the Udine game rolleyes.gif

It looked like Silva was the only defender on the pitch. Sokratis was aweful, at first I thought he was just rusty, but man, he was just terrible!! Antonini and Oddo? There are no words!

When Oddo plays, he wastes an average of 10 minutes of our time, either launching the ball at the keeper or out of the stadium, the funniest part was when him and Antonini kept blasting crosses from left to right to each other rolleyes.gif

Urby was good, but he made some mistakes because he was rushing too much with his passes.

There was a definate penalty on Ibra, it was stone cold, and still cannot believe that it wasn't given!!

Flamini was average, same for Boateng, Pirlo looked like a player tring to find his feet at top speed. Cassano made some nice moves and passes but other then tahe he was anonymous.

All in all, the defense ruined this for us. Abate should have been played from the start, and Yepes should have been played, unless it's as I thought and he had fitness problems

Btw, what was Rino doing with the Yepes/Samurai hair? He looked even more ridiculous then usual
CrazyMilanFan
han udinese game is the one in which bonera did his magic.... worse than that OMG good i didnt watch the game
Rossoneri7
Ah .. So we go for the Scudetto and merda go for the Copa. Good times cool.gif
han2503
I wouldn't count us out yet though. I know we shudder at the thought of the Barbera, but a full strength team would give them a run for there money. We need to shake off the Scicilian jitters
William405
I agree about everything han.Although,I found Boateng great as usual...didn't get to see 20 minutes of the second half though so couldn't judge then.

Antonini though surprised me,he has reached a new low.
han2503
QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 20 2011, 09:12 PM) *
I agree about everything han.Although,I found Boateng great as usual...didn't get to see 20 minutes of the second half though so couldn't judge then.

Antonini though surprised me,he has reached a new low.

He was decent in the first 30 minutes or so, then his performance went down hill, although the midfield behind him wasn't supporting him as they should have
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 10:49 PM) *
Worst defending I'e seen from Milan this season by far, even worse then the Udine game rolleyes.gif

It looked like Silva was the only defender on the pitch. Sokratis was aweful, at first I thought he was just rusty, but man, he was just terrible!! Antonini and Oddo? There are no words!

When Oddo plays, he wastes an average of 10 minutes of our time, either launching the ball at the keeper or out of the stadium, the funniest part was when him and Antonini kept blasting crosses from left to right to each other rolleyes.gif

Urby was good, but he made some mistakes because he was rushing too much with his passes.

There was a definate penalty on Ibra, it was stone cold, and still cannot believe that it wasn't given!!

Flamini was average, same for Boateng, Pirlo looked like a player tring to find his feet at top speed. Cassano made some nice moves and passes but other then tahe he was anonymous.

All in all, the defense ruined this for us. Abate should have been played from the start, and Yepes should have been played, unless it's as I thought and he had fitness problems

Btw, what was Rino doing with the Yepes/Samurai hair? He looked even more ridiculous then usual


+1

Defense cost us the game. Oddo/Antonini/Sokratis shouldn't be seen anywhere near a football pitch.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 21 2011, 01:22 AM) *
Ah .. So we go for the Scudetto and merda go for the Copa. Good times cool.gif

Unfortunately we'll have to go for the Coppa too as we're not out yet. I wish we were. I don't want us lose any concentration in the league.
CHU-LIP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 20 2011, 11:18 PM) *
+1

Defense cost us the game. Oddo/Antonini/Sokratis shouldn't be seen anywhere near a football pitch.

And Pirlo... man, such an eyeshore to watch him play in front of the defense... nice one, Allegri
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 20 2011, 11:33 PM) *
Unfortunately we'll have to go for the Coppa too as we're not out yet. I wish we were. I don't want us lose any concentration in the league.


You snub the Coppa way too much. It's obviously the least important trophy, but if we want to become a club with winning mentality, we must try to win it at all cost.
X-Offender
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 20 2011, 11:36 PM) *
And Pirlo... man, such an eyeshore to watch him play in front of the defense... nice one, Allegri


Agreed. I think the days of Pirlo in front of the defense might be over. I'd rather have a player with physical attributes and good feet there, like Van Bommel.
amancik
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 05:43 AM) *
Agreed. I think the days of Pirlo in front of the defense might be over. I'd rather have a player with physical attributes and good feet there, like Van Bommel.


I think that is one key element we missed in the game, a physically strong player who has good range of passes like Van Bommel. Perhaps Pirlo is not 100% match fit, but he looked slow at pulling passes and very slow at closing spaces. I think this is the first time I've seen Milan being counter-attacked in recent games. I agree with the rest, defence screwed this up. And Thiago Silva is showing signs that he might arguably be the best defender in Serie A at the moment.
X-Offender
QUOTE (amancik @ Apr 21 2011, 12:17 AM) *
And Thiago Silva is showing signs that he might arguably be the best defender in Serie A at the moment.


You have any doubts about it? He IS the best defender in Serie A.
amancik
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 06:18 AM) *
You have any doubts about it? He IS the best defender in Serie A.


Not until Nesta is retired. king.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE
Sokratis was aweful, at first I thought he was just rusty, but man, he was just terrible!! Antonini and Oddo? There are no words!

+1

Sokratis dared Bonera with this match. But it's funny, we've been harping around how Sokratis has been left out...yet. At first I also thought it's just little match practice, but his overall display was tragicomic. Antonini and Oddo were bad, but not near as bad as Sokratis.

Pirlo get's the blame, but none mentions Flamini. If one should be marked usless it's him. He's mediocre at best in some departemnts, but not a single thing he's best or great.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (amancik @ Apr 20 2011, 06:21 PM) *
Not until Nesta is retired. king.gif

Out of respect for Nesta, it's a nice thing to say, but not true at all.

In fact Nesta himself has called T. Silva the best defender in the world.
amancik
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 21 2011, 07:12 AM) *
Out of respect for Nesta, it's a nice thing to say, but not true at all.

In fact Nesta himself has called T. Silva the best defender in the world.


I know, I was just kidding. I wanted to say T. Silva might arguably be the best defender in the world, but I held back and said Serie A instead.
X-Offender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7i2BngFSw

Take it at 0:38, and witness Antonini's utter ignorance at adopting the offside trap. Facepalm stuff.
amancik
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 07:18 AM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7i2BngFSw

Take it at 0:38, and witness Antonini's utter ignorance at adopting the offside trap. Facepalm stuff.


Yeah he was putting Hernandez onside. Thiago Silva anticipated Abel H's run and raised his hand straightaway for offiside call not realising Antonini had put Abel H onside. But take nothing away from the finish, completely unexpected.
Jack Bauer
How the **** the penalty on Ibra (few minutes after Urby's goal) was not given? Anyway, with our regular lineup we can beat them in Sicily. Hope by then Nesta and Pato would be fit.

I don't think that we would see Papa in Milan shirt ever again.
KillerMax
I hope everyone noticed that we had two penalties not given. First I'm pretty sure it was Antonini who was blatantly and without a doubt pushed to the ground inside the box and the second one was on Ibra when he was tackled inside the area. Actually if Urby hadn't scored, there was another penalty that should have been given on Ibra. But Urby scored that one anyway. Horrendous defending (Papasuckapolous huh.gif ) and bad refereeing cost us a game we could have won!
han2503
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 20 2011, 09:36 PM) *
And Pirlo... man, such an eyeshore to watch him play in front of the defense... nice one, Allegri

Yep, I'm really hoping that Allegri doesn't try to alternate between Pirlo and VB in that holding position. VB is the only player in our team who can play that position, Pirlo just does not have it in him anmore to play such a position. Pirlo before he got injured was occupying the left midfield spot that Seedorf has been playing in, and he was great in it. That's where he should be played, with VB covering HIM, not Pirlo covering Seedorf and Flamini. Ridiculous stuff imo.

Allegri imo has been inch perfect these past few weeks, shut every critic up, but yesterday he made some terrible decisions. Playing that defensive line-up was the 1st one, players who hadn't stepped onto the field in months expected to play against Palermo, it literally looked like only Thiago was playing there, he had to cut in and make an interception on Sokratis' position more then one. Also why he chose to rest Abate, the 23 year old, yet played Seedorf the 34 year old still baffles me.

Pirlo shouldn't have been played in the position, and with Pirlo there, 2 DMs should have ben played, not just Flamini, who is arguably the least defensive DM in our team, because he likes to push forward

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 20 2011, 09:40 PM) *
You snub the Coppa way too much. It's obviously the least important trophy, but if we want to become a club with winning mentality, we must try to win it at all cost.

Agreed

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Apr 21 2011, 04:02 AM) *
I hope everyone noticed that we had two penalties not given. First I'm pretty sure it was Antonini who was blatantly and without a doubt pushed to the ground inside the box and the second one was on Ibra when he was tackled inside the area. Actually if Urby hadn't scored, there was another penalty that should have been given on Ibra. But Urby scored that one anyway. Horrendous defending (Papasuckapolous huh.gif ) and bad refereeing cost us a game we could have won!

Agreed,, some terrible refereeing throughout the game, the first half was bad offside calls, I think I spotted 2 where Ibra would have been clean through and he was wrongly called back.

Second half, 2 bad penalties not called, the most obvious one was when Ibra was literally chopped off, and yes before Urby fired it in, Ibra was hacked down with no intention of getting the ball, and I'm pretty sure the ref wouldn't have called that either.

All in all, the defense looked like something out of a horror show, I haven't seen something so jumbled up from us since last season under Leo
Rossoneri7
I think the only flaw in this game was the way the team dropped its concentration after Ibra's opener .. Otherwise I wasn't expecting much from Amelia, Oddo, Antonini, Papa and Pirlo. I believe Allegri wants to win this trophy and that the club are also considering the double, that said I don't mind us letting this one slip subject to us winning the championship
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 21 2011, 11:28 AM) *
I think the only flaw in this game was the way the team dropped its concentration after Ibra's opener .. Otherwise I wasn't expecting much from Amelia, Oddo, Antonini, Papa and Pirlo. I believe Allegri wants to win this trophy and that the club are also considering the double, that said I don't mind us letting this one slip subject to us winning the championship

At this point we can only lose the Scudetto by our own doing.

The Coppa could be huge for us in terms of gaining even more winning confidence, sweeping away the domestic titles will help us carry this on into next season in Europe as well.

Personally I want us to give the final push for both, I don't want to see players being rested for the away game. I'm sure the players can handle it, we've had a relatively easy schedule since the international break. Playing another 2 games and giving it there all is not that much of a stretch
Zed.D
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 02:10 AM) *
You snub the Coppa way too much. It's obviously the least important trophy, but if we want to become a club with winning mentality, we must try to win it at all cost.

At all cost? that's the part I have a problem with. slipping in the league because of the Coppa would be too great a cost. wouldn't it?
Dracoris
I just can't understand needing a goal and putting Gattuso in for Boateng. I just don't get it.
servbot
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 21 2011, 09:44 AM) *
At all cost? that's the part I have a problem with. slipping in the league because of the Coppa would be too great a cost. wouldn't it?


We've got a pretty safe lead for the Scudetto...it would have to be some kind of epic collapse at this point. I did not see this match, but I see no reason why we shouldn't go all out to win the Coppa at this point.
X-Offender
QUOTE (servbot @ Apr 21 2011, 06:21 PM) *
We've got a pretty safe lead for the Scudetto...it would have to be some kind of epic collapse at this point. I did not see this match, but I see no reason why we shouldn't go all out to win the Coppa at this point.


Precisely.
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