Odd way to finish off there...but w/e.

3 more points!!!

last weeek result was 3-0

Stupid red card, and totally unneccesary. I hope Allegri will finally learn - Ibra can and must be subbed off at some point. He simply has to start doing it!

Seedorf MOM, good game for Pato, Boateng and Thiago as well. Abate was a mess.

Woot!3points!Should have buried it before though.

was eating my nails towards the end but we got the three points ! FORZA MILAN !!

p.s Ibra's sending off was pretty ridiculous the ref was pretty **** all match.

+1

Abate has to learn to block those crosses and shots he let far to many come in , if Fiorentina's attack was any good they wouldve got on the end of some of them work on it Abate please !!

i think ibra got a srtaight red. and on milannews it says he possibly said something to the lineman as well

Damn, a straight red, that's gonna cost him another 3 games right?

Where did Galliani go after Ibra's sending off? :S

What a shitty game!

We could've easily won this like 4-0 or something but made complete a meal out of it (as han likes to say) by showing a truly bad attitude. we got arrogant and nearly were punished for it. can't believe we let that f**king Serbian Interista make funny faces and laugh historically like his f**king team is being robbed or something over a non-existent penalty.

Another thing.. I'm totally sure now, Max is afraid to sub Ibra. I can't find any other explanation when Ibra plays like total crap and doesn't get subbed. this was one of those games Binho would've thrived in... Max really needs to grow some balls and act when needed otherwise he will never become anything special.

It's worth mentioning that Pato maintained his 100% record over there. 4 games, 4 goals IINM.
Fiorentina = Pato's b1tches!


Give him a shoulder to cry on

One. You get 3 games if there was something special.
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Good win. Fiorentina players were flopping like flies in the penalty box all game long.

If that's the case then it's a mighty relief. We're fortunate Cassano is back for next week's game. But I'm pretty sure it's gonna be Robinho, Pato and Boateng against Sampdoria.

Did we win or lose ? from this it sounds like we lost when we clearly owned the first half and maybe yes got a little arrogant second half but we won , Ibra should have got subbed for Robinho at the same time as the other two subs but maybe Allegri was waiting to see if we could score one more it back fired and ibra got sent off and they scored oh well looks like Cassano will have his slot next game no love lost really time to Samp now. Grazie Allegri a step closer to the Scudetto and Bravo Seedorf for a wonderful goal !

Reminds me of Sheva's love affair with Lazio. Oh the memories

As for Ibra, I think he did good, he linked up with Pato, made and assist, was hugely involved in the second goal. First yellow was soft and he tried to pull out of the trip but he had already commted himself. Second yellow I still don't understand, he said something to the lines-man? So what??!! FFS the Viola players wanted to tear the ref's head off for most of the game and were trying to take someone's leg off at one point with the challenges. Allegri's mistake was not subbing out Ibra, he hadn't played in a month FFS!! He shouldn't have tried to play him the entire 90, after the 60th minutes mark Ibra faded out completely, and started losing the ball easily and getting frustrated. Allegri should have sen this, subbed him out and treated him as a player who needs to get back match fitness.

Personally I thought Ibra's attitude improved a ot, he wasn' yelling and acting like a petulant kid for his own short comings, he clapped at Pato when he tried to pass to him, Pato and him passed it to each other and tried to link up. Before they wouldn't even acknowledge that they were even on the same pitch

Oh for everyone saying it was a straight red, it wasn't, Ibra had gotten a yellow a few minutes before for a slight trip

I know we won. it's just that this game could've ended better. way better. different scoreline and Ibra not having to serve another 2-game suspension. FWIW, I AM pro-Max. but doesn't mean I close my eyes on his faults. tonight he did rather poorly.

How long Ibra's gonna be out again? I didn't see the second yellow card, I certainly saw the red. In any case, does this ban right off from his recent return of suspension affect the length of it?

Ibra made an assist? are you sure? first one was by Pato. second one by the Boat.

As for his red, if he insulted the ref or his assistant, that's a straight red I think. I didn't see him being shown a yellow and then a red either... did you? I think he swear at the ref's decision and the assistant told the ref about it.

As for his attitude, well, he's gotten better but even that is not good enough it seems!

As for his performance, he was good in the beginning but as the game went on he got worse and worse. I can't count how many times he lost the ball. and the unnecessary red he got really sums up his night. I'd give him a 1 out of 4.

It was a yellow first for the tackle and after few minutes a straight red for insulting the linesman.

He should be out for two games. One for the 4th yellow and one for the red.

I don't think the camera caught it, the red took everyone by surprise because first thing you saw Ibra losing the ball and it going to a throw then he was starting to walk away, next thing you know there are shouts and the camera is on Allegri, and then quickly back to Ibra and the ref and the red being show.

It certainly wasn't a straight red. He either shouted at the lines-man or I don't know what, still I think it's an unfair call considering how the Fiorentina players acted throughout the game. Maybe he was trying to make up for not calling the penalty, which imo was a spot on decision as that was never a penalty, but considering the meal Fiorentina made out of it, the ref must have lost his cool and tried to balance the scores again

It doesn't work like that, what 4th yellow? Ibra slate was wiped clean after the red against Bari. While it wasn't a straight red, just because the camera only caught the red being shown, does not mean that it was a straight red. When do we actually see straight reds being given for players mouthing off??

http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/fio-mil.html

true true +1

Was that Pato?? Really thought it was Ibra who headed it down, my bad!!

I never saw a straight red being given for players insulting the ref. A yellow yes, but a straight red? Come on. If it were in fact a straight red, it's an even more ridiculous decision to cal, can't think what the viola players were saying to the ref when they practically pushed him around after the foul in favour of Seedorf, I'm sure they weren't thanking him. Players cuss out the ref all the time, still don't understand what the deal was.

It can only be expected that his performance wanes down after a certain amount of time when he hasn't played a match in some time. Again, it was Allegri's mistake for allowing him to stay on for so long. Allegri should grow some b@lls and sub out Ibra when he sees it is neccassary

How does that warrant a straight red. Still cannot understand this BS. We see players cuss out the ref all the time, he probably got a million of those during this very game and let them roll off his back. Still say he was trying to balance it out for the not calling the non penalty.

Han, it depends on what he said. the fact that it said it quietly and didn't shout it or anything makes me slightly confident that he said something really insulting. a strong one. that's a straight red.

well need to ask the ref team what he said. But yea second yellow would have been more than enough

I know.. I mean Pato assisting? that doesn't happen very often!

Considering Mihajlovic made those stupid faces and shouted all the time, considering almost every Viola player insulted the referee...I don't get why Ibra got the red. Was the referee getting under pressure and decided to cut it off with that action. Seems so!

But Ibra's attitude is still wrong. Allegri has to do something. This is getting out of hand.

i think gallaini is handeling that.

According to Max, Ibra was muttering to himself. Still, the red card was harsh.

Not for that reason, but the way the assist was made, I saw it as more of an Ibra style header, rather then Pato


I agree on the first bit. In terms of attitude about working with his team mates without acting like a douche, Ibra has improved, in terms of in terms of discipline he still needs to work on it.

@ zeddie, I'm pretty sure every ref has heard every colourful curse that is elaborated with all the trimmings, usually they let those things pass most of the time, and just walk away and let it roll off their backs. Sure sometimes they try to make an example out of a player so use that as an excuse to hand out a card. But this straight red was excessive to the nth degree imo. Especially considering what went down during the match before that with the Viola players. I think he let the pressure get to him.

And well, that's what happens when you got such players on board. Did Marc van Bommel deserve his red? What about Cassano's stupid expulsion? Or this?

It's what you get when you fill your boat with baggages of bad reputation.
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On a brighter matter. Seedorf today remembered me at one point on Boban. How he fought to win us the scudetto with Zaccheroni in 1999. He was at his twighlight, started the season rather badly, but managed to come back in a crucial moment, turned Milan, scored that important goal against Lazio and some other as well, played a few occasions as captain too and won us the trophy. Maybe my analogy isn't quite good, but he, that's what I felt.

We're not on the pitch and we don't know what players say when they protest. it could be a soft one, like "open your eyes!" or a strong one like "go **** yourself, blind mother****er!!"

I'm pretty sure there was a rule that strong insults could result in a red card. so, as long as we don't know what Ibra said, we can't judge. this is Ibra after all.

I hope what I'm saying here doesn't come back to bite me in the **** come next games, but I'm not gonna miss Ibra cause we won't be seeing "hopeful long-ball to Ibra" tactic for another two games. I think some of our players don't try hard enough when Ibra is playing!

Ibra: 'I was angry with myself'

Zlatan Ibrahimovic maintains he was “angry with myself, not the assistant referee” when sent off for dissent.
The Swede was already on a yellow card and would’ve been suspended for the next round, but was shown a straight red for swearing at the official over a throw-in decision.

“I lost the ball and was angry with myself, not the assistant referee. I was talking to myself,” said the Milan striker.

“I didn’t protest the red card because there was nothing to be said, he had made his decision.”

The Rossoneri emerged with a 2-1 win from the Stadio Franchi, but Ibra could now be suspended for at least two to three games.

“My teammates have reason to be angry with me, as during a period when Fiorentina were putting on the pressure was certainly not the right time to get sent off.

“I am sorry, but it seems as if nowadays I can’t even mutter to myself without getting into trouble. I’ll do everything I can to help Milan win the Scudetto.”

http://www.football-italia.net/apr10x.html

Our next two game in the league are Sampdoria and Brescia. We can beat them without him. Zlatan can play vs Palermo in the coppa between those two games.

Putting everything aside, this was a crucial win. Things went well in the end. One of the positives to take from this match is the fact that Ibrahimovic and Pato seem to be clicking for once. I think they acknowledge that if they wanna win the Scudetto, they need to have chemistry on the pitch.

not bad, but we could do a lot better.

how did ibra and pato missed those chances? we could have really buried the game and shut mihalovic's face. that guy really thought the penalty calls were legit. Idiot! . And ibra really need to control his emotions. and if he doesnt want to play, he should just leave.!!

On the positive side Ibra and pato are finally seeing each other on the pitch. Really loved the 1-2 passes between them. Seedorf was very good, as he has been lately. I think Milan should give him an extension, but let him know he is back up and not first team. we would need his experience for the young generation especially if pirlo is leaving.

A good game, despite the drama in the final 15 mins ... Milan were more organized, more determined and didn't allow Fiorentina to impose much threat.

Someone here asked why we allowed Fiorentina room to spray in those crosses into our 18-yard box ... The commentator also said the same, yet he said, ".. Fiorentina are determined to get a goal, and Milan respects their determination" .. That said, I believe the reason we came out victorious with the 3 points, is because we showed them respect.

Ibra will always be Ibra .. You like his goals and his undoubted qualities ? Well you just have to accept his temper and 'Im the best in the world' mentality.

Pato was immense, I am starting to see his maturity ... The way he plays for the team, increases his overall game and adds a sense of unpredictability from his his; like the assist to Seedorf or the one-two with Zlatan in the final third.

Then we have Abbiati ... Is it possible to name him Goalkeeper of the season ? He has done very well to replace Dida and has aided the backline time and again.

Max Allegri ... Still don't rate him highly ... But he gets the job done and that I am grateful for.

Overall, The whole team did well ... Hopefully by next week we will have Pirlo back, fresh legs in the midfield and another go-to midfielder that we are in desperate need of.

Sah shuglik! (Oh god it's been so long...is it even right?! )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s-b0387YdA

Love this goal such nice finish Seedorf The King !

Sah

Now now, let's not get carried away. Up until the game against Inter, Seedorf was pretty much having his worst season at Milan, playing the least number of games since he's been here and being relegated from people like Robinho, Merkel and Flamini. He had two great games, so what? It's not news in my book. Seedorf's been inconsistent like this for years and years now. He's old, and perhaps unmotivated at times, but that's football. If he was able to pull out such brilliant performances on a continuos basis, I'd keep him until 40.



I managed to read his lips. He clearly shouted at the linesman "Vaffanculo, pezzo di merda", which translated means "F*ck you, piece of sh*t". That's a red card all your life. And regarding previous cases, I can mention you Maicon from last season in Bologna-Inter (1-3), when he swore at the linesman and got banned for three weeks. So, all in all, I can safely admit that Ibra's sending off + ban was totally correct.

Vaffanculo is the most said word during games in Italy in all probability, still see it as a soft red, considering what the Viola players were up to all game long.

It depends on the circumstances. If he'd said something like "Ma vaffanculo..." out of normal frustration whilst turning away in the process, he would have been graced. It happens everywhere. But Ibra looked the linesman in the face and swore at him very harshly. Personally, I think the red card was more than deserved.

agreed

agreed. Ibra does not have it in his disposition to stop himself from these sorts of impulsive outbursts of anger. If his stupid red card saw us concede an equalizer while at a man disadvantage, that COULD have single handedly derailed the Scudetto campaign. He's an idiot. May have been harsh, but he shouldn't even be putting himself in these disciplinary situations. If he's one of our most important players, then he CANNOT be getting himself banned for 5 of our last 10 matches. His behavior is so disappointing.

It's weird. Coz I see Wayne Rooney yell 'F@ck off' to the ref at least twice every game..if United aren't 2 goals up already. Nah...I think this is bias. I'm wondering what if Ibra had sworn in English? Ostensibly a language the ref doesn't follow..and therefore he doesn't know it's a swear word.

Would he be banned in retrospect? Not sure.

What he did was wrong...definitely...but not gonna crucify him for that.

Agreed, personlly I think the ref was under pressure and succumbed to it by making an example, out of the wrong play at that

the call, if it was in fact him talking to the ref, is the weakest red a ref can hand. if the ref cared about consistency the game would have ended with Fiorentina fielding 4 players...This is a good example of Moratti getting his way

Oh but he got banned the other day for doing it into a camera. I'm just wondering if FIFA have sent out a dossier to referees or clubs or something really trying to clamp down on it again. Problem is there is so much dissent all over the globe in football, just watch any game and you will see it. It could go down the roads of sending 3/4 players off a game.