yea seedorf was terrible and we 3 DM is fail. We need pirlo and KPB asap

Damn two dropped points , Lecce did play well and made us look pretty ****

Pato has a different role from Cassano.Not defending Pato whatsoever though.But,Pato is a finisher,he can't play well without a functional midfeild.While,Cassano creates chances...I beleive Pato-Ibra partenrship upfront,with Cassano supporting them would do very well.

Allegri was stupid as always...

Their is basically 3 points separating us from Inter now,great!

It's not because of the 3 DMs. We simply didn't try hard enough.

it wa the midfield that cost us tha game. i couldnt understand what u meant did u want allergri to bring another defensive player on?

Crap game, crap coaching.

Strasser for the start anyone? How has Ambro/Gattuso/Flamini been any better than him?

We really missed a Deep Llying play maker in this match really this kind of setup would be good against Real Madrid or Barca but we need to connect mid field with the attack e.i Pirlo or play Seedorf there and play Robhino behind the strikers or Cassano later on !!

basically we need flamini,KPB and pirlo in our midfield with only one from seedorf,rino and ambro

Hopefully Pirlo should be back for the next game.

so inter are 3 points behind us considering that they win their remaining games

no no.. i meant bringing cassano on for pato was just another way of holding on to a 1 - 0 lead. he shouldve took off a mid for cassano. better yet cassano shouldve started but hey thats allegri's incomptence, the fact is he has played minimal role in our pole position and now we're sitting 3 points infront of inter if they win their catch up games (which is very likely).

Our next game is on Thursday against Bari(Italian cup)

My rating to Allegri has really decreased after this match,not to say that it was high or anything...

So Lecce's attempt at parking the bus, coupled with our inability to pass around the ball resulted in just a single point.

Awesome!

how can you say that did you not see gattuso and ambro give the ball away time after time? that and the lack of fluidity to our attack. the mids couldnt do anything. NESTA had to assist Ibra for christsake

LOL you people attacking Allegri. His only mistake was putting Bonera for Antonini. The rest was none of his fault. He played the best formation out of the players available and made the right substitution at the right time. There wasn't much else he could do. Blame the players instead, who barely even tried at all.

I agree. Maybe he should have made a sub too. But anyway. Bonera is just pure crap. He really should be crossed off once for all times. I simply cannot watch him playing for us.

Very bad match all in all, I hope this won't now turn into a major downfall.

Really?

First,he kept Seedorf playing the whole match.Seedorf can't defend nor create decent opportunities.
The Bonera thing which was mentioned by you.
Flamini,Ambrosini weren't playing very well...Strassesr could have played this.

The fact is when Lecce started to look dangerous,hitting the post etc,Allegri didn't take any action,he just waited and waited...

Also,the change of Pato.We needed Cassano to enter to support Ibra+Pato.Not enter Cassano instead of Seedorf.

Is that enough?

What a horrible game! What a toothless Milan. We barely made two or three half chances all game. We needed a moment of magic from Ibra again.

Players should have put more effort, too. Seriously, I was wondering if they were saving energy.

In short, we didn't play football.

It's like this...

Milan played sh!t today (minus Allegri), but he (Allegri) too could have made some better decisions.

Bonera, Seedorf... really?!


Either way, I don't think it would have changed much because collectively the entire team played really poorly.

It's almost like if they had no plan what so ever out there and would try the same sh!t over & over.

Ibra's passing was horrible, as was Pato's, Nesta's, Seedorf's... need I go on?

Well, we simply don't have alternatives to Seedorf at the moment. Cassano as trequartista isn't the answer. Flamini and Ambrosini didn't play well, true, but I don't think Strasser would have made a major impact on the game. Lecce barely had 2-3 opportunities the entire game, they weren't dangerous at all. We could have easily won this, but the whole team didn't put that necessary effort to take the 3 points. In the end, it lies down to poor motivation rather than Allegri's fault.

Well, like I said the Scudetto was ours to lose, and it seems like we are on the right track to lost it. 5 points from our last 4 games, we have just about made a meal of our winter lead, and a couple more performances like these and things could really get out of hand.

As for Mr. Coach today, he has given more credibility to my theory that he has half a brain. I mean, is there any one person in the world that can tell him that 3 substitutions are allowed in a football game? Sure there was no one in the bench that could have made sense, but for Pete's sake bring in someone that does not make sense. Change something, stir something up, bring in someone fresh, take out some old hag with dead legs. Do something!

In another dimension or a parallel earth, Strasser would have stared ahead of Seedorf (Allegri did not even have the balls to sub Seedorf out for the fear of fan backlash like last time even though we were playing away from home). And Cassano should have been brought on at half time, with Pato and Ibra staying upfront.

I love me some hindsight, I know, but then again, Allegri is the man on the seat. He should know better!

There was a quarrel between Gattuso-Ibra and Pato in the tunnel and dressing room. They wanted Pato to put more effort and be more involve in the game. Pato continued to play an invisible second half nonetheless.

I don't know what is Pato's problem on away fixtures.

The head coach has quite a few jobs to fulfill to be successful. A few of these are motivating his players, making the right selections, and substituting as necessary. Allegri gets a C+ for all of these. It would be ignorant not to blame the coach. Think Mourinho or Guardiola would've drew this game with the same players and the same options? I'm not so sure.

Link: http://football-italia.net/jan16q.html

shame we tied, but then again pato hasnt' played with Ibra in a long time. It would have been different had it been robinho and ibra.

By the way, Abate was pretty good today. Outstanding defensively and quite propelling offensively, too. Hopefully it's a good sign.

True, he was very good today.

I hope we don't throw any more of these points away !

But i think we have to look at it this way maybe i mean yes we can critisise Allegri on the subs but we have to maybe look deeper if you think about it what has really changed since Carlo left i'm talking about the coaching staff on the bench , the staff that give advice to Allegri on who to bring on yes i know the final decision lies with Allegri but its getting so repetitive with first Leo and we can't forget Carlo's weird subs. I know Allegri brought in some of his old coaching staff but Tassotti has remained i'm not saying he should leave but to get the whole picture assistant manager has the second biggest role after Allegri i think we should critisise everyone not just Allegri. Now i defenatley sound like a Fan Boy lol but seriously get your subs right MASSIMILLANO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fell asleep when we were leading ... But had a feeling we were gonna make life difficult for ourselves; as the first half stipulated.

Now la merda have two games in hand; and if they win those ... well they have a very good chance at getting ahead.

Sad really

I don't want to say I told you so...but...

U have 'goat mouth'


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I told you so! Abate has a few years on his side (as opposed to someone like Antonini), and still got room to improve. His performance today was a bit like Zambrotta of yesteryear. Not saying he is a finished article, still has a lot to learn, but he fills more with confidence more than that Bonera guy.

At least I saw one worthwhile cross from him towards the end that I can remember. Pity no one was there to slot it in. And then there was that freak run after the 90 minutes where he tripped and fell but got us a free kick. If only Pirlo was there to cross it in. Point being, if Abate can continue this upwards curve till the end of the season, then he could - and I say it with emphasis - could, be a good, solid option.


Word. The substitution problem has been there all season. Weird or late subs won't do anyone any good!

It looks like Ibra and Gattuso got mad at Pato last night during half-time and at the end of the game. I don't blame them though, Pato is starting to get on my nerves as well. Little movement, erratic passing, no commitment at all. He might have a fantastic scoring record, but when the team is playing bad, he should be the first to step in and make a change.

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No it wouldn't simply because our midfield might as well play in the opposing shirt by the amount of times they give away the ball because of the terrible, terrible, terrible passing that went on through that midfield.


Exactly!!

Another 2 points lost, and it's thanks to Allegri and his stupid cowardly system and lack of ideas. As expected, we were going to win only thanks to some Ibra magic, but then we got righfully punsihed for our negative tactics and the fact that Lecce diserved the goal due to our horrible play. Which was just plain erratic, we had no passing fluedity, no cohesion, nothing. Our midfield looked like a really bad Serie B team. 3 DMs with Flamini and Rino trying to attack scream for a head slap and a

han, perhaps you're forgetting that we HAD NO OTHER MIDFIELDERS ON THE BENCH. What could Allegri possibly do when there's no alternatives? He played the best possible formation. When Pirlo and Boateng get back, then we can start blaming Allegri if the results still don't come.

Strasser? He's played pretty well lately, including a goal. Seedorf, Ambrosini, and Gattuso can not say the same. They have all had a dip in form lately. Flamini gets the benefit of the doubt since he's been injured but I'm not sold he should've even started. He's trained with the team for what? 2 days?

Come on dude, you really think playing Strasser would have changed the fate of our game last night? Strasser is just a holding midfielder, his presence cannot affect the way we play. That said, I'd choose him over Gattuso any day.

That is true X-off.We we're obliged to play with "your system".

That's not true: Strasser and Merkel.


Strasser is a better passer/header/etc. than Gattuso is. It could have affected the game. Playing Merkel instead of a DM was an option too. He adds attacking atributes.

I already said I'd have preferred Strasser over Gattuso, but I don't think that would have solved our game last night. And playing Merkel would have meant Seedorf as deep-lying play-maker, which is a big no-no from my part. Maybe Allegri should have played Cassano instead of Pato from the start, but then again he doesn't have the full 90 minutes in his feet. That's why I say there wasn't much Allegri could have done last night. His hands were pretty much tied.

In midfield we can play sokratis(played some dm for genoa) abate, merkel, strasser.

There is no way in hell he would have benched a scoring pato for an out of weigh, unready cassano. Common man!

That's true, but you have to recognize that Cassano did more in 20 minutes than Pato did in 70, which was NOTHING.

C'mmon guys, X-O is right. I mean, really. Yes, Sokratis...do you honestly think Sokratis in midfield could have made a difference?

I really don't think the line-up is that kind of a problem. Milan in normal terms should win against Lecce in the formation fielded. I understand the 3-DM issue, but against Lecce even that kind of system should assure us 3 points.

Why Bonera played LB, god only knows. This is starting to get annoying.
And yes, Abate had a good match, not that it changed the outcome, but I still don't think he has it in him. That's like one performance out of the last 10 he was good.

Pato? He makes me worry. Constantly with up's and down's, no consistent form...

To be honest, Bonera played better as leftback than Antonini has done this season. Abate is our best fullback at the moment, so I don't understand why you are doubting him. Only Zambrotta might be better, but shame he's out.

Yes, he's the best of the pathetic three (Bonera, Abate, Antonini). Other then that, he's useless. Still not a good performer, no constant form, no skills...naah, I've said it a thousand times. Oddo has 1 game and 2 assist, how much has Abate? I guess zero.

Different circumstances, different scenarios, different game play of the team. You already know that, I am sure. The Milan team was much more attacking towards the end of the match (particularly after Lecce scored). Just like Pirlo did more in Italy's last World Cup group match last year after he came on in the second half. Sure he added something (just like Cassano did yesterday), but part of that was because the mindset of the team was different, they were looking to attack, much more willing to put men forward.

Hypothetically speaking, if Cassano started and did nothing (partly because of how the team was playing at the start, without any game plan and urgency), and Pato came off the bench and did good (because the squad had their tails up seeing as they were drawing the match), then that does not in any way tell the whole story. That's my point.

Late post to the thread...

Stale first half that we fairly controlled but had no bite up front, mainly because there was next to no creativity from midfield. Second half was a lot better with players forced to push up more than the defensive setup from the first half.

Few notes:

Seedorf is proving to be completely garbage in almost everything he does now. I was once his biggest fan, but now I have to say he's a waste of a shirt.

Pato is clearly still getting back match fitness and was inneffectual last night.

Cassano is class in a glass, and while he may be the most hated player in Italy, he's a superb footballer. Can already see just what he can do.

Ibra is a f00kin' monster - proving to be one of the best signings we've made in the last decade. Always thought he was overated, now I see how good he is. Possibly the best striker in the world on current form.

He has had a few quality crosses here and there, but none of them resulted in goals. That's not Abate's fault really - and no, I am not his fan in any way. In my opinion, we have our worst bunch of fullbacks since the time I started watching Milan. Sever lack of quality.

But until the management sorts this out, I'll take Abate out of the other two calibros (Bonera and Antonini).

Why not try out playing Thiago as RB?

Anyway, I don't think Pato would have done the same Cassano did in his last 20 minutes. Yes, we changed our playing style, but Pato didn't look well the whole match yesterday. He's drifting, his movement is erratic and he's not a constant manace like Ibra for example, or Cassano. With Cassano you got that feeling you have to stick with him every moment or he's gonna do it. Pato - not really. He gives the defenders time to rest. He did it against Udinese also, but switched a few time in the right moment - and managed to score. But it's a problem IMO.