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Zed.D
MILAN vs. NAPOLI


Classic match! last season it was a special occasion [the Duck's debut+Ronaldo's comeback!] and we managed to thrash them. even though they did the same to us at San Paolo and we all know the consequences of that defeat...

Anyway, I really like Napoli for they're one of the teams that make Serie A more exciting, but it's time for revenge!

If we consider ourselves a contender for the Scudetto we MUST beat Napoli. both to overtake them in the table (it's a 6-pointer), and considering Inter have an easy game, remain above the cugini!
Zed.D
Oops! I forgot the date in the title. some mod please...
Tennie
Fixed. smile.gif Fishdoll wants a cookie.
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 05:49 PM) *
Oops! I forgot the date in the title. some mod please...

Who cares. We probably won't be able to watch the match anyway, since that funking club hasn't sold the TV rights like all other clubs in Serie A. mad.gif Sure it's their call, but depriving millions of people around the world is something else entirely. I hope they go back to where they belong, that is Serie B.

PS. I love your little special reports before each match, zd. tongue.gif It makes the occasion more occasionlike!
Tennie
Er. Acid, this one's at the San Siro. smile.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Fixed. Fishdoll wants a cookie.

Oops, I ate all the almond cookies. mellow.gif Here have cold one instead:

acid911
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 06:02 PM) *
Er. Acid, this one's at the San Siro.

Hm. Wasn't our match against Siena in the San Siro. No? unsure.gif Then all this traveling sure did get into my head. Anyway, I'm still smiting from last season, not only from the defeat at the hands of Napoli, but also because all I could hear was commentary and view their stupid fans in the stadium (since the cameras weren't allowed to show the action on the field).

Oh well. *shrugs*
Zed.D
@ acid

Are you alright? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 05:31 PM) *
Fixed. smile.gif Fishdoll wants a cookie.


Here's a cookie for the Fishdoll!
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 06:32 PM) *
@ acid
Are you alright?

Yeah, I suppose. unsure.gif But I funking hate greedy people/clubs who deprive people of a good show! tongue.gif Good thing this match is in San Siro, so I'll leave my bashing until the second round when we go there.
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 06:32 PM) *
Here's a cookie for the Fishdoll!

Where's here? biggrin.gif Don't tell me with the millions, billions and gazillions of smilies you have, you can't find a cookie smiley or image? Oh my! Who are you and what have you done with our zd?
Darunia
Gazzetta's early predicted lineup:

Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Jankulovski
Gattuso Ambrosini Seedorf
Kaka Ronaldinho
Borriello

Personally i'd rather see Pato start, he scored against Napoli last time @ the San Siro too tongue.gif
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Darunia @ Oct 30 2008, 04:32 PM) *
Gazzetta's early predicted lineup:

Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Jankulovski
Gattuso Ambrosini Seedorf
Kaka Ronaldinho
Borriello

Personally i'd rather see Pato start, he scored against Napoli last time @ the San Siro too tongue.gif


i would put pato for R80
milanisti
a tough match is expected i think , napoli is too good squad but milan in home is very strong i think
Il Diavolo
I definetely think we should rest Seedorf in favor of 2 strikers /probably Pato and Borriello/ + Kaka and Ronaldinho. We simply need to attack. Napoli plays 3-5-2, meaning our counterattack will be our main weapon. Seedorf is half-injured and last night, he was really slow and lacked creativity. Not that different than R80's performance against Atalanta.

Napoli are without a doubt the best team in Italy right now. We all know it's temporarily, but it's a damn fact. It will be our hardest game so far. After beating Atalanta with luck and Siena with... experience, it will take something more to win the good old derby this Sunday.

Tennie
The thing is, Seedorf is a Big Game Player. He often looks dreadful against the provincial teams and then looks absolutely amazing against Juve/cugini/MU/etc. I wouldn't necessarily drop him from the lineup because he was patchy against Siena.

As for Napoli, they really are playing very enjoyable football right now. They deserve to be at the top along with Udinese - who I think are also playing very enjoyable football.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Il Diavolo @ Oct 30 2008, 11:25 PM) *
I definetely think we should rest Seedorf in favor of 2 strikers /probably Pato and Borriello/ + Kaka and Ronaldinho. We simply need to attack. Napoli plays 3-5-2, meaning our counterattack will be our main weapon. Seedorf is half-injured and last night, he was really slow and lacked creativity. Not that different than R80's performance against Atalanta.

Napoli are without a doubt the best team in Italy right now. We all know it's temporarily, but it's a damn fact. It will be our hardest game so far. After beating Atalanta with luck and Siena with... experience, it will take something more to win the good old derby this Sunday.


+1
GREAT post.

Too bad Carlo won't share your opinion. sad.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 31 2008, 12:32 AM) *
The thing is, Seedorf is a Big Game Player. He often looks dreadful against the provincial teams and then looks absolutely amazing against Juve/cugini/MU/etc. I wouldn't necessarily drop him from the lineup because he was patchy against Siena.

As for Napoli, they really are playing very enjoyable football right now. They deserve to be at the top along with Udinese - who I think are also playing very enjoyable football.


I personally don't have any problem with Seedorf playing in this one as you said he's a big game man! problem is, it is a Sunday night game, a speacial occasion!! Silvio will be there just to watch 'his' Ronaldinho. Dinho will play in this one, and that means the Christmas tree formation...
Tennie
Why can't they both play?

How about:
Abbiati
Zambrotta Nesta/Bonera Maldini Jankulovski
Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
Kaka Ronaldinho
Borriello
Zed.D
They both sure can play. Milan can't play with two attackers anymore was what I meant. and when Pirlo returns, things will be even more complicated. we will probably have to play 4-5-1 or 4-6-0 to keep all of our midfielders happy!


PS. I think it's better for the sake of both Maldini and Milan that he sits this one out. Lavezzi is SO fast. Maldini probably won't manage to keep up with that pace for 90 minutes. it's too risky to play him IMO.
Tennie
(I remember people saying the same thing before the derby this year.)
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 31 2008, 12:53 AM) *
(I remember people saying the same thing before the derby this year.)


Say what? Maldini? I don't think any of Inter's attackers come close to Lavezzi's pace. well, we will see what happens...
Tennie
People were afraid that the cugini's main striker (the one who looks rather like a camel) was going to embarrass Maldini. Turned out it was the other way around.

I'm not sure what the best CB pairing would be for this one. I really wish Nesta were match-fit and healthy!
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 11:57 PM) *
People were afraid that the cugini's main striker (the one who looks rather like a camel) was going to embarrass Maldini. Turned out it was the other way around.

I'm not sure what the best CB pairing would be for this one. I really wish Nesta were match-fit and healthy!


Zlatan is sure a better striker than Lavezzi but he is not a pacy striker at all. in the derby he managed to get past Maldini a few times but since he's rather slow, he couldn't reach the ball ahead of Abbiati. that's why Maldini's lack of pace didn't really show in the derby. Zlatan would have scored if he was faster [16th minute of the derby for example]

Lavezzi's pace is something that Maldini, no matter how great a defender he is, probably can't keep up with for the whole game at the age of 40. but I'm not going to insist that Lavezzi WILL cause Maldini problems. I just think it's 'risky'...

I prefer Nesta-Bonera. though Nesta's pace won't be any better at the moment. we miss Kaladze biggrin.gif
Tennie
You're going to call down the wrath of dst with that statement, zd!
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 31 2008, 12:11 AM) *
You're going to call down the wrath of dst with that statement, zd!


I know, but considering the situation, we do miss him a little.
dst
God will do godly. He knows what's best for the team, if he can't play he will sit on the bench.

Paolo bless you all!
mishie
Bonera and Maldini are our best partnership for this game, Maldini's s'posed lack of pace is often made up for by his reading of the game and no matter who plays pace is always gonna be a problem thats why you make sure abbiati stands a metre or two further up to act a s a sweeper/keeper.
Zed.D
QUOTE (mishie @ Oct 31 2008, 12:19 AM) *
Bonera and Maldini are our best partnership for this game, Maldini's s'posed lack of pace is often made up for by his reading of the game and no matter who plays pace is always gonna be a problem thats why you make sure abbiati stands a metre or two further up to act a s a sweeper/keeper.


I agree.

But there could come a moment when things don't work like that. I'm worried about those lapses, like when Abbiati can't react fast enough to cover Maldini when a striker gets past him...
mishie
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 09:02 PM) *
I agree.

But there could come a moment when things don't work like that. I'm worried about those lapses, like when Abbiati can't react fast enough to cover Maldini when a striker gets past him...

In every game lapses and mistakes happen thats what win's you or loses you matches usually the team that makes the least mistakes wins. i share your anxiety and just hope that the players are up to the task and the occasion wink.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (mishie @ Oct 31 2008, 12:37 AM) *
In every game lapses and mistakes happen thats what win's you or loses you matches usually the team that makes the least mistakes wins. i share your anxiety and just hope that the players are up to the task and the occasion wink.gif


That's why I said we should prevent possible risks in this game. wink.gif

Hopefully we win. this is no ordinary game like the last couple of seasons when there was always 'time to recover' for our 4th place objective! we want to win the title and anything less than a win would damage our chances IMO.
Il Diavolo
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 09:02 PM) *
The thing is, Seedorf is a Big Game Player. He often looks dreadful against the provincial teams and then looks absolutely amazing against Juve/cugini/MU/etc. I wouldn't necessarily drop him from the lineup because he was patchy against Siena.

As for Napoli, they really are playing very enjoyable football right now. They deserve to be at the top along with Udinese - who I think are also playing very enjoyable football.


You're right, Clarence is a 'big games player', but he is not completely healed from what I understand. Neither is Ronaldinho, but at least, he rested Siena.

And seriously, what's wrong with Sandro? He should have been available for Samp, then Atalanta and now, he's not even sure for Napoli. It's been two weeks since he recovered. From what I recall, he complained about his speed, but that ain't much of a problem. Bonera and Paolo are great, but we all know what Nesta is capable of /although he usually plays bad when returning from injury/. And maybe I'm alone on this, but I think Antonini should replace Janku, if not this weekend, then in the near future. His worst performance was against Heerenveen and he wasn't even that bad. Janku is becoming more and more unpredictable. He's a good player, he was our best defender in the early 2007, but Antonini is the future.

Another scary thing is that Emerson is actually performing better than Flamini and Ambro. Carlo, don't count on that. Even though Emerson is an experienced player and has been helpful lately, he's still risky for the big games. He'll be useful in the UEFA Cup, but Ambro and Flamini are class. wink.gif
Tennie
(Do people want me to do the daily training update thingies? Yes/no?)

Not sure if the below helps determine who might play or not, but here are highlights from today's training.

Players who started against Siena trained in the gym.

Here's what the other players did:

Nesta, Ronaldinho and Cardacio worked on acceleration on diagonals.
Shevchenko did a series of (I think it translates as) steps.
Borriello and Ambrosini worked on strengthening exercises.
Senderos worked on agility and changing direction.
Kaladze trained on the ball with Filippo Galli.

dst
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 31 2008, 02:18 AM) *
Kaladze trained on the ball with Filippo Galli.

I really hope he trained on the moon instead. Alone. And forgotten.
Zed.D
@ Tennie

Yes, yes!
Darunia
Bonera-Maldini should be the partnership in this one. They have been quite good lately, and against a very strong Napoli team this is not the one to bring Nesta back. He needs a couple games under his belt first. Janku adds a stronger attacking threat than Antonini, and if he plays well he's a big part of our offense. Plus he sat out against Siena, so he should be ready to go. I haven't seen Antonini on the left cuz Carlo never plays him there... expect Ronaldinho to start this one if hes fit, otherwise Pato will start alongside Borriello. Either way is fine. X-mas tree works better against attacking teams like Napoli than it does against smaller teams. This could be a shootout..
Jack Sparrow
I have absolutely no idea about this Antonini thing. How come Carlo's never asked this in the press conference?

Usually, as a fanboy I have some idea of Carlo's intentions. But this instance... sad.gif I should ask R7.

Is he trying to make Antonini the new Zambrotta. The all round fullback who can play left and right. Coz I notice, he's being played on the right against the 'smaller' teams. I don't know about it though. We tried making Gila a target man and that kinda failed.
acid911
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 31 2008, 12:47 PM) *
Usually, as a fanboy I have some idea of Carlo's intentions. But this instance... I should ask R7.

Unfortunately, this is something two R7s combined can't answer. sad.gif Very un-Carlo-like, these last few months, some strange decisions and team selections. And that for the longest reigning Serie A manager (since 2001) doesn't quite seem to fit.
Jack Sparrow
And yet, we're pretty well in the league... unsure.gif

Curiouser and curiouser...
CrazyMilanFan
r80 is hoping for a start against napoli and as it is home game so christmas tree is most likly
acid911
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 31 2008, 02:42 PM) *
And yet, we're pretty well in the league...
Curiouser and curiouser...

'Well' is a relative term. rolleyes.gif So there it is! Personally I won't be contend until the scudetto is firmly in the bag, and then some. Plus a UEFA Cup victory, since we've got depth and a goalkeeper (Dida) who's finding his form back. Maybe throw in a full treble with the Italian Cup too.

PS. Ronaldinho should start and join in what hopefully turns out to be a massacre. wink.gif For them, of course!
Zed.D
QUOTE
Serie A Preview: Milan - Napoli

What: Italian Serie A-Matchday 10
Who: AC Milan (3rd Serie A, 19 pts.) vs. Napoli (1st Serie A, 20 pts.)
When: Sunday 2 November 20:30 (CET)
Where: Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, Milan



The match of the weekend, along with Juventus-Roma, takes place at San Siro as third placed Milan host joint-first Napoli.

Milan In Fantastic Form

Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti had seemed on the brink of the sack after a dismal start to the season, when his side were defeated in both of their opening Serie A matches against Bologna and Genoa. This all followed a poor pre-season, and there were serious fears that it could be another troublesome campaign for the northerners.

However, Ancelotti has turned things around, and Milan are currently embarking on a superb run of results. The 2-1 home success over Siena on Wednesday, clinched by Pippo Inzaghi and Kaka (penalty), means that the Diavoli have now won six and drawn one of their last seven league fixtures. With three straight UEFA Cup victories in the bag also, Milan have actually drawn just one of their last 10 matches, winning the other nine.

Confidence is high around Milanello, and the club are up to third in the table, a point above their bitter city rivals Inter. Only Udinese and Sunday’s opponents Napoli stand between them and the Serie A summit.

The Rossoneri are now displaying a real depth in their squad, as they have swept past the opposition recently despite being handicapped by a whole host of injuries to the likes of Andrea Pirlo and Alessandro Nesta.

Napoli On The Rise Again

Napoli were only promoted back up to Serie A in 2007 following seven years in the wilderness, but their rapid rise has been incredible.

Last season the Partenopei finished eighth, and this time around things have gone even better as, after nine rounds, they are joint-top of the table alongside another surprise outfit Udinese.

Napoli have had an extremely tough run of fixtures as they have already played Roma, Udinese, Lazio and Genoa away from home, as well as Fiorentina and Juventus at the San Paolo. The fact they have lost just one of these games, at Genoa, defeating Fiorentina, Juventus and Lazio, is testament at just how much this Napoli team has come on.

Boasting prodigious youngsters such as Ezequeil Lavezzi, Marek Hamsik and Fabiano Santacroce, some sections of the media believe that a Champions League slot is not impossible.

Confidence is also high in the port city, as Napoli have won three on the bounce in the league, including a crushing 3-0 home victory over Reggina on Wednesday night when summer signing German Denis bagged a hat-trick.

All is up for grabs at San Siro on Sunday evening, as both teams know that a win could see them attain sole leadership of Serie A, providing Udinese slip up in their tricky clash against in-form Genoa.

FORM GUIDE

Milan

05/10 (Serie A): Cagliari 0-0 Milan
19/10 (Serie A): Milan 3-0 Sampdoria
23/10 (UEFA Cup): Heerenveen 1-3 Milan
26/10 (Serie A): Atalanta 0-1 Milan
29/10 (Serie A): Milan 2-1 Siena

Napoli
02/10 (UEFA Cup): Benfica 2-0 Napoli
05/10 (Serie A): Genoa 3-2 Napoli
18/10 (Serie A): Napoli 2-1 Juventus
26/10 (Serie A): Lazio 0-1 Napoli
29/10 (Serie A): Napoli 3-0 Reggina

TEAM NEWS

Milan


Milan still have injury problems going into this game as Pirlo, Nesta, Senderos, Kaladze, Flamini and Viudez are out. However, Ronaldinho should be fit enough to play. Maldini, Jankulovski, Ambrosini and Borriello should all return to the starting XI after being rested against Siena in midweek.

Probable starting XI: Abbiati, Zambrotta, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Borriello

Napoli

Napoli have almost a full bill of health, although Bogliacino is still sidelined. Blasi returns from suspension, while goalkeeper Iezzo should recover from injury, but apart from this coach Edy Reja is unlikely to make many changes to the team who were so impressive against Reggina. Argentine hitmen Denis and Lavezzi will lead the attack.

Probable starting XI: Iezzo, Santacroce, Cannavaro, Contini, Maggio, Blasi, Gargano, Hamsik, Vitale, Denis, Lavezzi

PLAYERS TO WATCH

Milan – Kaka: The Brazilian has been the matchwinner in Milan’s last two games. He scored a late goal in the 1-0 triumph at Atalanta last Sunday, while on Wednesday he stuck away a second half penalty to down Siena. If Napoli are to cause another sensation they will have to stop the soon-to-be-disposed European and World Footballer of the Year.

Napoli – Ezequiel Lavezzi: Never has a player been so loved in Naples since the time of the legendary Diego Armando Maradona. Lavezzi has been like a breath of fresh air, and his skilful and direct running up-front has been a nightmare for Serie A defences, particularly this season, when he has been unstoppable at times. El Pocho’s duel with the 40-year-old Maldini should be fascinating.

PREDICTION


This game has all the ingredients to be an absolute classic. There will surely be plenty of chances and goals, and I am predicting a four-goal thriller.

Milan 2-2 Napoli
acid911
And I suppose the part that is underlined is meant for me. tongue.gif I'm not going to change my opinion of them, they form the axis of evil trios (inter, juve and napoli). But I get your point, they're a good team (with history too), so fingers crossed we beat them a couple of days later.
Rossoneri7
This will be a very entertaining match .. Milan will definitely bolstered the midfield once again, as Napoli are a side that park the bus in midfield.

It will be a very intimidating game, as both teams will be expected to bring back a result and a draw would not be beneficial - even though this isn't a crucial period in the season.

As for the line-up .. I think all of Seedorf, Kaka' and Ronaldinho will be fielded with Borriello up front.


@Jack, about Antonini ... I think it is obvious that the reason he plays on the right is because Carlo has seen something from him in training (something none of us here are aware off ..). But I must say, his defensive performances, whether on the right or left are solid and consistent, though his lack of creativity up front is mainly due to his lack of experience and comfort ... With time, I think he will be a reference point for Milan or whichever team he ends up with, as he is showing great courage and determination.


This match should end up to be a really mouth watering encounter .. Forza Milan devil.gif
acid911
Gee, I LOVE your smoking optimism, R7. devil.gif I haven't ever seen you displaying pessimism or negative vibes, no matter how hard the going be. I consider myself a happy-go-lucky guy, but you're something else entirely!

May you always remain such!
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 31 2008, 05:03 PM) *
And I suppose the part that is underlined is meant for me. tongue.gif I'm not going to change my opinion of them, they form the axis of evil trios (inter, juve and napoli). But I get your point, they're a good team (with history too), so fingers crossed we beat them a couple of days later.

Nonono. biggrin.gif

I just thought it was very interesting that they, despite having played so many tough games, are still at the top, even above us. that's not accidental. they may not be good enough to beat us on Sunday [/they may very well be!] but I think they deserve to be flying so high. hopefully they can manage a CL spot as they deserve it!
acid911
Of course, I was joking. tongue.gif CL spot, hmmm? Only if it's at the expense of inter. Yeah, I can live with that.
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:04 PM) *
Of course, I was joking. tongue.gif CL spot, hmmm? Only if it's at the expense of inter. Yeah, I can live with that.


It'll be at the expenses of Roma. wink.gif I think Roma will finish the season in an embarrassing position. something like 6th, or worse. I can't see them recover in time to make the CL spot... one/fourth of the games are played and they're already 13 points behind Napoli/Udinese.
Jack Sparrow
I like Napoli for now. They're one of my fav Italian teams. Perhaps 3 or 4 years later when/if they become our regular title challengers, I'll start hating them. biggrin.gif

Well the way I see it, Napoli is going with a 3-5-2. They're going to try to outman us in the mid-field. Reja already said, their tactic is going to be to isolate the forwards, which in this case means the front 3 for us. And they're depending on our DMs to screw up. They know this tactic is very efficient because they know there is no Pirlo. Napoli will stifle us by trying to pressure the deep 3 who are not too proficient at keeping possession, and then try to make a quick ball forward for their fast forwards to latch onto.

Milan on the other hand might depend on counter attacks once again. We might not play the possession game without Pirlo in our side (and with Seedorf not fully fit). We'll depend on the DMs to limit the effectiveness of their fast forwards, while relying on Emerson's return to awesomeness and Rino's possession by Pirlo's poltergeist to launch a quick ball through to R80 or Kaka while Marco makes a nuisance for the 3 man defence.

I hope we win, but neither a loss nor a draw would surprise me too much. I would be disappointed, but not surprised. Napoli are not Genoa. They're pretty good and have great momentum.

What would surprise me though is if Milan wins and does it convincingly.

Carlo will go with the stock diamond with Marco/Pippo at the head of it.

If I were manager I would like to try putting a 4-4-1-1 instead, with Ronnie playing deep as well.

If Seedorf were fully fit, I would have no qualms in the 4-2-3-1.
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 31 2008, 06:50 PM) *
It'll be at the expenses of Roma. I think Roma will finish the season in an embarrassing position. something like 6th, or worse. I can't see them recover in time to make the CL spot... one/fourth of the games are played and they're already 13 points behind Napoli/Udinese.

My head tells me Roma, but my heart says inter. smile.gif At least, a man can dream! Ibra will leave them in a gippy if inter (somehow) fail to qualify. Boy, would that be fun or what, though I know it's nearly impossible to happen.
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 31 2008, 06:28 PM) *
My head tells me Roma, but my heart says inter. smile.gif At least, a man can dream! Ibra will leave them in a gippy if inter (somehow) fail to qualify. Boy, would that be fun or what, though I know it's nearly impossible to happen.


Only 'nearly impossible'? biggrin.gif it's beyond impossible!
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