Zed.D
Oct 10 2008, 12:44 PM
Looks like no one wants to start this thread.. OK, I'll do it.
Roma are officially in crisis and it's unlikely they can get away with any points from the game against Inter. Inter are already 3 points ahead of us, we can't afford to lose any more ground as it'll be almost impossible to keep up with them.
There's a 6-point difference between the 1st and the 14th positions in the table. that means a loss could potentially send us to the 14th position. so it's no joke, it's a must-win game. in fact every game for a team that 'claims' to be aiming for the Scudetto is a must-win. we're the only team that consider ourselves the favorites to win the league and yet lose 5 points in the first 6 matchdays against newly-promoted-Bologna and bottom-of-the-table-Cagliari type teams.
The best news for us is that Borriello will be back, so hopefully no Christmas tree formation.
Zed.D
Oct 10 2008, 12:48 PM
QUOTE
IMPROVING SITUATION10/9/2008 7:09:00 PMMilan's club doctor Manara talked about the situation of the injured players. The balance is positive: from Monday Nesta and Favalli will be back with the group. Next week also Senderos and Borriello.
MILAN - Doctor Massimo Manara talked about the situations of all the injured players with Milan's doctor Massimo Manara:
Favalli'He has started the physical work. He is clearly improving. On Monday he should return to work with the group.
Kaladze'He has been checked and it was confirmed his old scar has caused a lesion. But the pain is decreasing. More evaluations will be made on Monday when he starts doing physical work.'
Nesta'His physical work is proceeding more than positively. From Monday he will be back with the team completely.'
Senderos'He has clearly improved. He is also set to rejoin the team next week.'
Pirlo'An ecography evidenced that his lesions are turning into scars. From today he incremented the physical work, there will be one more check in 15 days.'
Borriello'He was checked this morning. His muscular problem is completely resolved. He will be available next week.'
Flamini'He didn't answer the call up of the national team because he suffered a trauma to his right ankle in the match at Cagliari. He was subjected to an x-ray check, so he will stay out for 5-6 days."
acid911
Oct 10 2008, 01:10 PM
I was about to create a thread, but then I thought the match is a good week or so away!
A win, and nothing but, will cut it for me. Particularly after the loss of two vital points earlier.
dst
Oct 10 2008, 01:36 PM
We cannot afford to lose points in the San Siro again... and Sampdoria are not in good shape.
I believe Roma with Totti back is not going to be a boxing sack for Inter while either Napoli host Juventus which means either or both of them will lose points. Lazio will probably remain on top as they play away at Bologna.
Zed.D
Oct 10 2008, 01:43 PM
I see Inter as our only real threat for the Scudetto (if, and that's a big if, we are really capable of winning it) Juve especially don't convince me at all.
han2503
Oct 10 2008, 02:25 PM
zd, you might just have cursed the Samp game. So if we lose we know we already have an excuse built into this one
Zed.D
Oct 10 2008, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 10 2008, 05:55 PM)
zd, you might just have cursed the Samp game. So if we lose we know we already have an excuse built into this one
Yeah I know
I waited for somebody to start it, even asked for it in the other thread, but looks like people were afraid of the outcome of this game!
acid911
Oct 10 2008, 03:41 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 10 2008, 07:14 PM)
Yeah I know I waited for somebody to start it, even asked for it in the other thread, but looks like people were afraid of the outcome of this game!
Bloody true, zd.
I want to keep my record of 100% wins for as long as it goes! 1/1 at the time of this writing!
Darunia
Oct 10 2008, 05:10 PM
Gazzetta thinks Nesta will start this game, although I'm not sure if he will, he should be eased back into things. Zambrotta is suspended. Senderos/Nesta should start if Bonera slots in at RB for Zambro, since Kaladze is still injured.
Abbiati
Bonera Nesta Maldini Jankulovski
Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
Kaka
Borriello Pato
han2503
Oct 10 2008, 05:20 PM
QUOTE (Darunia @ Oct 10 2008, 04:10 PM)
Gazzetta thinks Nesta will start this game, although I'm not sure if he will, he should be eased back into things. Zambrotta is suspended. Senderos/Nesta should start if Bonera slots in at RB for Zambro, since Kaladze is still injured.
Abbiati
Bonera Nesta Maldini Jankulovski
Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
Kaka
Borriello Pato
If that happens it would actually bring tears to my eyes. Seeing Zambro out on the left instead of Janku just to see an all Italian defence would really be great.
Imo Zambro must start. So Bonera will probably sit out.
Darunia
Oct 10 2008, 05:55 PM
Zambro is suspended, do you guys not read my posts?
Zed.D
Oct 10 2008, 06:11 PM
My desired lineup - considering Nesta won't be ready for this and Antonini can play in the right:
Borriello ------- Pato
Kaka
Flamini ---- Seedorf ---- Ambro
Janku ----- Maldini ----- Bonera ----- Antonini
Abbiati
Bring on Ronaldinho for one of the DMs (and change the system to 4-2-3-1) when the win is guaranteed, like around the 70th minute, or so. also, I wouldn't mind if Senderos started this one...
Of course, wishful thinking. it'll be the Christmas three with 3 DMs
QUOTE (Darunia @ Oct 10 2008, 09:25 PM)
Zambro is suspended, do you guys not read my posts?
vahid
Oct 10 2008, 07:17 PM
If in the next match Carletto uses his f****** Christmas tree formation,he should be sacked
han2503
Oct 10 2008, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (Darunia @ Oct 10 2008, 05:55 PM)
Zambro is suspended, do you guys not read my posts?
oops, must have missed that
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 10 2008, 06:11 PM)
My desired lineup - considering Nesta won't be ready for this and Antonini can play in the right:
Borriello ------- Pato
Kaka
Flamini ---- Seedorf ---- Ambro
Janku ----- Maldini ----- Bonera ----- Antonini
Abbiati
Bring on Ronaldinho for one of the DMs (and change the system to 4-2-3-1) when the win is guaranteed, like around the 70th minute, or so. also, I wouldn't mind if Senderos started this one...
Of course, wishful thinking. it'll be the Christmas three with 3 DMs
Antonini's right foot is really weak and he basically can't use it to cross so it's really pointless to play him on the right, especially when we depend on our fullbacks so much.
I would play Kala in the center and Bonera on the right. Or is Kala suspended also?
CrazyMilanFan
Oct 10 2008, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 10 2008, 07:22 PM)
oops, must have missed that
Antonini's right foot is really weak and he basically can't use it to cross so it's really pointless to play him on the right, especially when we depend on our fullbacks so much.
I would play Kala in the center and Bonera on the right. Or is Kala suspended also?
kala is injued na
KillerMax
Oct 10 2008, 09:17 PM
I obviously want Borriello to start... But there is too much "affection" for Ronaldinho, especially after his derby goal, to leave him on the bench.
Alban.3
Oct 11 2008, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 10 2008, 08:17 PM)
I obviously want Borriello to start... But there is too much "affection" for Ronaldinho, especially after his derby goal, to leave him on the bench.
i think borriello will start with ronaldinho out or in borriello wil have one place.
PatitoFeo
Oct 11 2008, 01:39 AM
The Christmas tree formation produced a great victory over United a few years ago, with Seedorf impressing both home and away. Why are you so against it?
Granted, I agree that at home we need to attack attack attack
han2503
Oct 11 2008, 08:49 AM
QUOTE (PatitoFeo @ Oct 11 2008, 12:39 AM)
The Christmas tree formation produced a great victory over United a few years ago, with Seedorf impressing both home and away. Why are you so against it?
Granted, I agree that at home we need to attack attack attack
Because the formation with the 2 defensive mids is useless against teams that will put 11 men behind the ball. It's always the same thing. Like walking into a brick wall and being unable to score.
Hopefully when Pirlo comes back we can also ditch one of the defensive mids and go back to our old system that always worked.
Against big teams it's a really great system, and gives us the upper hand in the midfield battle but against teams that defend constantly it just does not work
Zed.D
Oct 11 2008, 02:46 PM
QUOTE (PatitoFeo @ Oct 11 2008, 04:09 AM)
The Christmas tree formation produced a great victory over United a few years ago, with Seedorf impressing both home and away. Why are you so against it?
Granted, I agree that at home we need to attack attack attack
Of course there are a couple of games in which the Christmas tree worked just fine. problem is there are A LOT of games in which the Christmas tree failed badly! mostly our league games over the past two seasons where, for whatever reason, we used to play most of our games with 1 striker. I think it's more than proved that this system doesn't work against the majority of Serie A sides. Carlo used this system against Inter, right decision, but we should've switched back to 4-3-1-2 for Cagliari game. in the CL, however, it's different story since there are mostly big sides and the games are held over two legs [I'm talking about the knockout stages. group stages are a joke for a team like Milan anyways]. Christmas tree could work there. that's why, IMO, Carlo is a CL type coach, not a league type coach.
Zed.D
Oct 11 2008, 03:17 PM
QUOTE
TOMORROW KAKA' AND PATO
10/11/2008
MILAN - Kakà and Pato will play tomorrow, Sunday October 12th, in the Venezuela-Brazil, at 3.30pm (local time) at San Cristobal.
How do they know Pato
will play?
dst
Oct 11 2008, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 11 2008, 05:17 PM)
How do they know Pato will play?
Leonardo just got off the phone with Dunga...
And... how do you know Kaka will play?
Darunia
Oct 11 2008, 06:20 PM
I think Borriello will start as long as he's fit, Carlo knows his importance. Either Pato or Ronaldinho will start alongside him. Maybe Ronnie will get the nod since he didn't play qualifiers like Pato/Kaka did.
Zed.D
Oct 11 2008, 07:53 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 11 2008, 06:54 PM)
And... how do you know Kaka will play?
Because Kaka will play?
dst
Oct 11 2008, 08:44 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 11 2008, 09:53 PM)
Because Kaka will play?
Oh yeah, my mistake...
Darunia
Oct 14 2008, 02:27 AM
TIRANA-MILAN: 27 ROSSONERI CALLED UP
10/13/2008
MILANELLO - Coach Carlo Ancelotti has called up 27 players for the away game in Tirana tomorrow:
GOALKEEPERS: Abbiati, Dida, Kalac;
DEFENDERS: Maldini, Kaladze, Nesta, Favalli, Senderos, Darmian, Pasini, Antonini, Colombo (59), Meregalli (61);
MIDFIELDERS: Emerson, Cardacio, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Flamini, Gianola (52);
STRIKERS: Inzaghi, Seedorf, Borriello, Shevchenko, Viudez, Ronaldinho, Angelilli (57), Scapuzzi (62).
| |
What? Pirlo called up? Isn't he still injured?
I would like to see lineup in the friendly:
Dida
Darmian Nesta Senderos Antonini
Flamini Emerson Cardacio
Seedorf
Inzaghi Shevchenko
Jack Sparrow
Oct 14 2008, 06:14 AM
I'd bench Seedorf and play Viudez.
han2503
Oct 14 2008, 06:49 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 14 2008, 06:14 AM)
I'd bench Seedorf and play Viudez.
You go Jack!! Fight the turtle power!!
Jack Sparrow
Oct 14 2008, 08:19 AM
I'm not fighting it. I'm just giving it time to recharge. I want us to bench that useless Kaka against Sampdoria.
Go black people!!
gal_kenny
Oct 14 2008, 05:51 PM
I don't understand how Sheva is called up for the Tirana match..isn't he s'posed to be playing a qualifier tomorrow or something?
MizNelson
Oct 14 2008, 08:34 PM
Nice to see Carlo played TwoGoalbiatti instead of Dida for a measly friendly.
acid911
Oct 14 2008, 08:43 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 15 2008, 12:34 AM)
Nice to see Carlo played TwoGoalbiatti instead of Dida for a measly friendly.
It's a wonderful world, after all.
Only Carlo can pull shtick like that, gotta respect him for this! I'd rather have seen that other towering goalkeeper we have, what's his name, Kalac than seeing our first choice play in this pointless friendly match.
Oh well, it takes all sorts of people to make the world go around. Can't complain!
han2503
Oct 14 2008, 09:33 PM
We managed to actually lose this one 2-1. Our goal scored by Dinho
acid911
Oct 14 2008, 10:39 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 15 2008, 01:33 AM)
We managed to actually lose this one 2-1. Our goal scored by Dinho
You're talking about which, match, exactly, Han?
The recent friendly match, I presume.
MizNelson
Oct 15 2008, 07:28 AM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 14 2008, 02:39 PM)
You're talking about which, match, exactly, Han?
The recent friendly match, I presume.
I think I realized after the fact that I posted about the friendly in the wrong thread. Oh well, I'm getting a cold, so I can't think clearly.
han2503
Oct 15 2008, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 14 2008, 10:39 PM)
You're talking about which, match, exactly, Han?
The recent friendly match, I presume.
Yep, since the topic has shifted on to it for the time being. Btw, Pippo managed to get injured again after just 45 minutes on the pitch.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 15 2008, 03:59 PM
Just a slight knock....he was taken off as a precaution. Stop being so melodramatic....
Zed.D
Oct 15 2008, 04:17 PM
^^
Sure it was not serious, but not just a slight knock either. they collided rather hardly!
acid911
Oct 15 2008, 04:18 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 15 2008, 11:28 AM)
I think I realized after the fact that I posted about the friendly in the wrong thread. Oh well, I'm getting a cold, so I can't think clearly.
No worries.
han2503
Oct 15 2008, 06:18 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 15 2008, 02:59 PM)
Just a slight knock....he was taken off as a precaution. Stop being so melodramatic....
'A slight knock' in Pippo's world is atleast a month out Jack, you should know this. He had a 'slight knock' also against Lugano last time and he was out for nearly a month. Let's face it Pippo's body is shutting down. He plays a couple of minutes and immediately goes down with some sort of muscle problem
CrazyMilanFan
Oct 15 2008, 07:26 PM
i think carlo mite go for r80 behind sheva and borrilleo for this one in 4-3-1-2 system bcoz pato and kaka will have jet leg thing flamini-ambro and seedorf in mdifield the only thing is the defence as nesta is said be not fully ready for this one then bonera/antonini-maldini-favilli/bonera-janku
CrazyMilanFan
Oct 15 2008, 07:28 PM
as for pippo i think paloschi should come back next year for him he cannot be considered a regular or a full time players i am afraid
gal_kenny
Oct 17 2008, 12:48 AM
i hope we do good and win this match...oh yea i must confess, i like the new upgrade on milan's official website
www.acmilan.com/index.aspx
gal_kenny
Oct 17 2008, 02:01 AM
Guys i was going through milan's matches in champions league and serie A on youtube for the last 3-4 seasons ago and we played with two strikers even against the most attacking team at that time, Barcelona and we beat them so why can't we play with two strikers now..What's the difference...We can play with two strikers and we have to play with two strikers against Samp on sunday...and win most esp
han2503
Oct 17 2008, 07:52 AM
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Oct 17 2008, 01:01 AM)
Guys i was going through milan's matches in champions league and serie A on youtube for the last 3-4 seasons ago and we played with two strikers even against the most attacking team at that time, Barcelona and we beat them so why can't we play with two strikers now..What's the difference...We can play with two strikers and we have to play with two strikers against Samp on sunday...and win most esp
Exactly what a lot on here have been trying to say.
The only explanation for this imo is that Carlo has reverted back to his old Juve days, a defensive minded coach known as a coward. We used to steam roll through teams like Reggina and Genoa a couple of seasons back and now we can't even score a single goal against them. It's all down to Carlo's overly conservative system. Hopefully we'll see Boriello with Sheva or Pato starting on Sunday, if we go the xmas tree route, we're most probably in for a draw, when this is a great time to try and catch up on Inter, seeing as they will face Roma
Jack Sparrow
Oct 17 2008, 09:13 AM
Any guess on the formation?
Since I'm not sure about Borriello, I'd expect a Ka-Pa-Ro to start, maybe moving to She-Pa-Ro later.
Hope to see Flamini, but I doubt it.
Zed.D
Oct 17 2008, 10:07 AM
No Ka-Pa-Ro
I'd rather Pato sits this out but we don't use the disgusting formation anymore...
vahid
Oct 17 2008, 11:12 AM
I prefer a Ka-Pa-Bo formation,or any other formations with 2 strikers
KillerMax
Oct 17 2008, 06:30 PM
What I want to see:
Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Jankulovski
Flamini
Kaka Ronaldinho Seedorf
Borriello Pato
What Carlo will probably go for:
Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Jankulovski
Flamini Seedorf Ambrosini
Kaka
Borriello Ronaldinho
Zed.D
Oct 17 2008, 06:58 PM
Ronaldinho stayed in Milan these two weeks, there's no way he's going to sit this 'home game' out
Berlu will want to watch him play.
I think this'll be
Carlo's formation and lineup:
Borriello
Dinho ------- Kaka
Gattuso ---- Seedorf ---- Ambrosini
Janku ----- Maldini ----- Bonera ----- Zambro
Abbiati
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