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gal_kenny
I want Carlo gone...What he's done for milan has been good and is in the past..we need a change of coach...Just like Madrid did...What other coaches and even players gave to that team in the past was good but there's been several changes, with coaches and players and now they're good..Even Inter..Despite Mancini winning the league he was still sacked but milan and its stupid family concept is killing milan as a whole..Goodbye Ancelotti never to return
kurtsimonw
I want him out for sure, I have for about 12 months! Not good enough anymore and he's pretty undefensable as of now. People can blame it on players, but at the end of the day it is Carlo's job to motivate the players.

Of the list I'd sa Rijkaard. He did a good job at Barca and is likely to play a more offensive game of football.
han2503
From that list the only viable option is Rijkaard, Spaletti is not available and all the other are a step down from what we alrady have

If this were to happen at the end of the season it would be a toss up between Spalletti and Prandelli
Zed.D
What the hell are Mancio and Grant doing there... rolleyes.gif

Anyway, I will want Carlo sacked if we lose against Lazio as well. if we're destined to lose, let's lose with a new coach. this is getting sickening now...

I'd take even Donadoni right now, let alone Rijkaard.
Tennie
If one MUST choose someone from that list, I'd pick Rijkaard.

I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Billy get a shot though.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 14 2008, 11:58 PM) *
I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Billy get a shot though.


As the head coach?
han2503
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 14 2008, 08:28 PM) *
If one MUST choose someone from that list, I'd pick Rijkaard.

I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Billy get a shot though.

Too inexperianced
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 15 2008, 01:23 AM) *
Too inexperianced


Pep Guardiola v2

Billy is welcome when he gained enough experience though. I think he can be like Capello.
whoarethepatriots
Everybody above Carlo needs to go too. Thats not to say Carlo has been absolved of guilt, as he is somewhat responsible; however when he asks for a WC CB and is given a faded ST and AM what do you expect.

The continued arrogance by Galliani and pretty much the whole management has gone too far. I want a complete change. Ambrosini as an able CB my a***. Everybody in the whole world knows our defence is broken but yet a 40 year is kept on from past merit and one of the premier league's worst defenders is brought in

It may be wishful thinking but i want the whole management gone. With regards to Ancelotti, it would have been for the best if he left end of last season, but we have to keep him till the end of season. Rikaard and Donadoni are steps backwards. Mario Beretta anyone?

Its too early to say if Costacurta will be like Capello, however he has been trained by some of the most gifted tacticians over the years. I definitely want to see him the future, but not right now
kurtsimonw
I think it's unfair on Carlo that he gets players he does wan't - which is the reason a DoF type role is just a cancer to a fotball club - but he doesn't exactly have a system to go out and win games. The system Carlo uses requires individul brilliance to win games, otherwise we have no chance.

As for Galliani, his arrogance is really starting to kick him in his ***, this guy is the biggest joke in football. He makes Mike Ashley seem okay.
CrazyMilanFan
well tillnext week we wil be more clear 2 games between that so the board can judge during that time and i think zico can be added to this list as well
acid911
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 15 2008, 03:17 AM) *
well tillnext week we wil be more clear 2 games between that so the board can judge during that time and i think zico can be added to this list as well

I hope. I'd take Zico over any of these any time of the day. cool.gif It's about the club getting out of this family business stuff. There are far more decent coaches available, some even better than Carlo. We just have to look with an open mind, and presto!
gal_kenny
I just added Zico..Wasn't Zico Fernabache's coach last season?
Portman
We need someone:

-Motivated
-Experienced
-Strict

Therefore: Rijkaard, Donadoni and Mancini would be bad choices. Zico and Grant, I don't think so. I chose Spaletti from that list but I've some doubts about him.

Cesare Prandelli and Mourinho would be the ideal choices. Too bad that ain't gonna happen and we'll stick some months to a muppett like Rijkaard who won't last long.
Tennie
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 14 2008, 06:52 PM) *
Cesare Prandelli and Mourinho would be the ideal choices. Too bad that ain't gonna happen and we'll stick some months to a muppett like Rijkaard who won't last long.


(You really like the term muppet, don't you Porty? I do too and keep conjuring up images of Rijkaard-as-Fozzy-Bear).

Probably pretty darn close to the truth, unfortunately. I think we're hosed if we change NOW. It would've been better to do it in June so the new guy would have time with the players in preseason, etc. At this point, the really good coaches are hardly likely to leave their clubs and while I do rather like Rijkaard, he's not at all good at dealing with people and so I'm not sure he'd be that great in Milan.

I'd love Prandelli but doubt he's likely to leave Florence anytime soon.

Our options then seem to be to stick with Carletto and suffer through the humiliation, to ditch Carletto and stick in someone like Rijkaard who's probably not going to work out and then bring in a new guy in June anyway, or to ditch Carletto and leave it in the hands of the poor sods who've been assistant coaching.

Can it be June yet?
acid911
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Sep 15 2008, 03:40 AM) *
I just added Zico..Wasn't Zico Fernabache's coach last season?

I already voted. sad.gif Spaletti. If I could change it, it'd be Zico without a doubt - a decent tactical mind, offensive and an overall class guy. Could very well fit in with us. Too bad Van Basten isn't available.
Habitant
i would love Cesare Prandelli (he should be listed) or even Spalletti, but it dont see that happening. of the possible candidates i'd go for Rijkaard just because he has had some club success, while donadoni hasnt dont anything yet (although i would be terribly disappointed with him). all i want is for carlo to leave, NOW!
KillerMax
Who says it will be a disaster if we change the coach right now? Look what happened with Palermo. wink.gif
kurtsimonw
Yeah, but you can see the other side. Look what happened when Chelsea got rid of Jose.. oh, wait, that's right, they came 2nd in the league while making 2 cup finals!

The thing is, there's no guarantee it will make us any better. But it sure as hell can't make it any worse, we need to show a little ambition. And personally, I think whoever we bring in needs to have a bit more control and the players we get. There's no point in Galliani signings players that the manager doesn't want.
Zed.D
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 15 2008, 09:44 AM) *
Who says it will be a disaster if we change the coach right now? Look what happened with Palermo. wink.gif


No one can tell if changing the coach right now will result or fail. it's a huge risk but thing is right now we're losing, and in embarrassing fashion that is, let's at least lose with someone else!! that's my motto right now!

We're repeating last season's performances. 11 new players have come and 5 have left and we're still exactly the same team. Carlo claims he can 'fix' things but I doubt. a few more defeats and he'll definitely be sacked (MO) and if he's going to be sacked anytime soon, we'll have to do with one of the available option like Donadoni or Rijkaard.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Sep 15 2008, 06:48 AM) *
Carlo claims he can 'fix' things but I doubt.

Yeah, he's been saying that for nearly 12 months now, when we went on that poor run at home at the start of last season. The last time we were really any good in the league was early/mid 2006, that's 2 and a half years.. it's just too long.
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 15 2008, 10:31 AM) *
Yeah, he's been saying that for nearly 12 months now, when we went on that poor run at home at the start of last season. The last time we were really any good in the league was early/mid 2006, that's 2 and a half years.. it's just too long.


I agree about that. I've been hearing these promises for a long time too! but let's see how he does with his [probably] last chance...
Jack Sparrow
Whoopie...been a long time since I posted. I'd prefer the new guy to come in some time with a break happening, so that he can tune in with the team.

Looking back, if they intended to make a revolution in the first team, then the coach should have been the first to go.

Anyway, if Carletto is to be fired, my pick is Donadoni. I'd rather have someone who's played in Serie A before, and is used to the tactical approach.

Rijkaard is Dutch...therefore like Porty said a liability to be tactically f@cked (but Porty used the r-word..naughty naught Porty)

Rijkaard might bring out the whole Ronaldinho conundrum again. We'd be cutting our noses to spite our face.


Donadoni is Italian...ergo he might be just as stubborn too, but we'll see.


For now, if Carletto says he'll fix it, I'll wait and watch him fix it. Hope to see an improvement in the next few games.
acid911
Best post, Jack. king.gif Your views were missed.
gal_kenny
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 15 2008, 01:05 PM) *
Whoopie...been a long time since I posted. I'd prefer the new guy to come in some time with a break happening, so that he can tune in with the team.

Looking back, if they intended to make a revolution in the first team, then the coach should have been the first to go.

Anyway, if Carletto is to be fired, my pick is Donadoni. I'd rather have someone who's played in Serie A before, and is used to the tactical approach.

Rijkaard is Dutch...therefore like Porty said a liability to be tactically f@cked (but Porty used the r-word..naughty naught Porty)

Rijkaard might bring out the whole Ronaldinho conundrum again. We'd be cutting our noses to spite our face.


Donadoni is Italian...ergo he might be just as stubborn too, but we'll see.


For now, if Carletto says he'll fix it, I'll wait and watch him fix it. Hope to see an improvement in the next few games.


Nice post jack...however, look at mourinho...He hadn't played in italy before and He's made inter stronger..with 10 men, inter didn't look like they were playing with one man down...Donadoni didn't succeed italy's coach...He's a good manager but i don't think i want him in milan...We need a team that can attack and defend at the same time and Rijkaard or Zico can do that...Donadoni is more of a defensive minded coach...Carlo should be fired..c'mon we lost 5-6 games in a row now...from the friendlies...How bad can a coach like that be...always giving excuses claiming we'll be better next time and we've seen the result..(even worse)..Carlo needs to go..
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 15 2008, 03:05 PM) *
For now, if Carletto says he'll fix it, I'll wait and watch him fix it. Hope to see an improvement in the next few games.


Milan wont sack a two time winning CL coach, irrespective of what ppl on a forum believe. It sure is a difficult time, but all in all, he hasn't had enough time with the new players due to international games all summer and the qualifiers. This week will be a challenge for him, to get the team to collaborate more and bring out the best it can offer.

drucurl
I'm sticking with Ancelotti....I'm a pretty stubborn lad and once someone has been good to me (Ancelotti & Ronaldo) I tend to take a looooot of $#!t from them smile.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Portikins @ Sep 14 2008, 04:52 PM) *
We need someone:

-Motivated
-Experienced
-Strict

Therefore: Rijkaard, Donadoni and Mancini would be bad choices. Zico and Grant, I don't think so. I chose Spaletti from that list but I've some doubts about him.

Cesare Prandelli and Mourinho would be the ideal choices. Too bad that ain't gonna happen and we'll stick some months to a muppett like Rijkaard who won't last long.


sounds like me lol.

In all seriousness though, porty your 100% right once again. We should have sold him to chelsea when they were bidding for him or something lol.
vnata001
anyone know if leonardo can coach?
kurtsimonw
I like Leonardo, he is usually part of the BBC team during the World Cups and he has good knowledge of the game and seems to be an intelligent guy. I wouldn't mind himm but I think I'd prefer him to be an assistant to a more experienced coach for now.
Tennie
I'd prefer Leonardo in charge of transfers, personally.

But yeah, he's a charming guy with extremely good English (we get some of his stuff when he does punditry for the English media) and he's smart. Seems to be good at finding talents too.
Zed.D
Hopefully Leonardo will be Galliani's heir in the future.
Jack Sparrow
Don't think so. Galliani has a financial brain which has stood us in great stead over the years. Leonardo would make a good Director of Football, maybe at a stretch he could replace Braida. But Galliani is overall a better Chief Executive. I also think Galliani does listen a bit to his advisors. Not like Moratti or that clown Zamparini.
dst
I think Baresi is the best available choice right now.
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