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IoRDanCHo
Ok, I agree KaKa is what is holdin' us together, but why does it have to be that way? Why do we always have to pray for him to make a great match and to carry us on his back every single game! He is not an alien, he is a human like everyone else who playes football! He needs someone he can combine with, someone who can run along with!
If nothing is going to be made, that better for him to be sold and play for another team, that can provide young footballers he can play with and win another golden ball!
And as for Milan... I'll stop care about football and all, while this continues...
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 12 2008, 03:01 PM)
Er. Just to be clear, you're talking about people on the Milan board of directors, right?smile.gif
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yes tongue.gif not you tennie tongue.gif if you leave my heart will be shattered into thousands of pieces.
Zed.D
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 13 2008, 12:19 AM)
Then what, what do you think you're going to do? Switch off you computer or break off the screen?
It's not like we're neighbours otherwise I wont even bother answer that kind of statement ... wink.gif
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No, smart man. there are mods here. this is a forum not your mama's home wink.gif
arivanjj
any predictions on Carlo and Galliani's comments? biggrin.gif
morgoth
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 10:01 PM)
sorry but i dont like to think that oh because were milan and we've had a wonderful past, that teams will just bend down and give us head.
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Man it has nothing to do with prestige, history of what ever you're talking about, it's just that normally when you love a club you stick with it even in bad moments, it's called commitment. But I can easily understand people who are committed to success, power or talent, I don't agree but I understand.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Apr 12 2008, 03:04 PM)
any predictions on Carlo and Galliani's comments? biggrin.gif
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yeah

Galliani: Thank you for the wonderful years at the club but i feel like my resigning is the correct choice in the current situation.

Carlo: I've had a wonderful time at this club and have ventured through many trophys. However i feel that i should aswell resign from the club due to the current situation.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 12 2008, 03:06 PM)
Man it has nothing to do with prestige, history of what ever you're talking about, it's just that normally when you love a club you stick with it even in bad moments, it's called commitment. But I can easily understand people who are committed to success, power or talent, I don't agree but I understand.
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dont doubt my milanism. I am a milanista. If i wasn't i wouldn't get mad that the likes of favalli and simic play for this club. I would think oh poor result, now lets switch the tele to liverpool game.
Tennie
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 05:02 PM)
yes  tongue.gif not you tennie tongue.gif  if you leave my heart will be shattered into thousands of pieces.
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Awwww! The fish doll might have to find a cookie for that comment. Thank you. 96.gif

As for myself, I agree with Morgoth's statement about commitment to the club even when they're playing like cack.
fahad
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 13 2008, 02:07 AM)
yeah

Galliani:  Thank you for the wonderful years at the club but i feel like my resigning is the correct choice in the current situation.

Carlo:  I've had a wonderful time at this club and have ventured through many trophys.  However i feel that i should aswell resign from the club due to the current situation.
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Next year

Vice president: R10
Coach: sheva
maldini03
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 12:56 PM)
root for what?  a team that plays for 60 minutes then acts as if there too high and mighty to play the rest of the game?  No thanks, i would rather cheer for kaka.
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High and Mighty what game were you watching?
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 12:58 PM)
if we dont make champions league, the club has to go thru a revolution.  That cannot be ignored!!  Players and board members need to leave.
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The sad thuth is that if we dont get CL that is the last thing the board will do, they will say that the only reason the team didnt do good this year is because of the hectic schedule(which is pretty acurate) and without CL $$ comming in little $$ will be dished out
Bluesummers
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Apr 12 2008, 03:10 PM)
High and Mighty what game were you watching?

The sad thuth is that if we dont get CL that is the last thing the board will do, they will say that the only reason the team didnt do good this year is because of the hectic schedule(which is pretty acurate) and without CL $$ comming in little $$ will be dished out
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no man i dont think this summer will be like that. Have you ever seen so many milanfans this angry. THINGS WILL BE DONE!
maldini03
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 01:08 PM)
dont doubt my milanism.  I am a milanista.  If i wasn't i wouldn't get mad that the likes of favalli and simic play for this club.  I would think oh poor result, now lets switch the tele to liverpool game.
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Simic was outstanding today!!
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 01:11 PM)
no man i dont think this summer will be like that.  Have you ever seen so many milanfans this angry.  THINGS WILL BE DONE!
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Agree to Disagree. I doubt money will be dished out and i highly doubt a revolution. dry.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Apr 12 2008, 03:13 PM)
Simic was outstanding today!!
Agree to Disagree. I doubt money will be dished out and i highly doubt a revolution. dry.gif
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simic was bad in first half. second half was more like his usual standards.

We have a lot of money trust me. We are one of the richest clubs in the world with virutally zero debt. Little will come from silvio.
morgoth
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Apr 12 2008, 10:03 PM)
No, smart man. there are mods here. this is a forum not your mama's home  wink.gif
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No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
Bluesummers
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 12 2008, 03:14 PM)
No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it  realmad.gif  realmad.gif  realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
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easy bro. Its one thing to hate the game but its another to totally dish out on another member. Were all angry for the same reason, milan is destroying their name. We are not here to insult other members.
Zed.D
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 13 2008, 12:44 AM)
No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it  realmad.gif  realmad.gif  realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
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I'm not the one who started insulting other members out of nothing. you were, you honourable man wink.gif
mishie
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 12 2008, 09:14 PM)
No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it  realmad.gif  realmad.gif  realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
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we try and be polite to each other here so PLEASE reframe fro calling fellow members jackasses and other names please, take 10mins to cool off and chill out
kurtsimonw
I wish people would stop doing 2 things:

1) Getting all worked up and over the top for people criticising Maldini - He made mistakes, therefore he deserves to get the blame.

2) Doubting people are Milan fans because they are critical. It's just pathetic.
maldini03
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 01:14 PM)
simic was bad in first half. second half was more like his usual standards.

We have a lot of money trust me.  We are one of the richest clubs in the world with virutally zero debt.  Little will come from silvio.
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Simic, Bonera, Maldini, Kaka, and Inzaghi were the only ones playing though Inzaghi didnt have to do much.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Apr 12 2008, 03:17 PM)
I'm not the one who started insulting other members out of nothing. you were, you honourable man  wink.gif
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lets not add to the fire please. smile.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Apr 12 2008, 03:19 PM)
Simic, Bonera, Maldini, Kaka, and Inzaghi were the only ones playing though Inzaghi didnt have to do much.
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true that. Maldini def should play another season. bonera should getting starting over oddo soon. inzaghi well wub.gif kaka is always godlike king.gif
redbabies
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 12 2008, 11:14 PM)
No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it  realmad.gif  realmad.gif  realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
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Where do you come from, Morgoth?
fahad
Carlo Ancelotti has regrets over Milan’s defeat in Turin and admits this puts a spanner in the works for the rest of the season.

“It certainly complicates our plans, as we were counting on a different result. We tried to get a win, but come away empty-handed and that makes it tougher for the next few games,” said the Rossoneri Coach.

They are four points adrift of Fiorentina in fourth place and if the Viola get a result against Inter tomorrow evening, it will make it extremely difficult for Milan to reach the Champions League.

“We played a great first half, put Juve under pressure and scored two goals. It’s a shame we were unable to go into the break 2-1 up.”

The match changed after Daniele Bonera’s straight dismissal for a horrific tackle on Momo Sissoko.

“The second half was trickier, especially after the red card. We tried to bring home a point that would have been, all things considered, an important result.”

There was controversy for the winning goal, though, as Paolo Maldini was harshly penalised for a challenge on Zdenek Grygera and from that free kick Hasan Salihamidzic secured the 3-2 result.

“Let us say the free kick that decided the match was a ‘gift’ to Juventus, as unless the rules have changed then a shoulder to shoulder challenge is allowed,” complained Ancelotti.

“Tonight we had a ‘short’ team, considering Juve had so many very tall players who are good in the air. We only had Massimo Ambrosini and Maldini who could counter them and that ensured Juventus were more effective on set pieces.”

It is another example of Milan putting in a good performance, but not bringing home the points.

“The fact we are able to train regularly for a week has certainly improved our condition and quality of play. The worrying thing is that the results haven’t improved!”
Bluesummers
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 12 2008, 03:18 PM)
I wish people would stop doing 2 things:

1) Getting all worked up and over the top for people criticising Maldini - He made mistakes, therefore he deserves to get the blame.

2) Doubting people are Milan fans because they are critical. It's just pathetic.
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agreed. But overall maldini was our best defender.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (fahad @ Apr 12 2008, 03:20 PM)
Carlo Ancelotti has regrets over Milan’s defeat in Turin and admits this puts a spanner in the works for the rest of the season.

“It certainly complicates our plans, as we were counting on a different result. We tried to get a win, but come away empty-handed and that makes it tougher for the next few games,” said the Rossoneri Coach.

They are four points adrift of Fiorentina in fourth place and if the Viola get a result against Inter tomorrow evening, it will make it extremely difficult for Milan to reach the Champions League.

“We played a great first half, put Juve under pressure and scored two goals. It’s a shame we were unable to go into the break 2-1 up.”

The match changed after Daniele Bonera’s straight dismissal for a horrific tackle on Momo Sissoko.

“The second half was trickier, especially after the red card. We tried to bring home a point that would have been, all things considered, an important result.”

There was controversy for the winning goal, though, as Paolo Maldini was harshly penalised for a challenge on Zdenek Grygera and from that free kick Hasan Salihamidzic secured the 3-2 result.

“Let us say the free kick that decided the match was a ‘gift’ to Juventus, as unless the rules have changed then a shoulder to shoulder challenge is allowed,” complained Ancelotti.

“Tonight we had a ‘short’ team, considering Juve had so many very tall players who are good in the air. We only had Massimo Ambrosini and Maldini who could counter them and that ensured Juventus were more effective on set pieces.”

It is another example of Milan putting in a good performance, but not bringing home the points.

“The fact we are able to train regularly for a week has certainly improved our condition and quality of play. The worrying thing is that the results haven’t improved!”
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OMG please stfu already. I've had enough bullsh*t from you. Tell the players they either play and win or they gtfo to another team. Next galliani will come and spurt more BS at the fans.
fahad
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 13 2008, 02:22 AM)
OMG please stfu already.  I've had enough bullsh*t from you.  Tell the players they either play and win or they gtfo to another team.  Next galliani will come and spurt more BS at the fans.
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yea he will add that juve second was offside
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 09:21 PM)
agreed.  But overall maldini was our best defender.
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Which says alot about why we'll be playing in the UEFA Cup next season.

P.S. Who was the last Milan coach that failed to get into the CL?
gawlo
Pls tell me did Bonera get straight red card or he was booked earlier with yellow?
redbabies
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 12 2008, 11:25 PM)
Which says alot about why we'll be playing in the UEFA Cup next season.

P.S. Who was the last Milan coach that failed to get into the CL?
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Fatih Terim, I think unsure.gif
maldini03
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 01:20 PM)
true that.  Maldini def should play another season.  bonera should getting starting over oddo soon.  inzaghi well wub.gif  kaka is always godlike  king.gif
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Definately Bonera after todays performance except for the red
Bonera>>>>>>Oddo
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 01:21 PM)
agreed.  But overall maldini was our best defender.
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Disagree Simic was good having played only 3 games.
morgoth
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 10:16 PM)
easy bro.  Its one thing to hate the game but its another to totally dish out on another member.  Were all angry for the same reason, milan is destroying their name.  We are not here to insult other members.
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Apr 12 2008, 10:17 PM)
I'm not the one who started insulting other members out of nothing. you were, you honourable man  wink.gif
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Insulting?! My posts are still there, I'd like you to show me in witch one exactly I insulted you! If you think "shut up" is an insult then I'll be the first one to apologize, no problem about that, but talking about my mother is more than disrespect realmad.gif
whoarethepatriots
QUOTE (gawlo @ Apr 12 2008, 09:26 PM)
Pls tell me did Bonera get straight red card or he was booked earlier with yellow?
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Straight red
Zed.D
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 13 2008, 12:58 AM)
Insulting?! My posts are still there, I'd like you to show me in witch one exactly I insulted you! If you think "shut up" is an insult then I'll be the first one to apologize, no problem about that, but talking about my mother is more than disrespect realmad.gif
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Look, I'm not that kind of person... you started it all and insulted me [and also Porty] not once but twice. even though you started the whole thing but I'm sorry if I insulted you!! now let's forget it.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 12 2008, 10:14 PM)
No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it  realmad.gif  realmad.gif  realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
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Calm down. We do need to be rational. It's not time to die yet...

This is gonna be my last post today, I'm full of ****
Let's make a flashback. Season 1996/7; for all you young folks (I consider myself young too, but I followed Milan before I've learned walking)

Table:
1. Juventus 65
2. Parma 63
3. Inter 59
4. Lazio 55
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11. Milan 43


Our derby results:
Juventus - lost 6:1 (H), drew 0:0 (A)
Inter - lost 3:1 (A), drew 1:1 (H)
Parma - lost 1:0 (H), drew 0:0 (H)
Lazio - lost 3:0 (A), drew 2:2 (H)

some other results: Milan-Verona 1:3, Roma-Milan 3:0, Milan-Vicenza 0:2
goals scored: 43
goals conceeded: 45 (means -2)

coaches: Morini, Tabarez, Sacchi
players: Baresi, Billy, Weah, Albertini, Boban, Desailly, Maldini, Savicevic, Vierchowod, Ambrosini, etc.
morgoth
QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 12 2008, 10:20 PM)
Where do you come from, Morgoth?
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http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6017
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 12 2008, 10:26 PM)
Fatih Terim, I think  unsure.gif
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No, it was Alberto Zaccheroni/Cesare Maldini. Actually, Zach's fault and Cesare had to take over and make the derby win, just to rescue the season..
Habitant
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Apr 12 2008, 09:22 PM)
OMG please stfu already.  I've had enough bullsh*t from you.  Tell the players they either play and win or they gtfo to another team.  Next galliani will come and spurt more BS at the fans.
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whether or not he's a good coach how the fack can you have a guy with this sorta attitude running ur team?

one of the worst campaigns in milan history and he's got upset once at his players!
Habitant
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 12 2008, 09:14 PM)
No what, have even understood what I was talking about, and you're bring my mother into it  realmad.gif  realmad.gif  realmad.gif

How old are you man?

I don't where you're coming from but in my country people die for their honour, and obviously you don't have any, otherwise you wont talk like that, jackass!!!
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what you head butt for honour?
Tennie
Basta.

Guys, please drop the argument.
morgoth
QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 12 2008, 11:15 PM)
what you head butt for honour?
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What does that mean?

Edit. Ok I got it now "head-butt" blush.gif
I think I saw butt first so I was thinking ... well you better don't know dry.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 13 2008, 01:45 AM)
what you head butt for honour?
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( biggrin.gif )
agenth
Well, what can I say. First half superb, second half horrible.

Kaka losing ball after ball, etc... didn't help either. Horrible defense, and the choice of players, when our regulars are out, is simply below mediocre. IMO Bonera is a good defender, albeit maybe 'young' and 'inexperienced'.

I'm seriously questioning Carlo's training. What do our players do all day in Milanello? Are they even playing 2 x 45 minutes as a Training? It seems like they play 1x 45 minutes, which is seriously stupid and has no good effects. How is one supposed to copy the match situation in a training?

the neglectfulness has once again (as always these days) caught our players.
morgoth
Ok here's what I though of the match, even if I couldn't see the whole of it!

The first half was pretty good one, we played well up front and the zebras defence helped Kaka alot, it's a shame Seedorf was playing too deep, Pippo was great, he scored twice and benefited from the young and inexperienced zebra defence. Pirlo was mediocre and Seedorf just average, Ambro was Ambro smile.gif Our defence was, as expected very shaky, and Simic was not up to the chalenge, but honestly I don't blame him, I mean what did you expect from someone who played 3 or 4 games in the whole season!

In the second, both teams slowed down and tightened their lines, but the red card and Carlo made the difference, I mean why on earth did he take off Inzaghi, when Pirlo and Seedorf were nearly sleeping, basecly he choose to hold down the score witch is never good, especially with the players he had on the pitch.

Anyway, I was not really surprised about the result by the fact that we had the lead and lost it, and the way we played the first half makes me "grrrr" (I don't know what's the word in english). Let's just hope Sampdoria and Udinese don't win tomorrow otherwise we'll be 7th ohmy.gif
kurtsimonw
Where do you have to finish in Italy in order to make the UEFA Cup?

If it's top 6, maybe we should start taking the Coppa more seriously in future seasons? Our arrogance has certainly kicked us in the teeth this year.
MizNelson
QUOTE (kurtsimonw)
I wish people would stop doing 2 things:

1) Getting all worked up and over the top for people criticising Maldini - He made mistakes, therefore he deserves to get the blame.

Agreed. We shouldn't Teflon-coat Maldini when he makes mistakes because of his godly status with the club.

I believe it's spots 5-7 to qualify for the UEFA Cup.

QUOTE (Carlo)
“Tonight we had a ‘short’ team, considering Juve had so many very tall players who are good in the air."

That's a new one. rolleyes.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 13 2008, 12:02 AM)
Our arrogance has certainly kicked us in the teeth this year.
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If you're arrogant but a winner at the same time it's natural.
If you're arrogant and a loser then you look like a cnut. That's where Milan is atm.
morgoth
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 13 2008, 12:02 AM)
Where do you have to finish in Italy in order to make the UEFA Cup?

If it's top 6, maybe we should start taking the Coppa more seriously in future seasons? Our arrogance has certainly kicked us in the teeth this year.
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It's the 5th and 6th
Tennie
It may come as a surprise to some, but I agree with Porty's comment. Milan has become too arrogant for its own good. This season will hopefully kick some humility into the team. They shouldn't take anything for granted - not the owner, the management, the coach, or the players.
Portman
The 7th place it's not the UEFA Cup.

It's only the 5th/6th.
Nova
If we fail to reach 4th spot I prefer that Milan doesnt even play Uefa Cup . Whats the point winning a cup in a final played against CL rejects ? And who says we're gonna win it ? Like we needed penalties to beat Roda JC the last time ? NO thanks !!
Just concentrate 100% on the scudetto next season and ONLY the scudetto.

And we can start by getting rid of useless players (favalli , gila , ...) and get some class player worthy of the Milan shirt.

They do that and Im a happy man.
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