I dont think so. In Football Manager it never seems to happen so i doubt it will happen here

You can't just see it like that though.

In games we actually try to go out and win we play a much better team and maximum 3 subs are brought on to blend with those players when we want to rest certain players. In this game we had a first 11 that rarely ever played together, and at moment we had guys like Cafu playing in the play maker role.

Imo it was a total disaster, I would be surprised if they even took time to prepare for this match.

Simple fact is that we never take Coppa seriously, the formations Carlo sends out to play these games should be evidence enough. And I'm not really disappointed since now our fixture list might be 2-4 games lighter, which is something of a bonus considering the gruling schedulr we're about to face this moneth and the one after it

That was tedious... it has to be one of the worst games by Milan in the last decade. Plenty of passion in the second half but no quality at all...

The only one that deserves a mention is in my view Bonera who even at the left flank (...) managed to outshine his teammates.

What a goal by Vargas!!

Yep. It was a question of motivation not ability

Carlo needs to see this and hopefully start playing him next to Nesta, starting from next Sunday where we can't afford to make mistakes in the 6 pointer game against Udine

Anyway, we should forget about this match and look ahead to what's really important, which is the game on Sunday, because if we win that one it will be a super boost for our climb up the table.

Imo Carlo made the right decision in resting all the players that will play in that match. Except for Rino who had a 15 minute run out today

But these matches should be good for those who don't get much play time and it helps them too be better prepared when they get the chance to play a more important game. They should not have a problem with motivation because this is the chance for them too show that they want a starting place.



EDIT: I do agree with when U said that we have less games too worry about.

There remains no doubt that Gila should sit on the bench on Sunday. KaPaRo all the way!

Was a bad game, when the first half ended I switched to Madrid's game. It was quite evident, there was no passion, as also evident that Carlo 'might' have told his top players to take it easy and treat it like a friendly. Seeing as we have more important games coming up.


Oh well, bye bye coppa .. Hello CL

yeah well, don't remember our good matches in coppa which is a shame, but it's also hard for our substitutes...milan has more or less the same squad whole season, and then in coppa 4x times in a year(cause we dont manage more) we have completely another squad on the pitch,lots of them having those like only matches in season...how can we expect then from them to win??...

I've now seen the game. It was a woeful performance on the whole.

There were a couple of bright spots: Bonera (who I'm liking more and more) did as well as he could. And Paloschi was really quite good. He held his own and finished that goal neatly. Hopefully we'll see more of this kid. He, at least, was motivated.

This game shows our lack of depth off the bench. Our only strength in that game was Pirlo and Emerson in the middle controlling things, but they are more holding midfielders and not really effective at going forward. Then of there was Bonera, he has the youth and skill.

It pathetic because this gives these young guys and bench players a chance to shine and they couldn't even compete with a second rate team.
Again Gilardino with the golden flop award. Lets get Torres, RVN, or Ibrahamvic but no we have Gilardino and we have faith in him. Our biggest problems have been scoring and the Pato and Ronaldo debut shows the kind of play we can have with a couple of real forwards up top working with Seedorf and Kaka.

I always thought red cards do carry over into Serie A, since they're both domestic competitions, I may be wrong, though.

We really have no bench at all, and AGAIN Gila is stuffed up front on his own. What happens when we bring another striker on? Gila gets an assist for the goal. Hopefully this tells Carlo something.

He also missed a few easy chances even in the second half like a 1on1 that any striker should convert to a goal.

Yes, and that's his confidence problem in my opinion.

Gila is NEVER going to be any use to us if we play him in..
1) Coppa games where he's playing with average players, not getting the proper service that Pato and Ronaldo are getting.
2) Games where he's stuck up front on his own.

Play him with Pato and Kaka' and we'll see him improve, like he did with Sheva. Otherwise we may as well sell him and watch him come big for Juve or something.

Confidence or not confidence he received enough of good passes today and should have done better. You want a place in the first 11? then you should know how to prove it in a games like this, instead of giving Carlo another reason to not play him in the leagie. Nobody is gonna wait X games till he gets his mojo back, especially when important games coming up and players like Pato And Ronaldo are ready to do the job.

I agree with you that he's giving Carlo no reason to play him in the league. But even so, he should still be starting, I can't see what R9 and Pippo have done that he hasn't. In terms of strikers in Milan at the moment, it's not about who's done enough to start, it's more who hasn't done enough so they shouldn't be playing.

But I have no problem with R9 starting up front with Pato, I think Alex will improve his game playing alongside Ronnie!

For one thing, R9 when he's playing = goals or/and efficiency for the team. When you have an important game (like even vs Udinese for example) it's obvious who (any) coach is gonna pick. If you want to start then you better use the chances you get or sit on the f@cking bench and wait for another injury problems.

exactly...he's just not a type of lone player, at least not in our tactic...he was a "lone" player in parma, but had attacking winger from both sides. It may be a stupid comparisment, but like in basketball you can't expect CENTRE to score 30 point per game if he doesn't have the right support...

But Ronaldo was never used alone... I mean, Gilardino might not be the best forward there is but whenever Ronaldo was fit, Carletto fielded both him and Gila and never the Brazilian alone. That is telling in my opinion... if he was crap he would just leave him out and play with R9...

This is what Carlo had to say after the match:

"Even though we didn't qualify it was a good match for the effort we put in and the way we played it. We started a bit slowly, but then in the second half we played well. Unfortunately we did not take advantage of our numerical superiority because of two mistakes by Gattuso.

Paloschi did very well on the goal, once again he showed he has good qualities and I think he's a player who should be helped.

Now we must think about doing well in the league, already at Udine on Sunday and then there are three more important games and the Coppa Italia involvement could have got us in trouble, now we have the opportunity to prepare better."

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In other words he wanted to say: We wanted to get knocked-out!

I totally think uv got a point there ... But on another note, Ronaldo and Pippo wont be playing every 3 days, so Gila will get chances to play (and though I hate the prospect of that), I 'hope' he can finally get his scoring boots back on (If he can find them ).

^^^

He only wears them when he's with Alice.

Looking at Pato on and off the field, it's obvious Ale never takes it off.

And Pippo and Ari's b!tch obviously take theirs off when they leave the field




But honestly..I think Gila should play, now that he's finally got the system to play in.

I agree with kurt and *shudder* dst...he IS not a creative forward. And in Milan, he's played very little with winger forwards.

It's not fair that Sheva gets excused for being stuck in a system that doesn't suit him, while Gila gets the stick.

*Waits for my Israeli pal to come out with his Uzis(Btw misha..I got this e-mail forward of girls in the Israeli army. Hotttttttt!!! )*


I think Gila should play alongside R99 and/or Pato. He fills in for the type of striker that we don't have. He might not be the out and out poacher Pippo is, but he does hold the ball, and he never ever stops trying(something that can't always be said about Pippo). I think Gila is just getting better and better. And he's got one of the cutest WAG in Italy. Gila stays.


@Mo: Don't hurt me bro...at the most you'll just have to hold on till June...till the verdict's out on Gila.

I agree, he does not have the characteristics to play upfront on his own

Exactly.

And this is just a case of one rule for one player, and a different rule for others.

I do agree that I was p!ssed off at that. He should have scored that, but I always see the treatment Gila gets from some on here as extremely unfair. People on here still defend guys like Dida and Kaladze with every breath day take. And when they screw up it's usually much more concequential to the the team when Gila misses a chance like that.

And as dst, kurt and the old Cap'n have said, Gila this season hasn't been given the ideal system to work in, he's always played in the xmas tree formation when we all know he can't do sh!t with it, and neither does Pippo to be fair.

I think given the chance to play along side Pato or Ronnie, we will see a vast improvement in his game. When he's played next to guys like Sheva or Ronaldo he's always done great and I expect him to do well with Pato to once they start playing together.

The fact is though that we need to forget Gila as someone being our Sheva replacement, someone that can shoulder the team on his own with his goals. And we also need to stop thinking of Gila as some sort of complete striker that can dribble from one end to the pitch to the other and then score a screamer from the edge of the box. He's a box striker, and when playing the xmas tree formation you need someone that is more then that for it to work. If we're going to play with one striker and it's going to be Gila then we would have to adapt a system that involves wingers, that would be much more suited to Gila's play.

Exactly !!

Thank you