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Portman
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Chelsea and AC lead Pato race



By ANDREW HAIGH
June 26, 2007

CHELSEA are facing stiff competition from AC Milan for Brazilian wonderkid Alexandre Pato.

Striker Pato will star in the Under-20 World Cup next month - even though he is one of the youngest players in the competition at 17.

Some of Europe's top clubs will send their scouts to keep tabs on the Internacional ace.

But Pato's agent Gilmar Veloz has revealed European Champions Milan and the Blues are already leading the race for his signature.

Veloz said: "There are possibilities and official interest that is not invented.

"The club know about everything. Internacional allowed a representative from Milan - Leonardo (scout) - to look at him.


"Chelsea also sent a person who was interested. But nothing is certain.

"Internacional have the federative rights to the player and they are taking care of it with us."

If Chelsea do strike a deal for the £18million-rated starlet, Veloz believes they may have to wait to get their man.

Pato would struggle to get a work permit and that could be a stumbling block in any move.

Veloz added: "Nothing will be done without the agreement of the club so the Internacional fans can be calm because Pato has contract with the club until 2009.

"But because he is not 18 yet, he cannot leave before January 2008."


Chelsea's sporting director Frank Arnesen has a history of bringing Brazilian stars to Europe.

He took a 17-year-old Ronaldo to PSV Eindhoven for £4million in 1994.

And Arnesen hopes he can produce similar results with the capture of Pato this summer.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390...7290291,00.html
kurtsimonw
I'm a little confused with this 'work permit' lark. What does it actually mean? and why is it so hard to get one?

If anybody knows. smile.gif
HasanHasanly
i think you have to be 18 to be able to work abroad... and he is 17 smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jun 26 2007, 08:39 AM)
i think you have to be 18 to be able to work abroad... and he is 17 smile.gif
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There is no way Messi was 18+ when he joined Barca, he was barely 17. I think he was anyways. unsure.gif
redbabies
Work permit is very difficult to get in England.

If you are non-EU player than you need to have some international app. for you country, or should have played for any EU club etc...

BTW, I dont think that it depends too much if you're 17 or 18 to get work permit

P.S. After all, dont worry coz he can come in Milan in January, since in Italy he wont need it, or he can get it easier (I dont really know, but I just know that is not a problem)
kurtsimonw
If it's even harder to get in England, that's superb news. We'd surely have better chance than Chelsea. smile.gif
aLbErTo
messi was in youth academy for like 5 years, so it's different type of contract, he became a star after that...and he probably didn't have professional contract yet
Fillipo Simone
Great news!! The work promit thing is only a plus for us... biggrin.gif
Zed.D
Why are we after R10, wanting to pay +70 million euro for him? we could get Pato and turn him into something even better than R10, but for only 20 million max. the boy has great potential. I just hope he doesn't choose Chelsea cause England's not the right country for Brazilians.
sansiro1708
omg! if we sign PATO!! rolleyes.gif
hes going to be our next "kaka"
if we get him ...ill bet anything that real madrid is going to offer like 70M for him lol
beleive me hes even prepared to be a in the strating line up just like that. king.gif
dst
Everyone's saying he's good... I don't know... if he's half as good as people say I would welcome him with open arms but we do need another experienced forward too.

So, I guess he'd be the costly signing and the other guy could be Gudjohnsen (Porty's choice) or Cruz, that type...

It sounds good... but I guess taxes in Italy are not helping us in this case either... rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
Portman
Pato is not a Kaka'. He's not a ofensive-midfielder but a second-striker.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 26 2007, 02:56 PM)
Pato is not a Kaka'. He's not a ofensive-midfielder but a second-striker.
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I think they mean in terms of value.
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 11:58 PM)
I think they mean in terms of value.
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Don't you get it? It's even on the official site: THIS IS NOT THE PRICE IS RIGHT SHOW!! biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 09:17 PM)
It sounds good... but I guess taxes in Italy are not helping us in this case either...  rolleyes.gif  biggrin.gif
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Ahhhhh,...taxes, taxes,...it seems like Italy has reinvented the taxes just a month ago! I mean, the taxes were there even before football was...

So suddenly everything stops cause of the Italian taxes...yupp... ph34r.gif
jbryant1
It seems like right now we've sold a couple players and loaned out a couple more. We have the Scheva proceeds from last season. We can afford this player. We should get him while he's 17 because by 19 he'll be on the Madrid or Barcelona band wagon.

Right now there aren't many options involved with talented experienced players.

We might as well go for the youth card. You watch we said this about Tevez, Gago, and Higuain and they all went to other big clubs.
Rossoneri7
If Leonardo recommends this kid to Galliani .. Make no mistake, he will sign for Milan.

Problem is, Chelsea aren't waiting for a work permit .. Chelsea can do an 'Alex' .. Supply one of it's feeder clubs the cash to buy him (e.g. Moscow).

In that case, they have an advantage, if the issue is about first team football.
sansiro1708
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 26 2007, 04:56 PM)
Pato is not a Kaka'. He's not a ofensive-midfielder but a second-striker.
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i no that ...im just saying that he would become our next AWSOME young revelation LIKE KAKA
and he would work out as a in-box striker if we wanted to ...he has played many times in both positions SS and in-box....
jbryant1
QUOTE (sansiro1708 @ Jun 26 2007, 05:56 PM)
i no that ...im just saying that he would become our next AWSOME young revelation LIKE KAKA
and he would work out as a in-box striker if we wanted to ...he has played many times in both positions SS and in-box....
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We definitely could use youth in an over 30 environment. He will mentor with these guys. Pato is a guaranteed superstar in the future.
Rossoneri7
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Reports in the Brazilian media suggest that AC Milan will swoop for Porto Alegre teenage sensation Pato Alexandre if they fail in their bid to prise Sameul Eto’o away from Barcelona.



“Those aren’t just rumours, Milan are formally interested in my player,” said his agent Gilmat Veloz, who recently went on record as stating that Chelsea are already working hard to close a deal for the Brazil U-20 star.

Despite only being 17, Pato has seen his international profile make a dramatic rise of late due to being linked with big money moves to European heavyweights the likes of Chelsea or Inter. 

The latter are even rumoured to have offered 5 of his relatives a job in Italy in a bid to secure the prodigious talents of the player nicknamed ‘the new Kaka’.

Milan would be able to serve up a tantalising deal sweetener of their own, in that Pato could look forward to teaming up with his boyhood idol: the real Kaka!


Goal.com
Rossoneri7
If Leonardo is impressed, I think he will sign for Milan .. If not this summer, then definitely in the winter market ...

I have only seen clips of his best tricks .. But I don't know how good he really is in a full match ..
Portman
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Reports in the Brazilian media suggest that AC Milan will swoop for Porto Alegre teenage sensation Pato Alexandre if they fail in their bid to prise Sameul Eto’o away from Barcelona.


Non sense. I mean, it's a world-class foward or a world-class young (non-proven in Europe) bud? rolleyes.gif

But again... HE'S NOT THE NEW KAKA'. Different positions. It's like saying Kaka' is the new Van Basten. rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
I agree, it isn't one or the other .. It is both. They don't have to come at the same time, but Pato has a long way to go to match at least 50% of Eto'o or R10's experience ..

That said, I wouldn;t mind Pato, but I want another 'proven' striker too, the latter is a must
LaPalma
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 02:52 PM)
Non sense. I mean, it's a world-class foward or a world-class young (non-proven in Europe) bud?  rolleyes.gif

But again... HE'S NOT THE NEW KAKA'. Different positions. It's like saying Kaka' is the new Van Basten.  rolleyes.gif
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There will never be a new Kaká ever, as there will never be a new Maradonna, Péle, Cruijff, Beckenbauer or whatever. Kaká is Kaká, basta.
Wouldn't mind giving Pato a chance though. If his transfer isn't as high as Andersons of course.
But 5 jobs doesn't seem to be to expensive...
redbabies
Lets sign him and loan out for a season.

But lets sign Eto'o too


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Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 27 2007, 03:06 PM)
There will never be a new Kaká ever, as there will never be a new Maradonna, Péle, Cruijff, Beckenbauer or whatever. Kaká is Kaká, basta.
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Ooo, but there never will be a Maro Borriello as well..
sansiro1708
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 09:52 AM)
Non sense. I mean, it's a world-class foward or a world-class young (non-proven in Europe) bud?  rolleyes.gif

But again... HE'S NOT THE NEW KAKA'. Different positions. It's like saying Kaka' is the new Van Basten.  rolleyes.gif
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HES GOING TO BE THE NEXT KAKA because kaka was a good player in sao paolo but just a few ppl beleived that he would become this good.the papers are just trying to say that he is going to be like the next best young relevation from brazil...kaka king.gif --- every body knows kaka is in a diff level from idk: robinho for example........its just a way to say that hes going to be the next big thing cool.gif
m1ke
I haven't seen enough of Pato to want him over someone like Eto'o, but I've only heard good things.

If we end up signing him, I don't think I would be disappointed. If Oli ends up back in Spain, that will leave us with three strikers over 30, and Pato - a good mix if you ask me.

It's a shame Chelsea are interested - they'll no doubt bump up the price to more than he's worth.
LaPalma
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 26 2007, 10:33 PM)
Ahhhhh,...taxes, taxes,...it seems like Italy has reinvented the taxes just a month ago! I mean, the taxes were there even before football was...

So suddenly everything stops cause of the Italian taxes...yupp... ph34r.gif
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Not Italy reinvented the taxes...that was Galliani wink.gif

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Ooo, but there never will be a Maro Borriello as well..

To good for football tongue.gif
whoarethepatriots
QUOTE (m1ke @ Jun 27 2007, 03:58 PM)
I haven't seen enough of Pato to want him over someone like Eto'o, but I've only heard good things.

If we end up signing him, I don't think I would be disappointed. If Oli ends up back in Spain, that will leave us with three strikers over 30, and Pato - a good mix if you ask me.

It's a shame Chelsea are interested - they'll no doubt bump up the price to more than he's worth.
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Gila is under 30, he is 25 now or almost
Portman
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...67-4274,00.html

OK, brazillian source, usually reliable... says Pato is going to Chelsea in January.
His agent is quoted saying the deal is almost done.

So... another missed target.
Rossoneri7
Guess Leonardo didn't like what he saw tongue.gif tongue.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 28 2007, 12:59 AM)
Guess Leonardo didn't like what he saw tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Yeah... there's always better things in Brazil:

Tennie
(This is why I'm surprised you all aren't clamoring for Deco to be signed. His wife is pretty!)
Portman
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 28 2007, 01:21 AM)
(This is why I'm surprised you all aren't clamoring for Deco to be signed. His wife is pretty!)
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I don't think she's pretty. She's hot. Way... way different. wink.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:10 AM)
Yeah... there's always better things in Brazil:


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freak.gif cheerful.gif cheerful.gif
sansiro1708
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 07:52 PM)
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...67-4274,00.html

OK, brazillian source, usually reliable... says Pato is going to Chelsea in January.
His agent is quoted saying the deal is almost done.

So... another missed target.
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ahh man sad.gif i hope thats fake
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 12:28 AM)
I don't think she's pretty. She's hot. Way... way different.  wink.gif
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I don't like her at all. unsure.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 12:52 AM)
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/...67-4274,00.html

OK, brazillian source, usually reliable... says Pato is going to Chelsea in January.
His agent is quoted saying the deal is almost done.

So... another missed target.
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I dont see him even survive in the Premiership,...hope that news are wrong,...

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 28 2007, 10:21 AM)
I don't like her at all.  unsure.gif
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What about her:
dst
ohmy.gif

Who's her Fillipo? Adriana?
Portman
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2007, 01:26 PM)
I dont see him even survive in the Premiership,...hope that news are wrong,...
What about her:

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Ana Beatriz Barros is not bad. But you can find better. wink.gif
dst
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:54 PM)
Ana Beatriz Barros is not bad. But you can find better.  wink.gif
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Oh, really!? rolleyes.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 28 2007, 01:36 PM)
ohmy.gif

Who's her Fillipo? Adriana?
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As Porty said, Ana Beatriz,...
Well, sure there are some better out there, but,... cool.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 28 2007, 02:20 PM)
Oh, really!?  rolleyes.gif
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Instead of saying that you should post a fvckin' greek model. biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 02:46 PM)
Instead of saying that you should post a fvckin' greek model.  biggrin.gif
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And what about your portugesean beautys?

Here you have a croatian example (the well known Nina Morić):



graduated.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2007, 02:55 PM)
And what about your portugesean beautys?




We've no Ninas... but still nice. wink.gif
han2503
DAMN!!!

I've been only checking news lately cause I've got lots to do and don't have time to post but we should really try to pin this thread so I can find it easily biggrin.gif wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2007, 12:26 PM)
I dont see him even survive in the Premiership,...hope that news are wrong,...
What about her:

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Yep, I like that one, thank you. biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 PM)


We've no Ninas... but still nice. wink.gif
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Thats... very nice...)
dst
@Porty...

Well, the Greek models are too hot for this thread so let's begin with something more... "formal"! cool.gif

Meet Elena, a member of the Hellenic Parliament biggrin.gif :

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