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redbabies
A close associate of Kaka has once again linked the player with Real Madrid. Pictures of the Brazilian happily being photographed celebrating Madrid's title have only heightened speculation

Ramon Calderon had hinted yesterday that Kaka would have to force his exit from Milan, leaving the Rossoneri with no choice but to negotiate with Real Madrid.

A couple of events of the past 24 hours hint towards just that happening.

The first of them comes in the form of comment from a close associate of the player, Diogo Kotscho.

"I do not rule out the possibility that Kaka can go to Real Madrid, and I don't rule out the possibility of that happening this season either," he told AS.

"He would be happy both in Madrid and Milan."

The player himself has done precious little to quell rumours, posing with a copy of the very same newspaper (see image), which, on it's cover, celebrates Real Madrid's title triumph.

It is no secret that Franco Baldini and Pedja Mijatovic have been speaking with his agent, and Milan themselves are aware of the situation.

Kaka does not want to explicitly force Milan to sell given his good relations with the Rossoneri, but the message seems to be clear!


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See his FAKE photo!
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arivanjj
kaka is really not helping the situation sleep.gif
redbabies
He's trying to say "I wanna leave" but dont wanna be so direct and makes this king of gestures.

I would find it very difficult to see him leave. Sheva's departure was difficult eventhough he was 30, and now KAKA is 25 and that would be extremly painfull.
Jack Sparrow
Look....I know some of his pals are there in Madrid, but I see no reason for the bloke to pull this kind of sh!t. He could just have said, I congratulate Madrid...blah...blah!

Now it's a case of 'the proverbial picture speaking a thousand words'.

Conspiracy Theory: Calderon is using the media machine to create total indecision and conflict in the Milan camp and force a sale.

If he has to go, let it be next season puhleeze. Now is too soon, too unexpected. Not enough time to line up replacements.
javierk128
i just don´t know what to think huh.gif mellow.gif
misha
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 20 2007, 03:36 PM)
kaka is really not helping the situation sleep.gif
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Yeah. Kaka knows what this kinda stuff mean. Now all the rumors will start all over again.

60mil + Gago + Ramos would be a good deal biggrin.gif
Rossoneri7
People r taking things out of context ... So what ?! He always wanted Real to win the title this season, he said it THREE times.

He is a Milan player and will stay that way, at least for the next 2 years .. He won't leave Milan, even if he wanted Madrid to win. rolleyes.gif
dst
This is totally unacceptable and disrespectful!!! He cant' do that inside Milanello!!! F U Ricky, no matter your intentions about it!! realmad.gif

Now if this is what is seems to be, I want the board to clarify the situation and act immediately!

We can easily sell CL's top goal-scorer and first candidate for the Golden Ball for 70m plus Gago and then we can give 150m to Barcelona for R20! I would feel no remorse...


... just thank him for the 7th before he goes! wink.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 02:10 PM)
This is totally unacceptable and disrespectful!!! He cant' do that inside Milanello!!! F U Ricky, no matter your intentions about it!! realmad.gif

Now if this is what is seems to be, I want the board to clarify the situation and act immediately!

We can easily sell CL's top goal-scorer and first candidate for the Golden Ball for 70m plus Gago and then we can give 150m to Barcelona for R20! I would feel no remorse...
... just thank him for the 7th before he goes! wink.gif
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Huh? unsure.gif

Guys, forget about that...Kaka won`t leave, and the whole story is probably put out of the context once again... rolleyes.gif
Tennie
I'm with dst on this one. Having the picture taken was a dumb idea on Kaka's part and some sort of action needs to be taken.
dst
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 20 2007, 04:30 PM)
Guys, forget about that...Kaka won`t leave, and the whole story is probably put out of the context once again... rolleyes.gif
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What's take out of context is Ricky's supposed innocence, purity and faith! I don't care what he had that picture taken for because it is totally unacceptable!!

If he wants to leave then he has to talk to the board. If he doesn't want to leave then why the f@ck would he have a picture of him carrying an AS paper inside Milanello!??

In any case, this should not be tolerated... we are nobody's joke! Personally, I'm offended by that picture!
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 02:45 PM)
What's take out of context is Ricky's supposed innocence, purity and faith! I don't care what he had that picture taken for because it is totally unacceptable!!

If he wants to leave then he has to talk to the board. If he doesn't want to leave then why the f@ck would he have a picture of him carrying an AS paper inside Milanello!??

In any case, this should not be tolerated... we are nobody's joke! Personally, I'm offended by that picture!
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Fotomontage maybe? Is there a possibility for that?
dst
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 20 2007, 04:50 PM)
Fotomontage maybe? Is there a possibility for that?
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No, I don't think even Madrid would go to such extremes...
Warchant
wow....could you guys overact anymore?

*gasp* he took a picture of himself with a newspaper from what his favorite clubs that he has followed since he was a child...THE HORROR!

seriously guys, calm down...he's not going anywhere.

how quickly some of you forget this



this celebration tells me a lot more than someone holding a freakin newspaper

he's from south america...he speaks spanish...therefore he probably likes reading spanish papers...and last i checked he can bring whatever paper he wants wherever he wants it rolleyes.gif
Tennie
Quick clarification: Kaka is from Brazil, where they speak Portuguese. Not quite the same as Spanish, though a native speaker of one can generally understand the other.
dst
Come on Warchant... you have to be kidding me!! Kaka is not just a child anymore as some would like to believe and he's not stupid. When he took that picture he knew exactly what would come after it... all the rumors and reactions!

So, I find it hard to believe he "just had a picture taken because Real is his favorite team"... To me, it's a clear message... if it's not that, then it's total disrespect to Milan as a club and it's fans cause as I said he knew everything about the effect of this picture!

QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2007, 05:01 PM)
how quickly some of you forget this
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how quickly Kaka forgot this... rolleyes.gif
LaPalma
IMO this is just another manipulating attempt to land Kaká by that son of a b!tch Calderon! Ricky made very clear that he doesn't want to leave by saying "Please, leave me alone!" For me there's nothing more to say about this. And hell, just why some so called friends of him said he won't rule out the possibility that he might ever join Real we're all going nuts? No...I stay cool...for me the file Ricky and Real is closed for this summer.
Warchant
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 20 2007, 09:05 AM)
Quick clarification: Kaka is from Brazil, where they speak Portuguese. Not quite the same as Spanish, though a native speaker of one can generally understand the other.
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technically yes...but, like you said, generally, if you know one you know the other

it's like difference in english between the states and england
Warchant
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 09:10 AM)
Come on Warchant... you have to be kidding me!! Kaka is not just a child anymore as some would like to believe and he's not stupid. When he took that picture he knew exactly what would come after it... all the rumors and reactions!

So, I find it hard to believe he "just had a picture taken because Real is his favorite team"... To me, it's a clear message... if it's not that, then it's total disrespect to Milan as a club and it's fans cause as I said he knew everything about the effect of this picture!
how quickly Kaka forgot this...  rolleyes.gif
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exactly...he is not a boy, he is a grown man.

he is allowed to take whatever picture he wants to

was it the smartest move on his part? no...does it mean that he definitely wants to leave milan? no...does it give someone the right to say F U to our best player? definitely no!
dst
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2007, 05:30 PM)
was it the smartest move on his part? no...does it mean that he definitely wants to leave milan? no...does it give someone the right to say F U to our best player? definitely no!
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It doesn't mean anything to me if he's our best player or not... I feel he offended me and even though the way I reacted is not a proper one I will not retreat out of it!

Since he's a grown man, he should think better of what he does. Of course he's allowed to take whatever picture he feels like but this is disrespectful to the club and since he knew this he also has to accept the penalties it might bring by the club.
Tennie
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2007, 10:25 AM)
technically yes...but, like you said, generally, if you know one you know the other

it's like difference in english between the states and england
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It's a bigger difference than that. There's a cultural difference as well (remember how much Argies & Brazilians don't like each other).
Warchant
penalties from the club? wow...i doubt they will overact as much as everyone on this forum has.

it's not like he flew to madrid and made out with Calderon

goodness
han2503
Him holding that news paper for whatever reason in what probably is a candid moment doesn't mean anything to me.

And frankly I'm not worried about Kaka or what this supposed "friend" said to AS.

Yes the picture was not a brilliant move on his part but it really doesn't bother me all that much since I'm really not worried about him leaving anytime soon.
fresh_prince7
Well did not expect to see this article up in the news section. I don't know what to even say, if this is all true, it certainly suggests he's trying to esculate the situation and leave milan. Reading this certainly leaves the same butterflies as when the sheva situation was brought up. Only he can come out and clarify where he wants to be and what his plans are in the future. I don't want the same old vague statement I am contracted to milan and will respect my contract. I'm sure we all want to hear him say that he wants to be here and continue to succeed or something along those lines. Saying he'll respect the contract doesn't mean he wants to be here. He blossomed into the player he is with milan, it would be devastating for this to unfold as it could, just like a certain other scenario did.

So he supported real as a child? Knew he wasn't perfect, so he's not intelligent. tongue.gif

What friends would he have over there compared to here that would make that sort of difference?

Why would he want to leave? money?
dst
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2007, 05:47 PM)
penalties from the club? wow...i doubt they will overact as much as everyone on this forum has.
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I can't believe how some of you are not affected by this... the other day we were talking of how much he does to silence the rumors and now this... he is the one that helps the rumors resurface! This is an issue the concerns and affects the whole squad, he's not alone... thus I believe there will definitely be some action taken... but of course they won't make an official announcement about it!
dst
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Jun 20 2007, 05:53 PM)
Why would he want to leave? money?
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Ambition maybe... it's supposed to be his childhood dream after all! But that does not concern me... if he ever decides to leave I will respect his decision. I will never respect this though!
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 03:42 PM)
It doesn't mean anything to me if he's our best player or not... I feel he offended me and even though the way I reacted is not a proper one I will not retreat out of it!

Since he's a grown man, he should think better of what he does. Of course he's allowed to take whatever picture he feels like but this is disrespectful to the club and since he knew this he also has to accept the penalties it might bring by the club.
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Penalties? Well, slow down a bit...

We are all here true Milan fans, but I don`t feel offended. What did he do wrong? Just holding that newspaper...I don`t care. The only things I care are that he plays in the red and black shirt No. 22 and that he is one of our finest players. As long as he does his job properly on the field, he can do whatever he likes.

Really...why hate Sheva cause of that Chelsea transfer? I`m pretty sure most of you would also go after Romans bid. Same for Kaka - I think 90% of all top players would have allready joined Real Madrid. But Kaka did not. And he stated that he wont...so I belive him..

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technically yes...but, like you said, generally, if you know one you know the other

it's like difference in english between the states and england


No...I really don`t like this example you refer to. It`s the same example that I hear from my friends in London when I try to explain the differences of Croatian and Serbian.

Portugese and spanish are much more different then the UK and US accents. The linguistic specification tells that by itself - English is one language who has different accents; Spanish and Portugese are different languages..
Zed.D
WOW! I can't believe my eyes... isn't this Photoshop?...

I prefer to wait and see what he's gonna say regarding this picture and the club's probable statement.
Zed.D
Oh... by the way... FVCK CALDERON. I would kill him with my bare hands if I could get to him... believe me.
dst
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 20 2007, 06:05 PM)
What did he do wrong?
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He upset the team and allowed the rumors to resurface! This is a squad of 20+ players, he can't do what he feels like! I'm not talking about a death penalty... rolleyes.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 04:12 PM)
He upset the team and allowed the rumors to resurface! This is a squad of 20+ players, he can't do what he feels like! I'm not talking about a death penalty...  rolleyes.gif
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...hmh,...only a small doze of medieval torture perhaps? tongue.gif

But really, who did he upset? Has anyone stated till now that he is upset?
Warchant
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 10:12 AM)
He upset the team and allowed the rumors to resurface! This is a squad of 20+ players, he can't do what he feels like! I'm not talking about a death penalty...  rolleyes.gif
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where did he say he upset the team?
dst
Oh so we're really waiting for an official announcement here!??

"Milan want to illustrate the discomfort this event has caused to our board and family"

... rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
Oh come on 'dst', don't exaggerate. it's just a promotional photo for AS. who says this will upset Milan players?! I'm sure they don't give a damn about these things. his gesture will only give vain hope to Real Madrid so I like it!
dst
It's all over every football-related site... of course the future of one of our most important players concerns the whole squad. Do not forget, how upset Maldini was when Sheva left...
Zed.D
I think that big Milan logo behind Kaka is in San Siro, am I right?
Are you telling me that the AS journalist has entered San Siro and taken a photo from Kaka holding an edition of AS magazine with Real Madrid celebration on it? in SAN SIRO?!... it's fake.
misha
Of course he did a very stupid thing (you won't see R10 with Gazzetta after CL win smile.gif ) and now all the newspapers gonna have a field day, but from here to leaving Milan there is a long way. Just need to wait and see how Kaka explains this.

BTW Kaka and R10 situation is quite similar. Many Milan fans think R10 is gonna be a Milan player now or in the future, and the same is with Real fans regarding Kaka.
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 07:13 PM)
It's all over every football-related site... of course the future of one of our most important players concerns the whole squad. Do not forget, how upset Maldini was when Sheva left...
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You're saying "when Sheva left". Kaka is not gonna leave, at least this season it's 100% impossible, why don't you want to believe it? biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 20 2007, 06:46 PM)
I think that big Milan logo behind Kaka is in San Siro, am I right?
Are you telling me that the AS journalist has entered San Siro and taken a photo from Kaka holding an edition of AS magazine with Real Madrid celebration on it? in SAN SIRO?!... it's fake.
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Doesn't mean it was an AS journalist... plus, everyone's allowed entrance...

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 20 2007, 06:46 PM)
(you won't see R10 with Gazzetta after CL win smile.gif )
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that's what I was going to say! Some days after our CL triumph I remember reading R20's comments about it on the official site. Now he probably answered the question of a journalist but imagine him coming out with Gazzetta's '24 Maggio 2007' paper... what would your first thought be?
dst
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 20 2007, 06:52 PM)
You're saying "when Sheva left". Kaka is not gonna leave, at least this season it's 100% impossible, why don't you want to believe it?  biggrin.gif
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That's why it's upsetting... 'cause noone's sure whether he's going to stay or go... did you ever believe Sheva would go, especially after what he said about the way he wanted his career to end?

OK then... my opinion on this is clear enough...

Next thing you won't give a damn about is seeing Gila training in Milanello with a Giuve jersey on... after all, when it's a 'favorite team' issue, who give a rat's @ss about respect!? rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2007, 07:29 PM)
did you ever believe Sheva would go, especially after what he said about the way he wanted his career to end?

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I only started to believe when I read about Sheva asking for a transfer on Milan's website. since Kaka hasn't officially asked for a transfer, I won't believe any of these conspiracies!
Zed.D
this is a user's comment from goal.com:

Luke Fenech, Malta 6/20/2007 3:57 PM
Having gone to Milanello myself I can firmly confirm that the photo shown is a hoax as the part of Milanello in which that particular mosaic stands has no sofas near it....requiring any player to stand up and not sit down....reaching the top of the badge...not just the 1989 date on the badge. Kaka' rossonero a vita!!


WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 20 2007, 05:23 PM)
this is a user's comment from goal.com:

Luke Fenech, Malta  6/20/2007 3:57 PM
Having gone to Milanello myself I can firmly confirm that the photo shown is a hoax as the part of Milanello in which that particular mosaic stands has no sofas near it....requiring any player to stand up and not sit down....reaching the top of the badge...not just the 1989 date on the badge. Kaka' rossonero a vita!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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I would not be suprised at all if it turns out to be a fake-photo...
armiss
Official :


'AS': IL MILAN RISPONDE E PRECISA
6/20/2007
MILANO - Nel corso della giornata l'A.C. Milan ha valutato la strategia da adottare in risposta ad 'As' e alla foto pubblicata oggi dal sito as.com che ritrae Kakà con la copertina dello stesso giornale relativa alla vittoria del Real Madrid nella Liga. Il Milan ha inviato un fax ad 'As', dove l'immagine viene definita 'un evidente fotomontaggio'. Per sapere perchè e per leggere il contenuto della lettera clicca qui.


IL MILAN SCRIVE AD 'AS' E PRECISA
20/06/2007 18.09.00
Nel corso della giornata l'A.C. Milan ha valutato in ogni suo aspetto la strategia da adottare in risposta ad 'As' e alla foto pubblicata sul suo sito oggi, riportata qui sotto, che ritrae Kakà con la copertina dello stesso giornale relativa alla vittoria del Real Madrid nella Liga.



& this :


Il Milan ha deciso di inviare, in risposta, una lettera ad 'As'. Ne pubblichiamo una parte:

'Abbiamo rilevato sulla Vostra edizione odierna diffusa online la riproduzione di una fotografia che ritrae il nostro tesserato Kakà che mostra all'obiettivo il Vostro giornale, presumibilmente in un'edizione non anteriore al 18 giugno 2007.

L'immagine è tuttavia frutto di un evidente fotomontaggio, perchè quella fotografia fu scattata nel Centro Sportivo di Milanello a metà aprile 2007. Per conseguenza, Kakà non poteva esibire un giornale che sarebbe stato edito solo due mesi dopo.

Il fotomontaggio non è innocente: esso rientra infatti nel contesto maggiore delle ripetute molestie di cui il Real Madrid si rende da oltre un anno responsabile in danno dell'A.C. Milan quanto al calciatore Kakà.

L'alterazione di una fotografia di Kakà, altrimenti del tutto neutra, sembra rientrare in questa manouvre, diretta com'è a creare nei lettori l'erroneo convincimento che Kakà non aspetti altro che trasferirsi al Real Madrid. E questo non risponde a verità, come lo stesso calciatore, nonchè l'A.C. Milan, hanno ripetutamente e pUbblicamente dichiarato'.

A.C. Milan
Fillipo Simone
^^^please...could someone translate...
armiss
i am very angry about Other languages service in Official site , they dont translate many of the news , we must learn italian
dst
So even Real can go that low... puke.gif Disgusting!

@Fillipo Simone: It says the photo is fake.
Ry4n
sorry the translation was very bad Translation
Tennie
Short translation: AC Milan are saying it's a Photochop job, that the picture was taken at Milanello in April and then altered to include the copy of As.

Further, Milan concludes that it was done with malicious intent, in an effort to make it seem like Kaka wanted a transfer to Madrid, when nothing could be further than the truth.

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Gosh. Aren't we silly for getting all upset?
dst
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 20 2007, 07:46 PM)
Gosh. Aren't we silly for getting all upset?
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Silly of me, of course, but I could have never expected this... even from that sort of people... rolleyes.gif
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