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dimival
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Massimo Oddo is on the verge of joining Milan after they agreed to hand over Pasquale Foggia and £5.3m to Lazio for the full-back.

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They should announce the ransfer officially. I think today it will happen.
dst
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dimival
UFFICIALE: Oddo è del Milan
Finally, 30 year old player but he is better than 36 year old one.
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han2503
QUOTE (dimival @ Jan 23 2007, 10:15 AM)
UFFICIALE: Oddo è del Milan
Finally, 30 year old player but he is better than 36 year old one.
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Ths isn't on the official site yet. unsure.gif
acmilanfan
Indeed gazzetta reported that the deal was sone last night via the phone cool.gif 7,5 mil EUR + the rights over P.Foggia . I'd say Lazio've taken the max from it ...

This probably means that Simic will leave immidiately.
dimival
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I belive it is true. Milan site is a little bit slow in terms of announcements.
han2503
QUOTE (acmilanfan @ Jan 23 2007, 10:19 AM)
Indeed gazzetta reported that the deal was sone last night via the phone  cool.gif  7,5 mil EUR + the rights over P.Foggia . I'd say Lazio've taken the max from it ...

This probably means that Simic will leave immidiately.
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Simic is a central defender. And I can't see us letting him go because of all the injuries in defence.

Even though Bonera is really impressing at the moment king.gif

btw thanks dimival for the link.

The guys who take care of the official site must like to take a lot of lunch breaks rolleyes.gif
acmilanfan
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:23 PM)
Simic is a central defender. And I can't see us letting him go because of all the injuries in defence.

Even though Bonera is really impressing at the moment  king.gif

btw thanks dimival for the link.

The guys who take care of the official site must like to take a lot of lunch breaks  rolleyes.gif
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Simic has 5 % of the games with Milan as centreback and 95 % as fullback. He'll leave. He is on his way out since last January when we first tried to sign Oddo.

And Bonera was far from impressive against Lazio particulary when Rocchi tested him with his pace.


Perhapse the contract isn't signed yet that's why there is no official anouncement but Gazzetta isn't Sun or Mirror devil.gif
Portman
OFFICIAL: Oddo = 8M/euros + Foggia.

Welcome back to San Siro, Massimo!

dst
QUOTE (acmilanfan @ Jan 23 2007, 12:19 PM)
This probably means that Simic will leave immidiately.
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Simic is going nowhere!! Kaladze should go... in fact i wish we had given him to Lazio in order to keep Foggia's rights!
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 23 2007, 10:34 AM)
Simic is going nowhere!! Kaladze should go... in fact i wish we had given him to Lazio in order to keep Foggia's rights!
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Kaladze shouldn't even be in Milano by this time.

Simic >>>>>>>> Kaladze, anyday.

PS: dst, I thought you were a Kaladze defender... some months ago. Well, maybe I'm mistaken.
acmilanfan
Now we have 3 right backs - Oddo, Cafu, Simic + Bonera who is turned into centreback now but used to play in Parma as right defender.

Simic in unreliable as centreback so simply there's no place for him. Our true problems are the centrebacks. With Nesta out only choice is Bonera - Maldini. But Paolo should not play every game so.....Costacurta ?

Kaladze is better as centreback in fact. surely better than Simic. And could play on the left as well were we have only Jankulovski.

It's logical that Simic should go. Simply there will be no place for him in the squad except in case of emergency.
Portman
I'm the only one who thinks Cafu should go? rolleyes.gif
dimival
I think Simic, Cafu & Billy must go. They are old enough. Ilsinho is our man.
By the way they announced the transfer on Milan official site.
acmilanfan
I'm sure that now Oddo will be the first choice for right back with Cafu as backup.

So our somewhat best 4 at the back in theory should be Oddo-Bonera-Maldini-Jankulovski

What's going on with Nesta ? Any fresh news ?
Portman
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LAZIO-MILAN: C'E' L'ACCORDO PER ODDO
23/01/2007

Questa notte è stato raggiunto l'accordo, fra Adriano Galliani e Claudio Lotito, per il trasferimento di Massimo Oddo dalla Lazio al Milan sulla base dell'esborso da parte della società rossonera di 7.750 milioni di euro più la cessione dell'intero cartellino di Pasquale Foggia. La notizia del trasferimento potrà essere considerata ufficiale solo dopo le firme dei giocatori.


7,750M (almost 8M) + Foggia like I said above.
misha
It's about f@cking time smile.gif Welcome back home!!! king.gif


QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 23 2007, 12:46 PM)
I'm the only one who thinks Cafu should go?  rolleyes.gif
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He should have gone a year ago
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 23 2007, 12:42 PM)
PS: dst, I thought you were a Kaladze defender... some months ago. Well, maybe I'm mistaken.
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I only defended him when he scored that goal against the Merda... biggrin.gif

QUOTE (acmilanfan @ Jan 23 2007, 12:44 PM)
Now we have 3 right backs - Oddo, Cafu, Simic + Bonera who is turned into centreback now but used to play in Parma as right defender.
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He is a natural CB... at Parma he only played at RB when it was needed.

QUOTE (acmilanfan)
It's logical that Simic should go. Simply there will be no place for him in the squad except in case of emergency.
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Simic was never unreliable... I always thought his fault was that he couldn't "see" what's going to happen and his positioning. But whenever he played as a CB this season he was always great... If anyone is unreliable is Kaladze: He always does (at least) one BIG mistake!!

Billy and probably Paolo will retire this summer so we should wait and see if anyone else should go!

QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 23 2007, 12:46 PM)
I'm the only one who thinks Cafu should go?  rolleyes.gif
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He's already a part of our past...
acmilanfan
Simic was never unreliable ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Simic is ridiculous. a dew years back when we were the best team in the world he was our worst player. He was 2 levels under that team.

I'm not a suporter of Kaldze either. But Kaladze was awuful as leftback. He has bad positioning but it's ok as centreback.

And Bonera played also as centreback in Parma - true. But I think that was more after P. Cannavaro left. And Couto was first choice centeback for several years.

Have an opinion but don't argue just for the argument. I follow MILAN for many many years and know more about this team that many people arround...
LaPalma
devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif Finally...we have a RB again. Oddo is a great signing for me. A very strong player, in the defense and in the attack, he also has lots of experience to give. I can't wait to see him in Red&Black.
misha
QUOTE (acmilanfan @ Jan 23 2007, 01:27 PM)
Simic was never unreliable ?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Simic is ridiculous. a dew years back when we were the best team in the world he was our worst player. He was 2 levels under that team.

I'm not a suporter of Kaldze either. But Kaladze was awuful as leftback. He has bad positioning but it's ok as centreback.

And Bonera played also as centreback in Parma - true. But I think that was more after P. Cannavaro left. And Couto was first choice centeback for several years.
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Simic is not as bad as people make him. He said it himself that he feels better playing as a CB and when he got the chance to do so this season, he was o.k.

QUOTE (acmilanfan @ Jan 23 2007, 01:27 PM)
Have an opinion but don't argue just for the argument. I follow MILAN for many many years and know more about this team that many people arround...
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A bit arrogant
dst
QUOTE (acmilanfan @ Jan 23 2007, 01:27 PM)
Simic was never unreliable ?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Simic was never unreliable cause we never relied on him!!! He was always a mediocre defender but since you follow Milan that much you have probably watched him this season saving our @ss in several occasion!! On the other hand Kaladze is Silvio's little pet and he'd first choice if he was not injured... so he'd play but he's not one you can rely on when he's playing, Milan makes him look good as with many other players...

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Have an opinion but don't argue just for the argument. I follow MILAN for many many years and know more about this team that many people arround...
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Whatever...
LaPalma
QUOTE (mishale @ Jan 23 2007, 12:44 PM)
Simic is not as bad as people make him. He said it himself that he feels better playing as a CB and when he got the chance to do so this season, he was o.k.
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I agree. Simic is a good, maybe even reliable CB. But as dst said, he never got a chance in Milan, because of ugly Kaladze, who tends to screw things up just A LITTLE...

Oh and, he's a miserable RB tongue.gif
milanistar
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 23 2007, 10:46 AM)
I'm the only one who thinks Cafu should go?  rolleyes.gif
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You're not alone there wink.gif

Anyway, about Simic and Kala, I think both are good as a CB's cause it's their natural position, but when it comes to play in the flancs Kala is 10x better then Simic!

I think none of them is a true Milan quality but Kala is definitely more reliable then Simic, at least he's strong physically and when he plays along side with Nesta or Don Paolo he makes a good performances!

If we should get rid of one of them I'd go for Simic, cause we already have Bonera who plays at the same positions, who is better and younger!

By the end of the season we must just let go Cafu and take a young RB for the future.
fresh_prince7
So oddo is finally a milanista. Any idea what number he will be given..
milanistar
14 is available smile.gif
Costacurta
We desperately did need fresh blood here, though Oddo hardly ideal. Still, he's better than nothing I suppose.

Cafu's bodily has obviously physically given up on him. Dispatch with him. Simic, well, Carlo will never be confident playing him at CB. When push comes to shove, he prefers Costacurta, as he did for Barcelona v Milan last year. king.gif

Bonera does seem to really be getting into his stride now, and must be the 1st change CB for Nesta/Maldini. Otherwise, he might as well play RB. Think I prefer him to Oddo actually at RB. So RB, or CB if either Maldini or Nesta out for whatever reason.

I think, tbh, both him and Billy will now go this summer. Milan, though hardly on the crest of a wave, do not look as if next season we can do brilliantly.

I would play Kaladze at LB actually. His stint at CB, can only have helped him defensively. I think Jankulovski should be played more as a midfielder than LB. It's all very well having our wingbacks, but defensively they are part of the reason we are not so watertight at the back as previously.

I have yet to see anyhting of Grimio but I hope he's good.
fresh_prince7
I thought ronaldo might get #14 and oddo might get #24..
megaren
at last Oddo at milan.my prayers have been answered.the official site has reported that it has been offically concluded that an agreement has been made.Thank God!!!i just hope that nesta gets well as soon as possible and then we have oddo,nesta,maldini,janku....dunno how reliable paolo can be as he is injury prone but lets hope for the best as this defense line up seems pretty solid....dont u guys think?hope we get very good defenders like paolo,nesta,oddo and cafu in future..hope we do better from the next game on and win the champions league and the italian cup...hope gila is ok as the site says and that he can play as soon as possible...if our defense problems are over and our forwards start playing as well as they really are,we can end this season well...i pray that we do
milanistar
QUOTE (Costacurta @ Jan 23 2007, 01:20 PM)
We desperately did need fresh blood here, though Oddo hardly ideal. Still, he's better than nothing I suppose.

Cafu's bodily has obviously physically given up on him. Dispatch with him. Simic, well, Carlo will never be confident playing him at CB. When push comes to shove, he prefers Costacurta, as he did for Barcelona v Milan last year. king.gif

Bonera does seem to really be getting into his stride now, and must be the 1st change CB for Nesta/Maldini. Otherwise, he might as well play RB. Think I prefer him to Oddo actually at RB. So RB, or CB if either Maldini or Nesta out for whatever reason.

I think, tbh, both him and Billy will now go this summer. Milan, though hardly on the crest of a wave, do not look as if next season we can do brilliantly.

I would play Kaladze at LB actually. His stint at CB, can only have helped him defensively. I think Jankulovski should be played more as a midfielder than LB. It's all very well having our wingbacks, but defensively they are part of the reason we are not so watertight at the back as previously.

I have yet to see anyhting of Grimio but I hope he's good.
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Is this a joke?!! huh.gif
Have seen Bonera playing RB, he can't corss, can go up and has bad positioning!

Oddo is may be 30 yo but he stil has 3-4 years in him, plus he knows perfectly Seire A actually I think he's is the best offensive italian RB, if we manage to get someone younger in the summer that would be great, that way he could learn from Oddo and be his replacement, but we can't gamble in some 20's inexperienced players at the moment wink.gif
milanistar
QUOTE (megaren @ Jan 23 2007, 01:50 PM)
at last Oddo at milan.my prayers have been answered.the official site has reported that it has been offically concluded that an agreement has been made.Thank God!!!i just hope that nesta gets well as soon as possible and then we have oddo,nesta,maldini,janku....dunno how reliable paolo can be as he is injury prone but lets hope for the best as this defense line up seems pretty solid....dont u guys think?hope we get very good defenders like paolo,nesta,oddo and cafu in future..hope we do better from the next game on and win the champions league and the italian cup...hope gila is ok as the site says and that he can play as soon as possible...if our defense problems are over and our forwards start playing as well as they really are,we can end this season well...i pray that we do
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Warchant
FINALLY! devil.gif

Cafu is too great of a player to be released or traded...i believe he's given enough to milan that he should decide when he leaves.
milanista1899
Does anyone know if Oddo can play in the CL?
milanistar
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:16 PM)
Does anyone know if Oddo can play in the CL?
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Yes he can smile.gif
Diavolo
He can play CL for sure!
HasanHasanly
I would love to see him in Roma game. That would be grand ! biggrin.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 23 2007, 04:46 AM)
I'm the only one who thinks Cafu should go?  rolleyes.gif
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I think he should go too. And at the end of the season, Costacurta, Maldini, Serginho and Fiori should all retire.
milanistar
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jan 23 2007, 04:30 PM)
I think he should go too. And at the end of the season, Costacurta, Maldini, Serginho and Fiori should all retire.
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No, not Paolo mad.gif

We need to win some big trophy the year he retires cry.gif
Darunia
I think Grimi is #24, so maybe Oddo will be #14, dunno.
dst
it's a deal...

berenike_10
QUOTE (Darunia @ Jan 23 2007, 10:54 AM)
I think Grimi is #24, so maybe Oddo will be #14, dunno.
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Humm i would give Oddo #12, it's available , and that number could suit him perfectly. i hope he gets that one.
berenike_10
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jan 23 2007, 10:30 AM)
I think he should go too. And at the end of the season, Costacurta, Maldini, Serginho and Fiori should all retire.
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Are u kidding ?? maldini retire ? , not yet. the only way i think maldini will retire is lifting a piece of silverware, like the UCL , he still can play with a great level, he player really well against lazio, with all the other ones i agree, billy can be par of the techninical staff, or something like that. then cafu, fiori, sould retire, kaladze sould leave too, borrielo , and .. find a good way out to oliveria.. he has been a fiasco all season long to this term.
berenike_10
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 23 2007, 01:39 PM)
it's a deal...


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BTW, nice avatar picture, i really like the big lebowski too , exellent movie !!
dst
QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:42 PM)
BTW, nice avatar picture, i really like the big lebowski too , exellent movie !!
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thanks... yeah it's an awesome movie!! Your Orb avatar is beautiful too though I can't really say I enjoy their music... tongue.gif
berenike_10
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 23 2007, 07:41 PM)
thanks... yeah it's an awesome movie!! Your Orb avatar is beautiful too though I can't really say I enjoy their music...  tongue.gif
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biggrin.gif i dont like their music either , i just liked the colors and the form of the picture for the avatar, but thanks mate.
Costacurta
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 23 2007, 02:52 PM)
Is this a joke?!! huh.gif
Have seen Bonera playing RB, he can't corss, can go up and has bad positioning!

Oddo is may be 30 yo but he stil has 3-4 years in him, plus he knows perfectly Seire A actually I think he's is the best offensive italian RB, if we manage to get someone younger in the summer that would be great, that way he could learn from Oddo and be his replacement, but we can't gamble in some 20's inexperienced players at the moment wink.gif
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He might be a great offensive RB but this I think has been one of the policies that has not been successful and I would like to see changed - the wingbacks return to being full-backs. In my view, the defence is the area that needs to be reinforced drastically, so thats why I'd prefer to see him play RB for the defensive quality, essentially the same as playing Kaladze over Janku or Serginho at LB to maximise the defensive quality in those places.

As it is, with Nesta and Maldini's perpetual injuries, he [Bonera] will be required at CB most the time which is where he is better suited I agree.
han2503
QUOTE (Costacurta @ Jan 24 2007, 09:54 AM)
He might be a great offensive RB but this I think has been one of the policies that has not been successful and I would like to see changed - the wingbacks return to being full-backs. In my view, the defence is the area that needs to be reinforced drastically, so thats why I'd prefer to see him play RB for the defensive quality, essentially the same as playing Kaladze over Janku or Serginho at LB to maximise the defensive quality in those places.

As it is, with Nesta and Maldini's perpetual injuries, he [Bonera] will be required at CB most the time which is where he is better suited I agree.
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Oddo is a rock in defence, but can still provide a lot going up.

Natural CB in the fullback areas aren’t comfortable and you can see them make mistakes that a natural fullback wouldn’t do.

Oddo was the right decision both for quality and the fact that he will fit in immediately rather then waiting for a 20 year old foreigner to adjust
KillerMax
Our problem is clearly the offense. Not the defense. Especially now that we have Oddo. Next year there will be new signings. But when it comes to buying a forward, that's when it gets tricky...
dimival
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jan 24 2007, 04:19 PM)
Our problem is clearly the offense. Not the defense. Especially now that we have Oddo. Next year there will be new signings. But when it comes to buying a forward, that's when it gets tricky...
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I think you are right about the forwards. I think we need to keep Pippo and Gila, get rid of the rest and acquire new young talented strikers like Pato.
But the defence is too old. There is no other club with so many players over 35. All of them must retire or the club must sell them. Otherwise t will be difficult to chnage the generation in the team. Nesta, Oddo, Marek and Bonera must be supported by yung defenders who will experience playing with them. Why not Barzagli?
dst
QUOTE (dimival @ Jan 24 2007, 03:36 PM)
Nesta, Oddo, Marek and Bonera must be supported by yung defenders who will experience playing with them. Why not Barzagli?
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I agree but this quartette is amazing. Defenders' prime time is at the age 28 to 34!
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