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fresh_prince7
Very congested around that 4th place.

We should be able to take it with 17 games left.

Hopefully we'll be fired up for the roma game. Our only chance of obtaining silverware this season. rolleyes.gif

The two away goals ain't gonna help out cause though. rolleyes.gif
mishie
always comfortable to be honest seem to lose our shape after the substitution but parma never put our defense under pressure, in patches we kept the ball really well making parma chase shadows. looking forward to see ronaldo and gila working together, big ron once fit could be the key to our occasional lack of movement up front. he and kaka should already have a good understanding from the Brazilian national team so i will look forward to that biggrin.gif once oddo settles into the milan style of play rather than the lazio back to front long ball style he will be great! now for roma on wednesday
FORZA MILAN
milanistar
QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jan 28 2007, 04:05 PM)
@Porto

I watched the game from minute 76, so didnt see much of Oddo. His mistake was not serious but the pass was crappy

Was Zee playing in the first half?

I think with this kind of morale and playing we can finish 2nd biggrin.gif (just being optimistic) biggrin.gif
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Who the hell is Zee? huh.gif

I think Oddo was good, he did some bad passes but nothing serious at all!
Bonera was exellent along side with Don Paolo smile.gif

The worst was definitely Seedorf he was just crappy, the only thing Yoann came with is his physical presence and the fact that he didn't keep the ball all the time!

MOM Pippo for sure smile.gif
Portman
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 28 2007, 04:12 PM)
Who the hell is Zee? huh.gif

I think Oddo was good, he did some bad passes but nothing serious at all!
Bonera was exellent along side with Don Paolo smile.gif

The worst was definitely Seedorf he was just crappy, the only thing Yoann came with is his physical presence and the fact that he didn't keep the ball all the time!

MOM Pippo for sure smile.gif
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Zee = Zeedorf. rolleyes.gif
X-Offender
You guys are too harsh on this team. I read all of your comments during the match and I was simply disappointed. Cheer up, we're only 3 points away from the 4th place, we've obtained 13 points in the last 5 matches, we've had a very good January transfer window. I mean, what more do you expect? I admit we didn't play a good match today, but we still got the 3 points and that's the most important thing. The defense was rock solid, did Parma actually have any chance at all? Bonera + Paolo make an outstanding center back, and to think we can also still rely on Nesta and Kaladze in the upcoming months. I suggest we take this situation more lightly, we are all rossoneri after all. Cut it with the motivation crap and all, we have to support our team more than ever this season.

FORZA MILAN!
fresh_prince7
Luckily we extended his contract. rolleyes.gif

Anyone worried about the form of kaka'? I think he'll have a blinder against roma.
Portman


Someone asked for a more complete table.
milanistar
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 28 2007, 04:19 PM)
You guys are too harsh on this team. I read all of your comments during the match and I was simply disappointed. Cheer up, we're only 3 points away from the 4th place, we've obtained 13 points in the last 5 matches, we've had a very good January transfer window. I mean, what more do you expect? I admit we didn't play a good match today, but we still got the 3 points and that's the most important thing. The defense was rock solid, did Parma actually have any chance at all? Bonera + Paolo make an outstanding center back, and to think we can also still rely on Nesta and Kaladze in the upcoming months. I suggest we take this situation more lightly, we are all rossoneri after all. Cut it with the motivation crap and all, we have to support our team more than ever this season.

FORZA MILAN!
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We are harsh cause we want some beautiful football we're not la Juve we are MILAN!!!
HasanHasanly
Wow, i just noticed that if we take the 4th place that means we replace Lazio. I wouldnt want that to happen sad.gif
misha
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Massimo Oddo was given his Milan debut, but it was Pippo Inzaghi who secured a precious victory over Parma just as he begins to be pushed down the pecking order.

The Rossoneri's week has been dominated by the arrival of Massimo Oddo and Ronaldo, perhaps affecting their concentration in the 2-2 Coppa Italia semi-final against Roma midweek. Parma were also distracted as new President Tommaso Ghirardi took over to replenish the club coffers and sat in the stands, but enthusiasm was also boosted by the stunning debut of on-loan Manchester United youngster Giuseppe Rossi.

Parma hadn't earned a single point at San Siro since 2002 and last won in December 1996. Last season saw a spectacular 4-3 victory for the home side.

Luca Bucci stretched to block a Clarence Seedorf angled drive after four minutes, then Kaka combined passes brilliantly with Alberto Gilardino only for the Brazilian to fire over from close range.

Gilardino's penalty appeals for a handling offence were waved away and as the move continued he had a shot smothered at the near post.

Milan were a little toothless in attack, so when Cristian Brocchi came off injured, Pippo Inzaghi came on to shelve the Christmas Tree formation. Seedorf's cross was intercepted as Inzaghi was ready to tap in to an empty net by Perna's decisive clearance.

Parma also managed to threaten with Dida holding a deflected Igor Budan effort, but straight after the restart the visitors had strong penalty appeals. Ex-Gialloblu defender Daniele Bonera was on the ground when he charged down Budan's shot with his arm, but the referee considered it to be involuntary.

Inzaghi had a strike set up by Seedorf, then SuperPippo's assist just missed the unmarked Gilardino at the back post. The Rossoneri seemed to wake up with Bucci flying to pluck Seedorf's chipped cross off the head of Gilardino, although Oddo earned the applause of the San Siro with a wonderful tackle on Budan inside the area.

Parma held out, so Carlo Ancelotti threw on his final two substitutes, Yoann Gourcuff and Ricardo Oliveira. It paid off, as on 76 minutes Andrea Pirlo's mis-hit free kick was intercepted by Inzaghi, who swung it past the goalkeeper from six yards. Frozen out by Gilardino and Ronaldo, SuperPippo took the opportunity to make his mark by pointing to the back of his shirt towards the crowd.

Milan: Dida; Oddo, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Brocchi (Inzaghi 30); Seedorf (Gourcuff 72); Kakà, Gilardino (Oliveira 72)

Parma: Bucci; Perna, Couto, Paci; Ferronetti (Coly 66), Grella, Bolano (Dessena 75), Castellini; Morfeo, Rossi, Budan (Muslimovic 62)

Football Italia
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mishie
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 28 2007, 04:23 PM)
We are harsh cause we want some beautiful football we're not la Juve we are MILAN!!!
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i thought in patches we played some bella calcio!!
like i said we looked better before the introduction of pippo, until half-time anyway after that in the second half we looked better after carlo had gave full instructions.
we were never in danger and i can't remember dida having a save to make biggrin.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 28 2007, 05:23 PM)
We are harsh cause we want some beautiful football we're not la Juve we are MILAN!!!
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I see from your point of view the beauty of the game is more important than the 3 points, right? You could have said that 2-3 season ago, but in the moment we are in no position to demand for beautiful football. We must obtain the 3 points in every match, at all costs.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 28 2007, 07:19 PM)
You guys are too harsh on this team. I read all of your comments during the match and I was simply disappointed. Cheer up, we're only 3 points away from the 4th place, we've obtained 13 points in the last 5 matches, we've had a very good January transfer window. I mean, what more do you expect? I admit we didn't play a good match today, but we still got the 3 points and that's the most important thing. The defense was rock solid, did Parma actually have any chance at all? Bonera + Paolo make an outstanding center back, and to think we can also still rely on Nesta and Kaladze in the upcoming months. I suggest we take this situation more lightly, we are all rossoneri after all. Cut it with the motivation crap and all, we have to support our team more than ever this season.

FORZA MILAN!
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I was going through the thread trying to find out the score .. Ur post was the only one that was clear tongue.gif

Reading some ppl's thread, by their tone, I thought we lost biggrin.gif

In anycase; I'm glade we won this match .. It was a given that we were gonna win .. what was the score like BTW ?! And who played in front ? Did Kaka play ?!

Grande Milan !
milanistar
QUOTE (mishie @ Jan 28 2007, 04:30 PM)
i thought in patches we played some bella calcio!!
like i said we looked better before the introduction of pippo, until half-time anyway after that in the second half we looked better after carlo had gave full instructions.
we were never in danger and i can't remember dida having a save to make biggrin.gif
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Before Pippo came in we were playing with one stiker, we hadn't that much occasions we were holding their 5 midfielders but nothing more, and I believe that Brocchi injury was some kind of a sign!

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 28 2007, 04:32 PM)
I see from your point of view the beauty of the game is more important than the 3 points, right? You could have said that 2-3 season ago, but in the moment we are in no position to demand for beautiful football. We must obtain the 3 points in every match, at all costs.
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No, of course not, at the moment we need points more than enything else, but you just can't stop me from wanting the best for my team especially against a team like Parma who is in the bottom on the table, i'm a perfectionist and I want to see some confidence and beautiful football in the pitch, we have the squad for it so we have to do it, or maybe I'm the onlyone who's target is the 3rd place rolleyes.gif
weeeow
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 28 2007, 05:19 PM)
You guys are too harsh on this team. I read all of your comments during the match and I was simply disappointed. Cheer up, we're only 3 points away from the 4th place, we've obtained 13 points in the last 5 matches, we've had a very good January transfer window. I mean, what more do you expect? I admit we didn't play a good match today, but we still got the 3 points and that's the most important thing. The defense was rock solid, did Parma actually have any chance at all? Bonera + Paolo make an outstanding center back, and to think we can also still rely on Nesta and Kaladze in the upcoming months. I suggest we take this situation more lightly, we are all rossoneri after all. Cut it with the motivation crap and all, we have to support our team more than ever this season.

FORZA MILAN!
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I agree biggrin.gif
Unfortunately I didn't see the match but I read the result on football italia. The last sentence of the report was 'Frozen out by Gilardino and Ronaldo, SuperPippo took the opportunity to make his mark by pointing to the back of his shirt towards the crowd.'

3 pts in the bag!

Forza Milan! devilsmiley.gif king.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 28 2007, 05:46 PM)
No, of course not, at the moment we need points more than enything else, but you just can't stop me from wanting the best for my team especially against a team like Parma who is in the bottom on the table, i'm a perfectionist and I want to see some confidence and beautiful football in the pitch, we have the squad for it so we have to do it, or maybe I'm the onlyone who's target is the 3rd place rolleyes.gif
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I know, I was mad too at the team today for showing such a slow football, but still in the end I'm happy we won. I think the guys were a bit tired, especially Seedorf. I mean, we've been playing every 3 days now since the first against Arezzo.
milanistar
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 28 2007, 04:51 PM)
I know, I was mad too at the team today for showing such a slow football, but still in the end I'm happy we won. I think the guys were a bit tired, especially Seedorf. I mean, we've been playing every 3 days now since the first against Arezzo.
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Sure, I'm happy too we won wink.gif

About Seedorf he didn't seemed tired to me, I mean it wasn't physical tiredeness sometimes he was runnig like he had fire in his "big @ss"! He was keeping the ball a lot, slowing down the pace of the game and losing the ball, I think he was just our little usual turtle tongue.gif

But I noticed too that Yoann isn't ready to be a starter yet, even if I can't judge him on one game! When he came in he lost the ball all the time when trying to dribbling and made some fouls too, the good thing is that he was there for the defense and made a good physical impact!
Bluesummers
Basically this game happened like this for you guys that couldn't watch. We were attacking and having most of the possession with parma the occasional attack. It was like for every 5 chances parma had one but maldini and bonera controlled the defence quite well, with oddo being used as support. Oddo in my oppinion had a good game, there should be more from him. He is still getting used to the squad. Seedorf on the left and Brocchi on the right kept bringing crosses from the by line, but gilardino(having his chances), could not score. Kaka had an allright game, shows that his injury really caused him to be off form. After brocchi's injury about 30min, our attack died. It was sad; no passes could be made and seedorf performed horribly same with kaka and gilardino. Gilardino had 2 good chances in the game with pippo 3. the 70th minute when Gourcuff and Oliveira came on, we got complete control of the midfield. They got owned, gourcuff played quite well, and same with Oli. Oli was splitting the defence up for inzaghi. Lots of shirt pulling and fouls which shouldnt have happend caused pippo with half chances. How we scored was pirlo crossed inzaghi caught it controlled it in the box and shot it in. Absoloutly text book cross by pirlo, it was godlike truly godlike. After we scored parma tried their best to score again bringing on muslimovic and others. They had 2 chances but couldn't score. Dida had to save two shots which were right at him. Good performance and forza carletto for bringing the team around second half and not a bad formation, we just gotta get a striker who can head.
Rosso
Ladies and Gentleman I give you "Massimo Oddo".

We have a new right back! Someone we can certainly count on. A player who has offensive skills as well, Oddo played very good from the start. He appreciates that jersey. It's like he's been waiting for years. Well he has...that's a fact. He was said to be a Milan fan and I buy it. He played from the heart.

I strongly believe Oddo has what it takes to be a starter in every game. He is not just another right back that will occasionally play alongside our usual defenders. He has a lot to offer. Oddo can dribble, cross, has good control, good stamina and he is powerful. He is tall too which is always a plus. I wish we had him in the beginning of the season. Great transfer !

cheers,
K
han2503
Oddo king.gif king.gif What a start in the Milan shirt.

Our best player on the pitch and that tackle he made was just pure class. The only mistake he made was in the last minute and it didn't do any harm.

For everyone bashing Seedorf, it should expected noadays no matter ho he plays rolleyes.gif but he shouldn't be blamed for everything, Pirlo was awful and was also slowing up the game at times, same for Kaka who wasn't showing anything but the occasional glimpse.

Pippo was definately not MOM. Yes he scored us the winning goal but all he did was miss chances and get caught offside.

Gila was looking really good, should have scored on a header but had a really good shot saved. But his holding up the ball for Kaka was great and he was also doing those little back flicks for Pippo. That was really good to see.
dst
QUOTE (Portugal @ Jan 28 2007, 05:30 PM)
San Siro booing Seedorf.
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It's harsh but I guess he deserved it! sleep.gif

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 28 2007, 05:51 PM)
Should have at least been 3-0 from the Kaka chance in the opening minutes and Gila's shot that was saved
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err... what?? LOL Come on now han, we should be thankful for this 0,5 - 0 win!

QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Jan 28 2007, 06:28 PM)
Wow, i just noticed that if we take the 4th place that means we replace Lazio. I wouldnt want that to happen sad.gif
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Yes it would really make me sad!! What are you talking about?? I respect Lazio a lot but there's no chance I would feel that way.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 28 2007, 06:51 PM)
I think the guys were a bit tired, especially Seedorf.
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LOOOOOOOLL!!!!!! laugh.gif
You should try stand-up comedy!! Seedorf's is tired of what?? Apart from doing Ronaldo's girlfriends that is! happy.gif
dst
Seedorf got his much-wanted number 10 and a big fat contract so he can should start getting used to the idea that he's going to be a sub as well! Now it's clear that all we lack is motivation not quality and Seedorf's (as well as Pirlo's, whatever that means...) is a key position. Meet Gourcuff...

We played a really bad first half, we were better in the second one but this season we can't ask for more than all 3 points in a game so...

1-0 was enough!! smile.gif

Let's go!
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 08:18 PM)
err... what?? LOL Come on now han, we should be thankful for this 0,5 - 0 win!
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Come on now, what chances did Parma actually create other then a few shots from outside the area?

The first half was pretty bad but just on the second half performance we should have gotten at least another goal for the missed chances we had and the way we totally controlled the game from start to finish.

At least a 2-0 scoreline would have been more realistic to how the game went. I would have bet my house on Kaka scoring the chance he had in the opening minutes. Not to mention that great save made on Gila'[s shot that was looking goal bound from the moment it left his foot
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 08:23 PM)
Seedorf got his much-wanted number 10 and a big fat contract so he can should start getting used to the idea that he's going to be a sub as well! Now it's clear that all we lack is motivation not quality and Seedorf's (as well as Pirlo's, whatever that means...) is a key position. Meet Gourcuff...
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I really don';t know what the hell is wrong with Pirlo, we give him rest he still does nothing we put him in the middle of 2 defensive mids to free him up and still nothing. I think we should try Gourcuff out in that central area.

Seedorf didn't have as much a bad game as every one is making out to be, he was involved in most of the attacks. But his passing was horrible at times, I think he should be benched for at least 2 games and we put Janku in midfield where he is much more effective. The problem is who are we going to play at LB, I think when Kaladze is back we should try this formation out

Oddo--Bonera--Maldini--Kala
----Rino--Gourcuff--Janku----
dst
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 28 2007, 10:25 PM)
Not to mention that great save made on Gila's shot that was looking goal bound from the moment it left his foot
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Please... that went straight on the keeper... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 28 2007, 10:30 PM)
Oddo--Bonera--Maldini--Kala
----Rino--Gourcuff--Janku----
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It looks interesting but I don't think there's room for experimentations! Carlo would never try it, probably nobody else too.
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 08:54 PM)
Please... that went straight on the keeper...  rolleyes.gif
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The keeper saved that with his hands as he was diving.

QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 08:54 PM)
It looks interesting but I don't think there's room for experimentations! Carlo would never try it, probably nobody else too.
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We're still trying to find a way to make the xmas tree work again after all the tries but still nothing and we continue to play with it rolleyes.gif I think there is room to try that one out especially when Pirlo and seedorf think they are going down on the pitch to jog around a bit rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2007, 12:15 AM)
We're still trying to find a way to make the xmas tree work again after all the tries but still nothing and we continue to play with it  rolleyes.gif  I think there is room to try that one out especially when Pirlo and seedorf think they are going down on the pitch to jog around a bit  rolleyes.gif
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And here is the person who was all for the xmas formation all through-out the summer tongue.gif

The formation is good for Milan, but we r missing a couple of players that would make it work .. We need at least 2 wide attack minded players at all times to make this formation work .. Maybe when R10 comes devil.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 08:18 PM)
You should try stand-up comedy!! Seedorf's is tired of what?? Apart from doing Ronaldo's girlfriends that is! happy.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
dst
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 28 2007, 11:15 PM)
The keeper saved that with his hands as he was diving.
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I think he just leaned over a bit... that was not diving to me but whatever, we won!

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 29 2007, 12:49 AM)
And here is the person who was all for the xmas formation all through-out the summer tongue.gif
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We were together on this!! biggrin.gif

And I (we) still believe it's a great formation, it's just that it doesn't suit to this team. It just shows how f@cking great a player Rui Costa is, adapting to anything and exploiting it's full potential!! I hope Kaka gets to learn to be so pliant one day...
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 11:13 PM)
I think he just leaned over a bit... that was not diving to me but whatever, we won!
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And that's what counts in the end biggrin.gif

QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 11:13 PM)
We were together on this!!  biggrin.gif
And I (we) still believe it's a great formation, it's just that it doesn't suit to this team. It just shows how f@cking great a player Rui Costa is, adapting to anything and exploiting it's full potential!! I hope Kaka gets to learn to be so pliant one day...
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Rui Costa was a better playmaker then Kaka, and I think we need a forward rather then a pure finisher to make this formation work.
milanistar
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 28 2007, 07:21 PM)
Pippo was definately not MOM. Yes he scored us the winning goal but all he did was miss chances and get caught offside.

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Then who was the MOM, I think in games like that one the scorer is the obviously the MOM!
han2503
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 29 2007, 05:13 PM)
Then who was the MOM, I think in games like that one the scorer is the obviously the MOM!
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Bonera, Maldini, Oddo...

All had a spectacular match. And it shows how tight our defence was when all the chances Parma had (a miximum of 3) came from long range shots
milanistar
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 29 2007, 05:54 PM)
Bonera, Maldini, Oddo...

All had a spectacular match. And it shows how tight our defence was when all the chances Parma had (a miximum of 3) came from long range shots
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Yeah, but without Pippo we dont win wink.gif

For me Pippo is the MOM without a doubt cool.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 29 2007, 07:20 PM)
Yeah, but without Pippo we dont win wink.gif

For me Pippo is the MOM without a doubt cool.gif
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Without ANY doubt! (btw, was that sarcasm of yours? huh.gif )
Anyway, I hope Pippo will get back to his old self soon!
milanistar
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jan 29 2007, 07:53 PM)
Without ANY doubt! (btw, was that sarcasm of yours? huh.gif )
Anyway, I hope Pippo will get back to his old self soon!
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Noy at all, why? huh.gif
agenth
the thing with Ronaldo's gf and Seedorf is just gossip
I mean why would Ronaldo then come here? Really ridiculous.
X-Offender
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 28 2007, 09:18 PM)
LOOOOOOOLL!!!!!!  laugh.gif
You should try stand-up comedy!! Seedorf's is tired of what?? Apart from doing Ronaldo's girlfriends that is! happy.gif
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Err... of playing every 3 days? huh.gif rolleyes.gif
dst
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 30 2007, 06:18 PM)
Err... of playing every 3 days? huh.gif  rolleyes.gif
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He's on the field, it's not like he's trying or anything...
X-Offender
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 30 2007, 05:30 PM)
He's on the field, it's not like he's trying or anything...
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He's been one of our best players since the first match against Arezzo until the recent one against Parma. He was clearly beaten and needed some rest.
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