kurtsimonw
Mar 26 2008, 12:45 AM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 25 2008, 10:38 PM)
Ambro just have no control over his nerve in difficult situations
Ambro is clutch! I'll never forget the late goal against PSV. He even came up with a big winning goal late on last week!
Portman
Mar 26 2008, 12:56 AM

Why?
Well. More matches played. Italian. Charismatic player. Fight-spirit.
-Nesta and Oddo are laziali. Or at least wore their captain armband.
-Bonera is too young.
-Ambrosini is not always a first-team player. And I don't like him too.
-Pirlo - as much I like him - I don't think he has what it takes to be a leader.
-Kaka', Kaladze and Seedorf are not italian and I think our captain must always be from home.
whoarethepatriots
Mar 26 2008, 01:32 AM
They are all captain material (aside from Bonera and Kaka at the moment) but i think Ambrosini is a better captain than Gattuso.
Gattuso embodies the spirit of Milan, and i truely adore him, but his passion is also his downfall, i cant see him with a cool calm temperament like Ambro. Pirlo is also very cool tempered and by know has more influence than before
Ambrosini - Gattuso - Pirlo
That is the order i think it should be. Nesta is a hardcore laziale, i dont think it would be right for him to be no1 captain of Milan. He is nontheless excellent captain material
Jack Sparrow
Mar 26 2008, 04:45 AM
Well we know that in Milan, the captain of the team is the guy who leads the dressing room, and not the best player.
It's why as much as I love Andy P, and tolerate Kaka (

) they don't get my vote.
Seedorf would be captain in a heart beat if he weren't non-Italian.
I think Sandro has refused to be captain of the Milan team. It's the only explanation I can give. Perhaps out of respect for having worn the Lazio band?

Between Ambro and Rino then, and they've chosen Ambro ahead of Rino. I like both of them tbh so I don't really care. Besides Rino has already said, that he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Ambro. So that's fine then.
Bluesummers
Mar 26 2008, 05:56 AM
For now ambro gattuso but kaka should be given the chance next season.
misha
Mar 26 2008, 08:38 AM
If not Lazio and all, Nesta would have been a great captain.
Difficult choice (I love both of them) but I'd pick Ambro ahead of Rino.
Fillipo Simone
Mar 26 2008, 09:38 AM
QUOTE
-Kaka', Kaladze and Seedorf are not italian and I think our captain must always be from
By all means, it isn't exactly a "law". We could name a non-italian as team captain IMO. Occasionally we had Boban and Leonardo as capos. But I get your point..
I voted for Nesta, but I'm about 90% sure Rino will get it next season. Only problem is that this wouldn't be exactly a nice gesture to Ambro.
Btw. Costacurta and Albertini wore the armband, Tassotti and Baresi..did Ancelotti had the honour? And who was captain before Baresi and after Rocco, Trap, Cesare and Rivera?
arivanjj
Mar 26 2008, 10:43 AM
Nesta for me too... his superiority in leadership clearly stands out.
misha
Mar 26 2008, 10:59 AM
Silvio said in January after the Napoli match: "There's still time left to decide about that, but I think it's between Gattuso and Ambrosini. I think Gattuso will take the captain role next season because he deserved that and that will be a true honor for Milan and Gattuso too"
redbabies
Mar 26 2008, 07:20 PM
His name is
Alessandro Nesta!
Tennie
Mar 29 2008, 12:50 PM
Just saw this one. Much as I'd love to see Nesta as captain - and I think he's got the best personality/presence for it - it's my understanding that Milan usually works on the same seniority principle that the Azzurri do. If that's the case, it means that the armband will go to whoever's been around longest.
In that case, I think it would be - in order - Ambrosini - Gattuso - (sorry, dst) Kaladze - Pirlo - Nesta.
Fillipo Simone
Mar 29 2008, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 29 2008, 12:50 PM)
Just saw this one. Much as I'd love to see Nesta as captain - and I think he's got the best personality/presence for it - it's my understanding that Milan usually works on the same seniority principle that the Azzurri do. If that's the case, it means that the armband will go to whoever's been around longest.
In that case, I think it would be - in order - Ambrosini - Gattuso - (sorry, dst) Kaladze - Pirlo - Nesta.
Yep, I think you're right. But, I'd add a slight correction - Ambrosini - Gattuso -
Ba - Kaladze,..
How could I forget to include him into this selection,..
Ry4n
Mar 29 2008, 03:02 PM
i voted Kaka' but i think Nesta should get it now but Kaka' in the near future
redbabies
Mar 29 2008, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 29 2008, 02:34 PM)
Yep, I think you're right. But, I'd add a slight correction - Ambrosini - Gattuso -
Ba - Kaladze,..
How could I forget to include him into this selection,..


dont forget Fiori
He has been with us since '99
whoarethepatriots
Mar 31 2008, 05:29 PM
The only players to come out with any sort of credibility from the Atalanta match were Kalac and Ambrosini (perhaps Maldini too)
Long after everyone had given up, Ambrosini was there pushing the team on, giving his all when players like Pirlo and Gattuso could not be bothered
A captain should not need motivation to play well against Atalanta or any other team, he should play his heart of for his team always, even if his legs fail him.
I have already voted for Ambrosini, but you all should realise he is the best captain material, he is not our most gifted player technically or physically, but that is not the point
Lead by example is what he does, and will always do
Tennie
Mar 31 2008, 05:45 PM
I know a couple of people who are season ticket holders (lucky barstids). One of them has commented that yesterday, Ambrosini was the only real man out on the pitch for Milan.
Ambro's not my favourite player but my Milanese friend and whoarethepatriots have a good point.
redbabies
Mar 31 2008, 06:08 PM
^^^
well, the only reason why I doubt Ambro will be out captian, is that probably (I hope) he'll not be first-team regular next season.
If we sign 1 or 2 great midfielders Ambro will be the first to seat on the bench, then it comes Seedorf, then Gattuso...
jefri91
Mar 31 2008, 06:47 PM
Screw the rest, Pa7o for captain
Fillipo Simone
Mar 31 2008, 07:04 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 31 2008, 05:29 PM)
The only players to come out with any sort of credibility from the Atalanta match were Kalac and Ambrosini (perhaps Maldini too)
Long after everyone had given up, Ambrosini was there pushing the team on, giving his all when players like Pirlo and Gattuso could not be bothered
A captain should not need motivation to play well against Atalanta or any other team, he should play his heart of for his team always, even if his legs fail him.
I have already voted for Ambrosini, but you all should realise he is the best captain material, he is not our most gifted player technically or physically, but that is not the point
Lead by example is what he does, and will always do

That's what I've said earlier on. I agree 100%.
Remember

I'll never foget that one.
I voted for Nesta, but it's Ambrosini who should get the armband.
maldini03
Mar 31 2008, 09:33 PM
I think that the team should nomintate someone not that we have any say in thet lol
Habitant
Mar 31 2008, 11:20 PM
kaka is the present the future, and he has been with he squad for 5 years now. funny how no one mentions him. it would be a smart choice cuz it's not like ambro will be a guaranteed starter next season, not to mention 2 years down the road.
whoarethepatriots
Apr 1 2008, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (Habitant @ Mar 31 2008, 10:20 PM)
kaka is the present the future, and he has been with he squad for 5 years now. funny how no one mentions him. it would be a smart choice cuz it's not like ambro will be a guaranteed starter next season, not to mention 2 years down the road.
Being a captain is not about regularly starting, its about being inspirational to other, motivating them when things are down.
Its unbelieveable how many times Ambrosini has saved us on the bring of defeat; PSV in 2005, Sampdoria and Atalanta in 2007, Empoli a month ago etc
Bluesummers
Apr 1 2008, 01:47 AM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 31 2008, 05:10 PM)
Being a captain is not about regularly starting, its about being inspirational to other, motivating them when things are down.
Its unbelieveable how many times Ambrosini has saved us on the bring of defeat; PSV in 2005, Sampdoria and Atalanta in 2007, Empoli a month ago etc
its funny how kaka brought us the champions league and got us 4th?
Habitant
Apr 1 2008, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 31 2008, 11:10 PM)
Being a captain is not about regularly starting, its about being inspirational to other, motivating them when things are down.
Its unbelieveable how many times Ambrosini has saved us on the bring of defeat; PSV in 2005, Sampdoria and Atalanta in 2007, Empoli a month ago etc
well it's hard to motivate from the bench, i mean the most important motivation is done during the game on the pitch. i dont deny his leadership off the field but for all we know fiori is the most important leader... but ti would pretty pointless to make him captain considering how much he plays
i wouldnt say it's unbelievable how many times he's saved us cuz i can count the occasions off the top of my head. you can say the same about players too (including kaka) he dragged us to the final in athens last year.
kurtsimonw
Apr 1 2008, 02:02 AM
Yeah but the way thing are going, kaka' would only be a shot term solution. If we don't make big changes, next season will be his last in Milan, in my opinion.
Tennie
Apr 1 2008, 02:03 AM
It's still an academic discussion, guys.

Milan works on the seniority principle. Unless there are drastic changes, the armband will go to Ambro.
Habitant
Apr 1 2008, 04:30 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 1 2008, 01:03 AM)
It's still an academic discussion, guys.

Milan works on the seniority principle. Unless there are drastic changes, the armband will go to Ambro.
true but kaladze will never be considered for the captaincy. i would rather goofy as our captain, although the two share similarities
redbabies
Apr 1 2008, 10:36 AM
QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 1 2008, 04:30 AM)
true but kaladze will never be considered for the captaincy. i would rather goofy as our captain, although the two share similarities

If Kaladze becomes a captian...... may God help our ship!
Its a three-horse raice IMO: .
Ambro 30%, Gennaro 30%, Nesta 40% chance.
acid911
Apr 1 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 1 2008, 02:36 PM)
Ambro 30%, Gennaro 30%,
Nesta 40% chance.
I'm all for it. Nesta is the man. The remaining candidates are Amrbo, Gattuso, and Kaka in no particular order.
Jack Sparrow
Apr 1 2008, 11:53 AM
Nesta?? Uhm..realistically..it's been a two horse race for as far as I can remember.
Kaka is still seen as a bright young kid in the dressing room. He's not at the level Sheva was, when awarded the band. (I don't mean skillwise, I mean his place in the dressing room).
Besides I'm not too keen on the best player being the captain thing. Don't think it makes a difference.
But like 10ie said, it will be a seniority thing. Ambro, Rino and so on.
Ry4n
Aug 22 2008, 05:09 PM
For now i think Nesta keep the arm band in the defence
Zed.D
Aug 22 2008, 07:30 PM
Right now there is an obvious order: God, Ambro, Rino.
After them? not that he quite possesses all the factors a captain need to have, but I'd go with Pirlo ahead of Sandro. firstly because of the seniority thing, secondly because Nesta is a Lazio legend/former captain and it'd be for the good of both teams' fans and players if he stayed away from Milan's captain armband (just my opinion), thirdly because Pirlo is a few years younger and therefore he'll be with us longer (also Nesta's injury setbacks considered), fourthly! by the time God, Ambro and Rino leave Nesta will be too old to become the captain. maybe 35 or 36. fifthly (

) ... that's enough I think...
Though Pirlo is not quite a charismatic leader like Maldini, players respect him and he's qualified enough for this role. I can see him as the future captain already.
After Pirlo? too soon to tell, but Kaka getting it seems to be a certainty.
whoarethepatriots
Aug 22 2008, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 22 2008, 07:30 PM)

Right now there is an obvious order: God, Ambro, Rino.
After them? not that he quite possesses all the factors a captain need to have, but I'd go with Pirlo ahead of Sandro. firstly because of the seniority thing, secondly because Nesta is a Lazio legend/former captain and it'd be for the good of both teams' fans and players if he stayed away from Milan's captain armband (just my opinion), thirdly because Pirlo is a few years younger and therefore he'll be with us longer (also Nesta's injury setbacks considered), fourthly! by the time God, Ambro and Rino leave Nesta will be too old to become the captain. maybe 35 or 36. fifthly (

) ... that's enough I think...
Though Pirlo is not quite a charismatic leader like Maldini, players respect him and he's qualified enough for this role. I can see him as the future captain already.
After Pirlo? too soon to tell, but Kaka getting it seems to be a certainty.
+1
dst
Aug 22 2008, 08:00 PM
Seems about right to me.
Zed.D
Aug 22 2008, 08:09 PM
What is Sheva doing there, btw? I thought m1ke archived old threads...
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