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I think we're stuck at an impass.

Milan making CL was, it seems, unexpected at this point and judging from how our management and funding stands, it could turn out to be a fluke comeback.

The pattern we've seen will just continue. Contract negotiations will drag on (Romagnoli, Kessie, Theo, Kjaer). It seems that even a gun ho Franck Kessie who publicly expressed his love for Milan needs several weeks (months?) to sign an extension. Something makes Milan less attractive...

Then there is the stingy pattern with transfers. I read Juventus signed Kaio Jorge for peanuts. Great; seems it wasn't a media invention after all. But hey, we managed to save a few bucks! Now let's invest them in a plethora of transfer targets containing has-been's (Iličić) and players in their last year of contract. Let's be as cheap as possible, save yet more money and sign mediocre players to replace our starters.

Re: Maignan, that's just how I feel, can't say that it will turn out this way. But the Dida argument isn't standing. Dida was similar yes, but man o man did he have - Nesta, Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Stam, Ringo and Ambro to defend all the way. Milan 04 would have been great with Abbiati and Fiori as well between the posts. But this Milan would struggle. But anyway, this really isn't that important now, it'll be a discussion for next summer.

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but as long as we'll be owned by a management fund, this will remain our status quo.

And this goes back to bite Berlusconi once again, who sold such a historical club to a shady Chinese investor who, lo and behold, didn't have any money whatsoever to back up his plans. We ended up as collateral to Elliott and, well, this is the outcome.

Just to give you an idea: this financial year (closed on 30 June 2021), we'll go from a record 195 million loss to a 95 million loss. More than half.

Tu quote Calcio Finanza:

In a nutshell, the deficit generated by the management in recent years is back under control, also considering that the previous debt has been reduced considerably, with debt charges dropped sharply. All without being able to benefit from box office revenue, thanks to cost optimization that has been underway for months.

The main item of savings is dictated by salaries: the company managed to contain the gross expenses to 110 million euros, with the commitment to limit increases even in the event of qualification for the Champions League. This explains (also) the tug-of-war with Donnarumma and Calhanoglu, monitoring the situation of contracts expiring in 2022 (Kessi?, Romagnoli and Calabria).

In addition to savings, the positive economic situation is also dictated by the work on the commercial front, between the arrival of new sponsors and the policy of attracting young fans, with an ever-increasing commitment on the digital side and in non-European markets. And so comes the boom in the sale of shirts online (+200%), which will only increase in the event of qualification for the Champions League. Which would also bring substantial box office revenues, estimated at around 100 million euros.

Get it? We're reducing losses, containing costs, increasing revenues, all while maintaining a debt-free structure. Why? So they can sell to an appetible investor and make a profit. Until then, expect minimal spending.

[han2503]

Not sure how this feels, apparently Zlatan was hoping for a return to PSG but Leonardo closed the door on him and hence he signed an extension with Milan.

If anything, this goes to show time has changed and that Milan is no longer The Milan we grew up with. Cala and Donna leaving points to that, they want silverware and Milan does not seem to be ready for primetime anytime soon.

Regardless, Forza Milan.

Complete BS. Sports writers clearly have nothing to talk about

I think we're stuck at an impass.

Milan making CL was, it seems, unexpected at this point and judging from how our management and funding stands, it could turn out to be a fluke comeback.

The pattern we've seen will just continue. Contract negotiations will drag on (Romagnoli, Kessie, Theo, Kjaer). It seems that even a gun ho Franck Kessie who publicly expressed his love for Milan needs several weeks (months?) to sign an extension. Something makes Milan less attractive...

Then there is the stingy pattern with transfers. I read Juventus signed Kaio Jorge for peanuts. Great; seems it wasn't a media invention after all. But hey, we managed to save a few bucks! Now let's invest them in a plethora of transfer targets containing has-been's (Iličić) and players in their last year of contract. Let's be as cheap as possible, save yet more money and sign mediocre players to replace our starters.

Re: Maignan, that's just how I feel, can't say that it will turn out this way. But the Dida argument isn't standing. Dida was similar yes, but man o man did he have - Nesta, Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Stam, Ringo and Ambro to defend all the way. Milan 04 would have been great with Abbiati and Fiori as well between the posts. But this Milan would struggle. But anyway, this really isn't that important now, it'll be a discussion for next summer.

I really think that this is the most pessimistic view one could take of Milan atm

Since this new management came in we've made serious strides to get back to where we want to be. To expect to suddenly have cash to throw around the first season we get CL is just not realistic.

Look at the other clubs in the league and tell me they're in a better position. Look at Inter FFS. They basically bought a Scudetto with money they don't have and now are being forced to sell. Lukaku is most likely next out the door and a big chunk of the money they're going to get for him will have to go to paying Man U for the money they still owe them for him and for the bottom line since they can barley pay wages. Juve? They can't close for Locatelli and it seems like we were never really interested in the kid from Brazil no one knew about before last month. Never approached Santos, nothing. The player they really want, which is Locatelli is out of their reach atm. Lazio, Roma, Napoli. They've barely made a peep this window. All have the same squad.

I personally think Milan has the best outlook compared to all these clubs. Juve have had so many advantaged and even they are up to their eyeballs in financial trouble.

The only clubs who can spend are PSG and the English clubs. Simple as that. For all those who were against the SL. Get used to is, because this is how things will continue to be when there is such an imbalance in revenue or when a state own your club

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Look at Inter FFS. They basically bought a Scudetto with money they don't have and now are being forced to sell. Lukaku is most likely next out the door and a big chunk of the money they're going to get for him will have to go to paying Man U for the money they still owe them for him and for the bottom line since they can barley pay wages.

I think people misunderstand the Inter situation. Inter didn't spend money they didn't have. Firstly, no club has that amount of cash lying around waiting to be spent on players. Everything is borrowed from banks, except for when there's an influx of capital from your shareholders.

Secondly, Inter had a very solid business plan that went to shits because of external factors out of their control, mainly the Chinese limitations on foreign investments and Suning's (the holding company) financial problems.

This not only affects their revenue streams, but also created cashflow problems in the short team. Hence why they had problems paying wages, or why they had to cash-in immediately from the sale of Hakimi to pay their debts.

It's quite a complicated matter that can't be explained by simply saying that Inter were mismanaged.

[han2503]

I think people misunderstand the Inter situation. Inter didn't spend money they didn't have. Firstly, no club has that amount of cash lying around waiting to be spent on players. Everything is borrowed from banks, except for when there's an influx of capital from your shareholders.

Secondly, Inter had a very solid business plan that went to shits because of external factors out of their control, mainly the Chinese limitations on foreign investments and Suning's (the holding company) financial problems.

This not only affects their revenue streams, but also created cashflow problems in the short team. Hence why they had problems paying wages, or why they had to cash-in immediately from the sale of Hakimi to pay their debts.

It's quite a complicated matter that can't be explained by simply saying that Inter were mismanaged.

But they were mismanaged, do you think Suning didn't know they had financial issues prior to this year? Or that the Chinese government was going to make it difficult? We've been reading stuff like this about Chinese investment since Yong Hong bought us. These circumstances did not come out of the blue.

Inter simply spent money they could not back. Now they're in the situation they are in. Call it what you will but I still prefer our situation to theirs atm.

[han2503]

Lukaku to Chelsea almost done

If we can make the 3 signings we need we will be stronger than them for next season.

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But they were mismanaged, do you think Suning didn't know they had financial issues prior to this year? Or that the Chinese government was going to make it difficult? We've been reading stuff like this about Chinese investment since Yong Hong bought us. These circumstances did not come out of the blue.

Inter simply spent money they could not back. Now they're in the situation they are in. Call it what you will but I still prefer our situation to theirs atm.

No, some things cannot be anticipated. The imposition of new regulations can completely alter the financial outlook of a company, even bring them into liquidation.

I have no information about the likelihood of these new policies, say, two years ago, but I highly doubt it was a certain and predictable thing as you say.

Lukaku to Chelsea almost done

If we can make the 3 signings we need we will be stronger than them for next season.

It's far from being done, but it will probably happen. This will completely destroy Inter. Lukaku and Hakimi, arguably their two best players.

[Rossoneri7]

Lukaku to Chelsea almost done

If we can make the 3 signings we need we will be stronger than them for next season.

If inter get anywhere between Eur120M and 130M, they will most likely further reinforce their squad.

The depth is still intact, but Juve will be hungry and I trust Juve will be a force next season, especially with Allegri at the helm.

Milan will be okay, but will have to juggle priorities between Europe and domestic. A CL finish again would be optimal. (again managing expectations here)

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Also, Inter still have a debt of 55M payable to ManUtd for Lukaku, and they'll also have to pay an additional 5% of the future resale to ManUtd in case they sell him to an English side.

So, it's true they'd be making a huge gain if they sell him for 130M, but as far as real cash goes, Inter would be receiving a little more than half.

[William405]

If inter get anywhere between Eur120M and 130M, they will most likely further reinforce their squad.

The depth is still intact, but Juve will be hungry and I trust Juve will be a force next season, especially with Allegri at the helm.

Milan will be okay, but will have to juggle priorities between Europe and domestic. A CL finish again would be optimal. (again managing expectations here)

You cannot replace Lukaku... Big point

It's just funny for Hakan now..lol

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You cannot replace Lukaku... Big point

It's just funny for Hakan now..lol

Indeed.

[Fillipo Simone]

We'll see what happens. Kudos for Napoli selecting a born looser in Spalletti. And for Roma to pick the underdog master in Mourinho.

Somehow I don't think Juventus will be back, but we'll see.

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We'll see what happens. Kudos for Napoli selecting a born looser in Spalletti. And for Roma to pick the underdog master in Mourinho.

Somehow I don't think Juventus will be back, but we'll see.

Spalletti is an excellent coach for a club like Napoli. They don't aim to win anything, just make it to the top 4, and he's perfect for that.

Mourinho is huge for a dimension like Roma, it'll be very interesting.

This Serie A will definitely be the most exciting one yet, especially since Inter have weakened themselves, it sort of puts all clubs at the same level. But I think Juve will win it in the end.

[William405]

Spalletti is an excellent coach for a club like Napoli. They don't aim to win anything, just make it to the top 4, and he's perfect for that.

Mourinho is huge for a dimension like Roma, it'll be very interesting.

This Serie A will definitely be the most exciting one yet, especially since Inter have weakened themselves, it sort of puts all clubs at the same level. But I think Juve will win it in the end.

Let's wait till the end of the transfer window (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Honestly, I think we will sell Hauge and buy Illicic and call it a day..but I hope I'm not true..

[William405]

Messi not signing with Barca. Let's snatch him. 🤣

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Messi not signing with Barca. Let's snatch him. 🤣

Indeed. We should consider him. Yes, his salary would be insane, but consider all the revenues from merchandising and stuff.