[X-Offender]

Zlatan just had knee surgery today.

In these cases it takes at least 2 months to recover...

[Fillipo Simone]

This will end badly.

[han2503]

Define mid-level. Tomori, for instance, at 28M for me is a mid-level signing. So, I expect at least a couple of signings in attack at that range per player.

Because it's impossible in this day and age to find valuable players for 15-20M like it used to be in the past.

I personally don't think we'll get anyone else with that kind of price tag tbh

We're going to go after lower profiles with potential high return on value.

15-20M is our range atm. I personally don't think that's a travesty, it's just a matter of how well you use the money you have not on how big a given transfer fee is.

[han2503]

Zlatan just had knee surgery today.

In these cases it takes at least 2 months to recover...

We simply have to let go of this Giroud stuff and go after a younger profile

Belotti is there for the taking, just get him

[X-Offender]

I personally don't think we'll get anyone else with that kind of price tag tbh

We're going to go after lower profiles with potential high return on value.

15-20M is our range atm. I personally don't think that's a travesty, it's just a matter of how well you use the money you have not on how big a given transfer fee is.

Name me one valuable striker and one valuable right winger for 15-20M each. I'll wait.

We simply have to let go of this Giroud stuff and go after a younger profile

Belotti is there for the taking, just get him

I don't understand. You say we won't get anyone else for Tomori's price tag yet you say we should sign Belotti who has a market value of 35M.

[han2503]

Name me one valuable striker and one valuable right winger for 15-20M each. I'll wait.



I don't understand. You say we won't get anyone else for Tomori's price tag yet you say we should sign Belotti who has a market value of 35M.

Like I said, we'll have to be creative with what we have


No way Belotti goes for that much. Toro are not in the driver's seat anymore. He's on his last year and if they're pushed and Belotti wants to leave, they will have to accept lower than that

There are not teams outside of Serie A who will want him and there are no teams in Serie A who can brandish that kind of money. So that doesn't give them much room to demand anything. 20-25m would be more than enough for him

[X-Offender]

Like I said, we'll have to be creative with what we have


No way Belotti goes for that much. Toro are not in the driver's seat anymore. He's on his last year and if they're pushed and Belotti wants to leave, they will have to accept lower than that

There are not teams outside of Serie A who will want him and there are no teams in Serie A who can brandish that kind of money. So that doesn't give them much room to demand anything. 20-25m would be more than enough for him

Belotti is Cairo's most valuable player. You honestly think he'll let him go for peanuts? Just a quick search online and you'll see that he values him at 35M. Maybe he can go for 28-30, but not less.

[han2503]

Belotti is Cairo's most valuable player. You honestly think he'll let him go for peanuts? Just a quick search online and you'll see that he values him at 35M. Maybe he can go for 28-30, but not less.

The value of a players is dependent on how much other clubs want him

Milan can stick a 30m tag on Krunic, that does not mean that anyone will pay it


The facts are this.

There are no clubs outside of Italy who want Belotti. Only EPL teams and PSG are willing to pay big sums at this point in time. Not even Barca or Real or going to be going in heavy this summer

The club in Italy who do want him (probably only Roma and us could be interested, Inter, Juve and Lazio are set in that department) won't go anywhere near that price tag


So tell me how Toro are going to get that kind of money for him

25m is the max he'll go for and those extra 5 will be bonuses.

[han2503]

Belotti is Cairo's most valuable player. You honestly think he'll let him go for peanuts? Just a quick search online and you'll see that he values him at 35M. Maybe he can go for 28-30, but not less.

The value of a player is dependent on how much other clubs want him

Milan can stick a 30m tag on Krunic, that does not mean that anyone will pay it


The facts are this:

There are no clubs outside of Italy who want Belotti. Only EPL teams and PSG are willing to pay big sums at this point in time. Not even Barca or Real or going to be going in heavy this summer

The clubs in Italy who do want him (probably only Roma and us could be interested, Inter, Juve and Lazio are set in that department) won't go anywhere near that price tag


So tell me how Toro are going to get that kind of money for him

25m is the max he'll go for and those extra 5 will be bonuses. If we offer that kind of fee it would be done. My only worry is that we'll probably go in with an insulting offer which will put us behind Roma in the race simply for pissing off Cairo

[X-Offender]

Milan does not stick a 30M price tag on Krunic because the player is not worth that much and they know nobody will pay such an amount for him.

Torino do stick a 35M price tag on Belotti because the player is worth that much and they know many clubs are interested. Will they get that much in the end? Probably not, but something in the range of 25-30M as I said earlier, definitely.

His contract expires in 2022? Big deal, they'll just renew it. In fact, that's what Tuttosport reported some weeks ago. Cairo wants to extend his contract and sell him for 40-45M.

Unless of course Belotti doesn't want to renew, then I can see him going for 25M. But you said earlier that we'll never spend such amounts (28M for Tomori) this summer.

So, again, my question remains: how can we hope to sign Belotti? How can we hope to sign anybody? You say we have to be creative, but being creative only gets you the Saelemaekers' and Hauge's and Adli's of this world. And we can't go into the CL next season with such players.

[X-Offender]

Anyway, the most ridiculous rumour coming from Spain, and I can't believe news outlets are reporting it, but anyway:

Some Spanish outlet said that Sergio Ramos has talked to Maldini about joining Milan. His conditions: 20M to sign the contract and then 30M salary for two years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I don't believe the slightest in it, but if Ramos did indeed ask that money, he must be a complete and utter idiot.

[han2503]

Milan does not stick a 30M price tag on Krunic because the player is not worth that much and they know nobody will pay such an amount for him.

Torino do stick a 35M price tag on Belotti because the player is worth that much and they know many clubs are interested. Will they get that much in the end? Probably not, but something in the range of 25-30M as I said earlier, definitely.

His contract expires in 2022? Big deal, they'll just renew it. In fact, that's what Tuttosport reported some weeks ago. Cairo wants to extend his contract and sell him for 40-45M.

Unless of course Belotti doesn't want to renew, then I can see him going for 25M. But you said earlier that we'll never spend such amounts (28M for Tomori) this summer.

So, again, my question remains: how can we hope to sign Belotti? How can we hope to sign anybody? You say we have to be creative, but being creative only gets you the Saelemaekers' and Hauge's and Adli's of this world. And we can't go into the CL next season with such players.

But who are all these clubs interested in Belotti?

Only us and Roma have been linked to him and Roma are in a worse situation than us

Again, my point stands. A club can slap any price tag they want on a player, but if clubs don't deem him worth that much then nothing will happen with it. Just like nothing happened when Cairo was hoping to sell him for 100m (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) after his breakout season and Belotti signed that ridiculous contract, his agent should be shot btw, he wasted the best years of his career at Toro because of that contract. And for this reason, I don't think he will renew his contract. He know it's now or never for him. Berardi is in the same boat at Sassuolo imo.

And you just explained my point further re Krunic. A player is only worth what someone is willing to pay for him, and I don't see anyone coming in with the 35m you're quoting

[X-Offender]

But who are all these clubs interested in Belotti?

Only us and Roma have been linked to him and Roma are in a worse situation than us

Again, my point stands. A club can slap any price tag they want on a player, but if clubs don't deem him worth that much then nothing will happen with it. Just like nothing happened when Cairo was hoping to sell him for 100m (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) after his breakout season and Belotti signed that ridiculous contract, his agent should be shot btw, he wasted the best years of his career at Toro because of that contract. And for this reason, I don't think he will renew his contract. He know it's now or never for him. Berardi is in the same boat at Sassuolo imo.

And you just explained my point further re Krunic. A player is only worth what someone is willing to pay for him, and I don't see anyone coming in with the 35m you're quoting

As I said, he probably won't be sold for 35M. But I can totally see Mourinho spending 25M for him. Can we match that offer? Because earlier you said no. Unless of course you believe Cairo will sell him for 15-20M, which to me is unthinkable.

[Rossoneri7]

I'm rather impressed with Renato Sanches of Portugal. Not saying Milan should go out of the way to sign him, but if an opportunity arises (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

I'd dodge that bullet if I were Milan. His age is questionable (Taribo West anyone?), his manner and work ethic is rather sluggish. He's a great tournament sub, but for club football and a serious season with ambition I fear not.