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post Jul 12 2017, 12:40 AM
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But the point I was trying to make on Germany is that European titles are not exclusive to just most EPL teams and Barca/Madrid.

What do you mean by that?

Economically speaking, Germany is (and probably always will be) a powerhouse. This also relates to footballing things regarding financial policies and the way clubs are being run. But they also always lack that "something" else. In politics it's diplomacy and "takt". In football it's that feeling of tradition and identity. It may sound funny, insignificant and even stupid, but I think tradition is still a key ingredient in football.
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post Jul 12 2017, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Jul 11 2017, 02:20 PM) *
Wow. So cheap. I wish we had high jacked that somehow

Damn it! And it's an absolute steal for Bayern. I wonder who Real agreed to this while they want an arm and a leg for Morata...

Would have loved to have him, but Bayern can pay his astronomical wages, can give him CL football and he can work with Carlo again as well.

Oh well, I really hope we can make that one statement signing, that will not only announce that we're back but that can be a difference maker for us in the league

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 11 2017, 10:34 PM) *
You almost have your finger on it Han, your mixing capital/equity invested with cash; equity is what you put into a company and expect a return% while cash lent could be for free or charged a %. In equity if the Company makes losses, the losses are cut off the equity. In cash lent, a liability on the Company and could be recalled at any time (or an agreed time which causes cashflow problems), unlike the equity.

For Team B capital/equity is to be invested. Equity and not cash lent to the club. Cash lent is against FFP rules as that is a liability on the club and not equity. However, for equity to be invested the owner expects a return. Milan if you recall is not exactly a profit generating business.

Silvio sold the club as a means to exit for himself and a means for new equity to be reinvested. FFP rules allow new owners to present a X-years plan to increase the club's revenues so it can sustain itself (or the team to be built). This is the aim of the new management to establish new income streams from Asia. If they fail, we would be in breech of FFP unless the owner puts up more capital/equity. With the previous owner, he did all he could for 30 years. He could not carry forward. So why invest more in Milan? Just sell the club, our situation today.

Thanks for the explanation, hopefully our newly revised FFP agreement will be accepted in October, as the previous one we presented was rejected (apparently we quoted unrealistic revenues... Don't know if we should be worried about this or not)


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Germany is the only economy in Europe pulling together the European block. Economically. By practice I came to learn their work ethic and perfection in implementation and final product presentation is second to none.

- This is not football related, but it gives a hint as to how the internal workings of the German clubs work.

- But the point I was trying to make on Germany is that European titles are not exclusive to just most EPL teams and Barca/Madrid.

Well agreed about Germany, while Italy on the other hand are complete opposites. So there's definately a cultural aspect that must be worked around as well for us to be where we want to be as a business.

So far I like how Fassone has been making a lot of changes in terms of the organizational structure of the club and how he's seperating powers when in the past it was all under Galliani. I read that we also poached Monaco's sporting director (can't remember his name for the life of me) so it will interesting to see what role he'll be given. Add to that the change that has been made in the communications department we've already seen a remarkable upswing in this department just based on how the social media aspect is being handled. It's much more professional, modern and simply pleasing to the eye

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What do you mean by that?

Economically speaking, Germany is (and probably always will be) a powerhouse. This also relates to footballing things regarding financial policies and the way clubs are being run. But they also always lack that "something" else. In politics it's diplomacy and "takt". In football it's that feeling of tradition and identity. It may sound funny, insignificant and even stupid, but I think tradition is still a key ingredient in football.

There is definately much more romanticism in how Italian clubs are being run, but as great as that is, one can't help but acknowledge that it is part of the problem in the Italian system
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post Jul 12 2017, 12:42 PM
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Mediaset are running a breaking story that we have offered MDS, Romagnoli + money for Bonucci, and Juve have taken 72 hours to consider it. The player has already agreed a contract of 7M.

I call it huge BS. No way we should sell Romagonli. He's the future.
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post Jul 12 2017, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 12 2017, 12:42 PM) *
Mediaset are running a breaking story that we have offered MDS, Romagnoli + money for Bonucci, and Juve have taken 72 hours to consider it. The player has already agreed a contract of 7M.

I call it huge BS. No way we should sell Romagonli. He's the future.


tbh I did majorly wonder why Romagnoli wasn't involved yesterday. Only one who wasn't. And I'm in the total minority but this would be a good move for our defence. Like it or not, it has no leaders and I've been outspoken in being worried that we have no alpha there. This is not me saying Romagnoli is sh*t, I'm just saying I don't like the current setup in central defence. I'd rather it was Romag and Bonucci but why sign Musacchio.
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post Jul 12 2017, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 12 2017, 07:42 AM) *
Mediaset are running a breaking story that we have offered MDS, Romagnoli + money for Bonucci, and Juve have taken 72 hours to consider it. The player has already agreed a contract of 7M.

I call it huge BS. No way we should sell Romagonli. He's the future.



Agree. TMW has already done fact checking and has called BS on it. Now if we could get Bonucci without giving up Romagnoli....sure. But it's highly unlikely.

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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jul 12 2017, 02:28 PM) *
Agree. TMW has already done fact checking and has called BS on it. Now if we could get Bonucci without giving up Romagnoli....sure. But it's highly unlikely.

(Ciao everyone).



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post Jul 12 2017, 02:35 PM
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Today's press conference

The presentation of the fratelli Donnarumma today. Best moment of the whole thing at 12:08.

I like the press conferences and the new leadership's emphasis on transparency and on actively reaching out to fans.

The signings thus far have been solid though as so many of you have already covered, there are still some areas that need reinforcement (e.g. midfield and a CF).

As of 3pm Milan time, the meetings about Biglia are continuing, Milan has signed a rather promising 16 year old from Poland for the Primavera, and they're close to selling Paletta to Toro.
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post Jul 12 2017, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jul 12 2017, 02:28 PM) *
Agree. TMW has already done fact checking and has called BS on it. Now if we could get Bonucci without giving up Romagnoli....sure. But it's highly unlikely.


All three would be handy.

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Isn't that 'goodbye'?
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post Jul 12 2017, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 12 2017, 04:50 PM) *
Isn't that 'goodbye'?

Nope, it's also "hello". (FWIW, I believe it comes from the old Venetian dialect, and it means "your slave".)
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post Jul 12 2017, 06:59 PM
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BREAKING: Bertolacci will join Genoa on a dry loan with no option to buy, done deal [Sky]
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 12 2017, 06:59 PM) *
BREAKING: Bertolacci will join Genoa on a dry loan with no option to buy, done deal [Sky]


Meh, so he'll be back next season.
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I know that Bonucci rumor has been dismissed but I wouldn't mind dreaming of us getting Bonucci or Th.Silva and play:

Dollarumma
Musacchio - Bonucci/Silva - Romagnoli
Conti - Kessie - Bonaventura - Rodriguez
Calhanoglu
Auba - Silva
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 12 2017, 07:58 PM) *
I know that Bonucci rumor has been dismissed but I wouldn't mind dreaming of us getting Bonucci or Th.Silva and play:

Dollarumma
Musacchio - Bonucci/Silva - Romagnoli
Conti - Kessie - Bonaventura - Rodriguez
Calhanoglu
Auba - Silva


Not a fan of the 3-man defense. I think we should play 4-2-3-1 next season.
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 12 2017, 07:59 PM) *
BREAKING: Bertolacci will join Genoa on a dry loan with no option to buy, done deal [Sky]

This is not so bad. Genoa gets to pay the salary for the year, and (with some luck) he goes back to performing semi-decently, and his value goes up (so we get to sell him on more favorable terms next year).
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 12 2017, 06:59 PM) *
BREAKING: Bertolacci will join Genoa on a dry loan with no option to buy, done deal [Sky]


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