[Fillipo Simone]

For example?

[Fillipo Simone]

Anyway.


Gee, I wasn't aware I'd live to see the day someone will lift Sebo Rossi's record without conceding a goal in Serie A. Well, Buffon has only 3 minutes left and another Milan record goes down the drain.

[han2503]

For example?

There are many, I personally would have preferred to see us sign someone like Spalletti last summer when he was available and clearly willing.

He wouldn't be the innovative signing that we terribly need but he would have been a good stepping stone to finding that coach.

It's clear that we cannot sign a top coach, most likely not because of the wages but because we cannot promise him a top team, but in these situations you simply have to think outside the box. Miha certainly wasn't thinking outside the box, certainly neither was it with Pippo and Seedorf and with Cappello we'd be so far INSIDE the box we might as well just get buried in it.

I think first and foremost we need to look outside of the league for our next coach.

Then there are coaches like Van Gaal and Hiddink who could become available and I think could be willing to come on board. I still don't think they're what we need but they could make a turn around within the team because of their experience. I know you're going to say then why not Fabio? He's just as experienced if not more so.

You'd be right there but I think our past history with him is also an issue, not to mention that he's the type of coach that is fully set in his ways and imo hasn't really adapted all that much to the modern era of the game. Just my opinion

Anyway.


Gee, I wasn't aware I'd live to see the day someone will lift Sebo Rossi's record without conceding a goal in Serie A. Well, Buffon has only 3 minutes left and another Milan record goes down the drain.

Well, Juve are breaking all our records in a Serie A that's barely a fraction of what it used to be when we set those records. I think we can take a bit of comfort in the fact that when we set those records we were one of the best sides in Europe playing in the absolute best league in Europe

[Fillipo Simone]

Did Juve break any other Milan record recently? Anyway, agreed on that part Han, nicely put.

What I don't agree with you is your ageism thing and the answer you gave me.
Yes, Spalletti was a viable option. A loser coach who has nevertheless experience enough to master us through. Agreed. Yet the very fact that you came up with one name shows it all. Then you mention Hiddink and LvG out of no where, what gives you the idea they'd consider Milan or Italy? Hiddink came back to Chelsea because he could easily link up with the environment there he already knew. That's the same we tried with Capello. Now you say trying to bring don Fabio on board is a clueless/idealess try, but at the same time you propose another old coach who's never even coached in Italy?

I fail to see the logic in that, but I know, you're probably gonna say Hiddink is more vital the don Fabio and coached clubs more recently. Well, to me it's hardly enough.

The way I see this is that we have limited option:

A. We sign someone completely unknown who has links with Milan - we've done this twice and it didn't come out good.

B. We sign an more or less ambitious coach who'd consider Milan a next (good) step in his career (like Allegri)

C. We play the emotions card an sign someone respectable, like Rijkaard or Ancelotti (who went unavailable) just based on past ties.

I don't see much space for Hiddink's and van Gaal's landing at Milan in the future. What I would propose is we sign Lippi or Capello on board for a advisory or supervisory role, and bring someone fresh and talented in as head coach. I think Milan needs some reassurance and something of the old charm back. Discarding Capello simply because he hasn't been in club football for a while and is old IMO isn't wise.

[han2503]

Did Juve break any other Milan record recently? Anyway, agreed on that part Han, nicely put.

What I don't agree with you is your ageism thing and the answer you gave me.
Yes, Spalletti was a viable option. A loser coach who has nevertheless experience enough to master us through. Agreed. Yet the very fact that you came up with one name shows it all. Then you mention Hiddink and LvG out of no where, what gives you the idea they'd consider Milan or Italy? Hiddink came back to Chelsea because he could easily link up with the environment there he already knew. That's the same we tried with Capello. Now you say trying to bring don Fabio on board is a clueless/idealess try, but at the same time you propose another old coach who's never even coached in Italy?

I fail to see the logic in that, but I know, you're probably gonna say Hiddink is more vital the don Fabio and coached clubs more recently. Well, to me it's hardly enough.

The way I see this is that we have limited option:

A. We sign someone completely unknown who has links with Milan - we've done this twice and it didn't come out good.

B. We sign an more or less ambitious coach who'd consider Milan a next (good) step in his career (like Allegri)

C. We play the emotions card an sign someone respectable, like Rijkaard or Ancelotti (who went unavailable) just based on past ties.

I don't see much space for Hiddink's and van Gaal's landing at Milan in the future. What I would propose is we sign Lippi or Capello on board for a advisory or supervisory role, and bring someone fresh and talented in as head coach. I think Milan needs some reassurance and something of the old charm back. Discarding Capello simply because he hasn't been in club football for a while and is old IMO isn't wise.

Not sure, did they break our unbeaten record or not?

It's not about ageism, not like VG or Hiddink are spring chickens, but it's the type of coach Cappello is, he's too rigid and set in his ways, I don't think it would be a good idea at all to have him on as head coach, and I don't think Lippi is either.

Hiddink accepted the Chelsea bench knowing that he'll most likely be out come summer, so I don't think it would be much of a stretch to think that he'd take on the challenge at Milan. He's a coach with an endless amount of experience in terms of working with more limited teams, I personally think he'd be the perfect kind of coach to lead us out of this rough patch.

Also, I said Spelletti would be a good stepping stone solution, not the solution in and of itself.

And the proposal you're making here about having Fabio and Lippi on in advisory roles is a total different concept to having them as the actual head coach of the side, which I think would be a big mistake.

Also, you're forgetting that there have been other really good coaches available at times when we were looking and we passed them over for the cheaper and easier solutions (like Klopp for example)

[X-Offender]

Capello hasn't coached a club since 2007. He'd be a terrible choice. Not to mention he's way past his prime. The guy should just retire.

What we need is a visionary coach who understands modern football, but that's also accomplished something in his career. In other words, guys like Klopp or Emery, just to name a couple.

[Fillipo Simone]

Not sure, did they break our unbeaten record or not?

It's not about ageism, not like VG or Hiddink are spring chickens, but it's the type of coach Cappello is, he's too rigid and set in his ways, I don't think it would be a good idea at all to have him on as head coach, and I don't think Lippi is either.

Hiddink accepted the Chelsea bench knowing that he'll most likely be out come summer, so I don't think it would be much of a stretch to think that he'd take on the challenge at Milan. He's a coach with an endless amount of experience in terms of working with more limited teams, I personally think he'd be the perfect kind of coach to lead us out of this rough patch.

Also, I said Spelletti would be a good stepping stone solution, not the solution in and of itself.

And the proposal you're making here about having Fabio and Lippi on in advisory roles is a total different concept to having them as the actual head coach of the side, which I think would be a big mistake.

Also, you're forgetting that there have been other really good coaches available at times when we were looking and we passed them over for the cheaper and easier solutions (like Klopp for example)

Man, I can't follow your logic.

Yes, I agree, Capello hasn't been in the game lately. But as a interim solution he'd do fine.

You say don Fabio is too rigid, but suggest LvG who's probably the epitome of rigidity. How is that logical?

And Klopp, Emery? Emery rejected Milan. Klopp wanted a real challenging club, with money and ambition. Are we really that kind of club? You really think we can offer them something?

[kurtsimonw]

Let's not forget LvG is doing an awful job after spending £300m, why would we want him anywhere near our club?

[Fillipo Simone]

This is Han going over the top again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Hey guys.

I think Capello is a very innovative coach. I just think he's not the kind of person who can drop in and coach once a month as is expected in a national team. For that you need a person like Ancelotti who will be open to a few tactical flaws in his plan and hope his team's strong points are enough to cover it. Madrid was horribly imbalanced in his second season and the proof is in how much worse they look now he's gone.

Emery, in Serie A, I'm not sure. Serie A teams are very pragmatic these days and we need some instant success. So not sure how it will work out for him in a new league. Sousa has been impressive but now his tactics have been figured out and Fiorentina are struggling a bit ore.

If we needed new coaches, I'd go with the usual suspects - EDF and Donadoni. Both are different personalities with chips on their shoulders. But expectations would have to be kept very low.

But I'd keep Mihaijlovic for now. He has shown progress in play and in the team's mentality. I'd like him to get a couple of more transfer windows to iron out the pending flaws.

For me :

1. One Centre Back :Alex is running out of legs, Zapata is good as second tier refuses to make a jump in quality. Maybe Marquinhos?

2. A midfielder: We need a replacement/backup for Montolivo. The Bertolacci experiment is a flop. He is clearly a different kind of midfielder. Perhaps more adept in an X-Mas Tree. Basically to see Bertolacci play well, Bonaventura needs to be on the bench and you need a striker who will open up space for you. We haven't had one since Zlatan.

3. A connecting player: I can't define this role exactly. But our transitions are too slow . From defence to midfield, Montolivo and Kucka does a good role. From midfield to attack, Niang and sometimes Honda put in a hard shift. But we essentially are down to need two players to do one job. So if anyone of them is out we struggle.

[kurtsimonw]

I'm still hoping for Pastore. Only played 900 minutes this season.

[han2503]

LvG might not be doing anything special at Man U but I think he's a good tactician, I just don't think him and Man U are the right partnership.

Also, how is bring forth an idea (a name of a coach) going over the top Fillipo? I think he's definitely a better option to Capello who at this point in time in his career is just a name nothing more.

Also, I think it would be a mistake to go back to someone who already has a history with us, both a great one and a disappointing one

How many times are we going to repeat this cycle with both players and coaches?

[Nova]

I'm still hoping for Pastore. Only played 900 minutes this season.

Isn't he a bit overrated? I remember him playing at Palermo and I didn't understand what the fuss was all about.

[kurtsimonw]

Yaya Toure to Inter? That's such an Inter transfer. So overrated.

[Jack Sparrow]

Wouldn't say that just yet kurt. It's not about just Toure. Toure with Kondgobia and Jovetic in there is quite a difficult proposition. When you consider that our response to this is going to be Honda, Bertlocacci and Montolivo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)