[X-Offender]

WTF is wrong with Menez? He's jogging like we're winning 3-0, not even putting some grit in his performance.

[han2503]

Well it seems we have a pattern down pat. 2 wins 2 draws aside from the minor blip against Juve

[CrazyMilanFan]

what a save

[han2503]

Instead of being the ones to try and take initiative and go for the win in the last 20 minutes or so, we're the ones stuck in our half defending.

Today it felt like I was the Cagliari fan watching my team play against a better side instead of the reality which is the other way around

[X-Offender]

Man, what a piss poor performance. We're back to Allegri-level mediocrity.

[CrazyMilanFan]

genoa scored against juve now and unfortunately inter have also scored

[CrazyMilanFan]

1-1 what a dull second half

[han2503]

Another 2 points lost.

These are the teams we should be winning against if we want to play any European football next year yet nothing! No fighting spirit, no passion not even a f@cking ounce of incentive to try and go for it in the last few minutes. Cagliari showed more spirit and industry than us FFS!!

[X-Offender]

Another 2 points lost.

These are the teams we should be winning against if we want to play any European football next year yet nothing! No fighting spirit, no passion not even a f@cking ounce of incentive to try and go for it in the last few minutes. Cagliari showed more spirit and industry than us FFS!!

Really, Han, it's not that as if it's been different in our previous games. We were good only against Lazio and Parma. After that, nothingness. People look at the numbers and use them as excuses, but anyone who's followed this team for the last 3-4 years can deduce that nothing has changed whatsoever. Inzaghi has brought nothing to the table, only his complete lack of experience and amateurish decisions.

We lose 1-0 against Juve, people say it was normal, I said it was a travesty. We win 3-1 against Verona, people rejoice when in fact we were just incredibly lucky. We're sh*t, plain and simple, and we have to accept that. Tonight was another horrific performance. Like you said, not an ounce of passion and fighting spirit, just corpses walking on the field.

I give up. If we were going to accomplish something this season, we would have already showed the signs, but we have showed nothing. Absolutely nothing. The reason we're 3rd right now is due to the Serie A being a shite, shite league nowadays. Yet I know people will still rejoice about that, too.

[Danny]

Gave up on this one emotionally after we went behind. I'm not even angry, just feeling helpless at Pippo's increasingly shite management. He's just making ridiculous errors and not correcting them.

Ratings:

Abbiati: 6 Couple of good saves, couldn't do a thing with the goal.

Abate: 5 Quiet night from him, didn't get forward much and wasn't really threatened in defence.

Rami: 5 Cost us the goal and was atrocious for the first 30 minutes, but improved marginally in the second.

Alex: 7 Until Rami finally got his game on, was doing the work of two men. A collosus at the back and Pippo's best signing.

MDS: 4 Shambolic first half but I concede improvement from him to a level of 'OK' in the second. Nowhere near good enough but not as ghastly as Fiorentina.

Muntari: 3 Useless - once he got booked he was a passenger.

De Jong: 8 Titanic again. Just another superb display from him. But he can't win matches on his own.

Bona: 7 Wunder goal and did work hard but that SHOULDN'T BE HIS JOB FFS.

Honda: 3 Has hit a total shitter of form and is producing zero right now.

SES: 2 Wow, he is just cr*p cr*p cr*p.

Torres: 2 See SES.

Subs:

Poli: 5 solid enough.

Pazzo: 3 If we weren't making chances, why the f*ck bring Pazzo on?!

Menez: 2 Pathetic.

Pippo is doing my head in. This formation is NOT working - 4-3-3 DOES NOT WORK FILIPPO. The attack is non-existent and you're wasting both Honda and Menez. SES hasn't been in form since November 2012 FFS and Torres is worse than he was at Chelsea so far. But none of these f*ckers are being helped by this formation which is seeing a decline in form by match. Add to this the continued refusal to EVER PLAY OUR BEST TEAM and I'm less angry more bewildered.

They say the table doesn't lie, but how we are in third is an absolute miracle. Results around us have done us an amazing favour. No team in third should have 4 f*cking draws in 9 matches.

[han2503]

Really, Han, it's not that as if it's been different in our previous games. We were good only against Lazio and Parma. After that, nothingness. People look at the numbers and use them as excuses, but anyone who's followed this team for the last 3-4 years can deduce that nothing has changed whatsoever. Inzaghi has brought nothing to the table, only his complete lack of experience and amateurish decisions.

We lose 1-0 against Juve, people say it was normal, I said it was a travesty. We win 3-1 against Verona, people rejoice when in fact we were just incredibly lucky. We're sh*t, plain and simple, and we have to accept that. Tonight was another horrific performance. Like you said, not an ounce of passion and fighting spirit, just corpses walking on the field.

I give up. If we were going to accomplish something this season, we would have already showed the signs, but we have showed nothing. Absolutely nothing. The reason we're 3rd right now is due to the Serie A being a shite, shite league nowadays. Yet I know people will still rejoice about that, too.

The bolded part is sadly something that I'm now starting to believe as well

We're still seeing the silly decisions and mistakes we saw with Allegri, yet now they're amplified by a complete lack of know-how from the coach

What worries me the most at this point is the players and their attitudes. Today and Sunday's performances were shocking, not just in a technical sense (although that area was awful as well) but from a purely human angle, to see these guys jugging around without a f@cking care in the world when we're about to lose 2 vital points that in all honesty we should be getting without much trouble is just so unacceptable for me.

Menez coming on and acting like he's the sh!t and doing nothing personified this attitude for me, at least if SES is not bringing in his A game in the attack he's still busting a gut tracking back and doing the dirty work as well.

For me this attitude is what's really bothering me so much at this point, I can live with (and accept) the fact that we're not the best or 2nd best team in the league, far from it, but at least try to make up for that step down in quality with effort, and that's what I'm not seeing, it's the same thing we saw with Allegri over and over again.

As for the football side of things, the only thing I can say is WTF did I just waste 90+ minutes of my life watching??

Lethargic, slow, clueless, detached, lazy, terrible... I can't even think of more adjectives to describe what I saw out there.

[X-Offender]

Menez: 2 Pathetic.

He gets a zero from me. Fucking pathetic. Came in and did absolutely nothing other than jog like a lazy @ss mofo who doesn't give two shits. Is he that bummed that Pippo started benching him? F*ck you! I hope he gets benched for the rest of the season. At least SES always puts effort.

[William405]

Really, Han, it's not that as if it's been different in our previous games. We were good only against Lazio and Parma. After that, nothingness. People look at the numbers and use them as excuses, but anyone who's followed this team for the last 3-4 years can deduce that nothing has changed whatsoever. Inzaghi has brought nothing to the table, only his complete lack of experience and amateurish decisions.

We lose 1-0 against Juve, people say it was normal, I said it was a travesty. We win 3-1 against Verona, people rejoice when in fact we were just incredibly lucky. We're sh*t, plain and simple, and we have to accept that. Tonight was another horrific performance. Like you said, not an ounce of passion and fighting spirit, just corpses walking on the field.

I give up. If we were going to accomplish something this season, we would have already showed the signs, but we have showed nothing. Absolutely nothing. The reason we're 3rd right now is due to the Serie A being a shite, shite league nowadays. Yet I know people will still rejoice about that, too.

+1
You took the words right out of my mouth, can't agree more.

[Danny]

He gets a zero from me. Fucking pathetic. Came in and did absolutely nothing other than jog like a lazy @ss mofo who doesn't give two shits. Is he that bummed that Pippo started benching him? F*ck you! I hope he gets benched for the rest of the season. At least SES always puts effort.

Signs weren't good last week, worse this week when he was laughing and grinning when he came on. Didn't look like he gave a cr*p.

I think we now see why this guy has never really made it in football. Might have some talent but his attitude is deplorable. He reminds me of Niang before he started to mature, and Niang was 18 FFS. This guy is late 20s!

[han2503]

Gave up on this one emotionally after we went behind. I'm not even angry, just feeling helpless at Pippo's increasingly shite management. He's just making ridiculous errors and not correcting them.

Ratings:

Abbiati: 6 Couple of good saves, couldn't do a thing with the goal.

Abate: 5 Quiet night from him, didn't get forward much and wasn't really threatened in defence.

Rami: 5 Cost us the goal and was atrocious for the first 30 minutes, but improved marginally in the second.

Alex: 7 Until Rami finally got his game on, was doing the work of two men. A collosus at the back and Pippo's best signing.

MDS: 4 Shambolic first half but I concede improvement from him to a level of 'OK' in the second. Nowhere near good enough but not as ghastly as Fiorentina.

Muntari: 3 Useless - once he got booked he was a passenger.

De Jong: 8 Titanic again. Just another superb display from him. But he can't win matches on his own.

Bona: 7 Wunder goal and did work hard but that SHOULDN'T BE HIS JOB FFS.

Honda: 3 Has hit a total shitter of form and is producing zero right now.

SES: 2 Wow, he is just cr*p cr*p cr*p.

Torres: 2 See SES.

Subs:

Poli: 5 solid enough.

Pazzo: 3 If we weren't making chances, why the f*ck bring Pazzo on?!

Menez: 2 Pathetic.

Pippo is doing my head in. This formation is NOT working - 4-3-3 DOES NOT WORK FILIPPO. The attack is non-existent and you're wasting both Honda and Menez. SES hasn't been in form since November 2012 FFS and Torres is worse than he was at Chelsea so far. But none of these f*ckers are being helped by this formation which is seeing a decline in form by match. Add to this the continued refusal to EVER PLAY OUR BEST TEAM and I'm less angry more bewildered.

They say the table doesn't lie, but how we are in third is an absolute miracle. Results around us have done us an amazing favour. No team in third should have 4 f*cking draws in 9 matches.

Don't want to seem critical but I really want to comment on some of these ratings Danny.

First Abbiati... Cannot for the life of me understand why Pippo is picking him, he was passing out clangers all game long and imo he did make a mistake on the goal. He came flying out when there was no chance in hell that he was ever going to reach that.

Rami, he wasn't the only one at fault for the goal, he was second in a 4-bit sequence of errors imo. Also, he made an amazing goal line sliding clearance on a sure goal from Ibarbo a few minutes into the game. I thought he was solid overall aside from that slight blip on the goal. At this point we just have to accept that no matter who plays in defence we're going to concede. It's mostly due to the fact that the defenders have no cover from the midfield so it's very easy for teams to slice us open at will. We're very lucky to have drawn today imo

DS, no way he deserves just a 4 for today, he was one of the better players on the pitch for me today (not saying much I know). In fact I thought he was better than Abate today.

Abate, Rami and DS all made goal saving tackles/clearances today. Without their awareness and positioning we could be looking at a loss today (which sadly is what I think we need to give Pippo a good kick in the teeth, this drawing business and somehow miraculously finding ourselves in third must have him in some false sense of calm that he shouldn't be feeling)

The attackers in general... A this point I've given up on trying to see who's doing well and who isn't, who's **** and who isn't. The point is, these guys aren't getting any service, therefore they're not going to produce. You said it yourself, why bring on Pazzo when we're creating absolutely nothing but horse sh!t out there.

SES for me is just NOT a winger, end of. Playing him there, especially when everyone around him is so painfully static is just ridiculous. Notice that every time he gets the ball he's easily surrounded by 2 or 3 players and has not option but to pass it back to DS/Muntari. The only time that SES can work as a winger is if we're countering and he has acres of space to run into, aside from that it's a complete waste, he's not going to dribble 3 or 4 players and score.

Torres is just not getting any service, he's literally been forced to play a target man with long balls being punted at him or trying to shoot from balls that come loose after challenges. Just ridiculous, of course he's going to be utter sh!t and worse than at Chelsea, at least at Chelsea the guys behind him were creating chances for him to sky over the bar, here he's not even getting that

Honda, same argument as with SES really, he's been trying to do his best there and has mostly succeeded so far this season and that mostly goes to his sheer will and determination, he's still working his @ss off in the defensive phase of the game but he just cannot do what Pippo envisions for that right winger role. I really wish we could either see him as a CM or in the AM position, although neither will ever happen

Pretty much agree with the rest of you assessment, especially that last bit.

I absolutely cannot believe we're in 3rd! Just goes to show how weak the league is and my point about us having just as much of a chance to get 3rd simply on the bases that the other clubs competing for that position are just as terrible as we are