[han2503]

Well anyways, back to the CL. Neither of my predictions happened, which were a slender Juve win or Barca trashing Juve completely

I was impressed by Juve at certain times but I was also appalled at others

[Linkman]

I thought Pogba was huge. Vidal was a bit of a mess but also pretty big.

[Ry4n]

thought it would be 1-1 penalities or 2-1 to Barca

at 1-1 could of gone either way , juve had many chances before messi's goal.

Best team won in the end regardless.

[X-Offender]

Second half of pretty good, Juve were playing actually well after they equalized, but Suarez's goal closed the curtains. Too bad. There was a clear penalty on Pogba though that the ref completely missed.

[Ry4n]

Second half of pretty good, Juve were playing actually well after they equalized, but Suarez's goal closed the curtains. Too bad. There was a clear penalty on Pogba though that the ref completely missed.

Thought that was outside the box could be wrong though. Bonnuci and Vidal proved to be liabilities.

[han2503]

Thought that was outside the box could be wrong though. Bonnuci and Vidal proved to be liabilities.

x-off is probably talking about the incident in the box when Alves pulled Pogba down when he was about to turn and shoot.

Well I personally think the better team on the night won anyway. Yes there was that penalty, but Barca were simply better overall and could have scored more as well had Buffon not pulled off some amazing saves.

Juve were impressive in very short sporadic spells, but overall I would have expected them to play differently, especially with Allegri coaching them having faced Barca multiple times and also beat them on occasion as well with a much more inferior Milan.

[Ry4n]

x-off is probably talking about the incident in the box when Alves pulled Pogba down when he was about to turn and shoot.

Well I personally think the better team on the night won anyway. Yes there was that penalty, but Barca were simply better overall and could have scored more as well had Buffon not pulled off some amazing saves.

Juve were impressive in very short sporadic spells, but overall I would have expected them to play differently, especially with Allegri coaching them having faced Barca multiple times and also beat them on occasion as well with a much more inferior Milan.

ah right yeah i don't think that was either.

[han2503]

ah right yeah i don't think that was either.

Hmm, not sure I agree. Alves was grabbing at him and pulled him down imo

[Ry4n]

Hmm, not sure I agree. Alves was grabbing at him and pulled him down imo

Lets look at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RXGlnbBRYw

[han2503]

Lets look at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RXGlnbBRYw

Hmm, it could have gone either way tbh.

Maybe Alves didn't really pull him down, but he had his arm around him which could have easily been the deciding factor for another ref to give the penalty.

All in all I don't think the result can be blamed on the referee anyway, Barca were simply the better team

[acid911]

All in all I don't think the result can be blamed on the referee anyway, Barca were simply the better team

Or rather, the better coached team. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Allegri got his tactics all wrong (surprise). The loss of Chiellini was huge, and not just in the defensive sense of things, he had a hand in initiating attacks too for Juventus in the CL this season. And then the early goal just meant that the coaching manual was thrown out.

It shouldn't have been this way, though. Stick to a defensive play, and go out in the final 30 minutes of the match, take it to extra time and hit Barcelona when their players were tired. Also Tevez should have played in a trequartista role and tried to hustle the opposing defense. He was clearly wasted in his position, just couldn't get in the game.

Hindsights, I know, but a good coach should have targeted the glaring weaknesses of the Barcelona team. The lone goal that Juventus scored was the classic case of where their opponents were weak. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Should have focused there, but then again that's what separate the good from the great. Coaches, that is.

And although I still really dislike Juventus, I'd be lying if I say I was not disappointed with the loss. For Buffon, primarily. For him only, I guess. Ahead of the match I thought they were in with a solid chance, 50-50. But at 1-1 they should have slowed the game down and should have gotten back in defense.

Don't know what they were thinking, going for a winning goal, when extra time would have been ideal.

[Ry4n]

Hmm, it could have gone either way tbh.

Maybe Alves didn't really pull him down, but he had his arm around him which could have easily been the deciding factor for another ref to give the penalty.

All in all I don't think the result can be blamed on the referee anyway, Barca were simply the better team

I can agree. Juve had lots of chances to score. and Channel 4s ratings are not far off

http://www.football-italia.net/67463/cl-ju...-player-ratings

[kurtsimonw]

Or rather, the better coached team. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Allegri got his tactics all wrong (surprise).

I can't agree. Going with 4 CMs was definitely the right thing to do.

If not for a poor refereeing decision not to give the penalty, which became even more highlighted when Pogba was fouled again, seconds later, to allow Barca to break, it could very be a Juve victory.

This year Allegri has more than proved himself as a top coach. Even with a vastly superior squad, everyone's favourite Ancelotti couldn't beat him in a single game in two attempts, forget on overall score.

[acid911]

I can't agree. Going with 4 CMs was definitely the right thing to do.

Oh in terms of team selection he did alright. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) But a different coach would have played the game quite differently at 1-1. Tried to frustrate Barcelona. I'd even have gone in for the extra time, instead of attacking outright, which ultimately saw them concede. Overall though, he has been a success for Juventus.

Even though I don't think too highly of the man, and really dislike the club, I wanted a Juventus win in final.

If not for a poor refereeing decision not to give the penalty, which became even more highlighted when Pogba was fouled again, seconds later, to allow Barca to break, it could very be a Juve victory.

I'd say the refereeing was, for the lack of a better word lenient. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I felt he did okay, trying to keep the game flowing and not unnecessarily handing out cards. It was only after the game (in the media and on social channels) did I hear the alternate point of view about the penalty.

Did hurt Juventus that decision, yes, but then again, Vidal could have been sent off earlier too for his fouls.

This year Allegri has more than proved himself as a top coach. Even with a vastly superior squad, everyone's favourite Ancelotti couldn't beat him in a single game in two attempts, forget on overall score.

Oh, I have severe reservations about Ancelloti being a top coach. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) A lucky coach yes, and a decent enough tactician, one that has a handle on the game. But I've seen better ones that carry a team. Carlo is an elitist, and has been found wanting on so many occasions, as his 3 league titles in 18 years signifies.

Still consider Allegri even more of a limited coach, but he did well this season, all things considered. Agreed.

[X-Offender]

I don't see how Allegri could have played this differently. He did what we all expected him to do, play it safe and break them on the counter, which is the wisest thing to do when you're playing Barça. But his players didn't handle it too well, which coupled with Barça being awesome, it ultimately resulted in a defeat. Nothing more to say.