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Fillipo Simone
post Oct 20 2013, 03:17 PM
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Indeed. But, the thing is - Roma had the potential, they only needed a good or great coach. I always thought Spaletti did a bad job considering the squad he had at his disposal. Now let's see if Garcia is the one.

With Milan it's pretty much different. We don't need just a coach swap, it's only a necessary first step. What we need is a whole new backbone. That's what Roma doesn't have to worry about with Totti and De Rossi, at least for a while.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2013, 05:17 PM) *
Indeed. But, the thing is - Roma had the potential, they only needed a good or great coach. I always thought Spaletti did a bad job considering the squad he had at his disposal. Now let's see if Garcia is the one.

With Milan it's pretty much different. We don't need just a coach swap, it's only a necessary first step. What we need is a whole new backbone. That's what Roma doesn't have to worry about with Totti and De Rossi, at least for a while.


Why do you bring up Spaletti? That was long ago. The team he had at disposal was composed of completely different players.

Anyway, the last decent Roma side was in 2010 (even though prior to then they were average at best), when they came second to Inter. Since then they've been completely crap. Those who have failed in this aspect were Ranieri/Montella, Luis Enrique and Zeman/Anderazzoli. And yes, Roma did have potential in these last two seasons, but I also think we have potential. Just need a good coach to guide us.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 20 2013, 05:17 PM) *
Indeed. But, the thing is - Roma had the potential, they only needed a good or great coach. I always thought Spaletti did a bad job considering the squad he had at his disposal. Now let's see if Garcia is the one.

With Milan it's pretty much different. We don't need just a coach swap, it's only a necessary first step. What we need is a whole new backbone. That's what Roma doesn't have to worry about with Totti and De Rossi, at least for a while.


Couldn't agree more .

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post Oct 20 2013, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2013, 03:06 PM) *
Benetia? Really? They just sold a greatly talented young CB for nearly 40m this summer and replaced him with Benatia. Benatia is a good player and I like him. But he's just that; a good player. Mexes is a better defender than him and also a better footballer.

Roma are doing great because they have improved defensively as an entire unit, not just because of one player


Yep

Yes, you underrate way too many opposition players. Mexes is a better footballer, you're right. No way a better defender. Zapata is not even close to either.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:45 PM
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Fiorentina just scored 3 goals in about 5 minutes. Hatrick rossi , wasnt he a Milanfan ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:46 PM
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I just saw Juve were 2-1 up and WTF!?
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:47 PM
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Just seeing the score now. 4-2 they trail 10 minutes to go.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 20 2013, 05:46 PM) *
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I just saw Juve were 2-1 up and WTF!?


Juve were actually 0-2 up . Good to see juve and napoli lose !
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:53 PM
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Roma 5 points clear and already 8 points clear of 4th place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:55 PM
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Interesting little point worth noting for all us doom-sayers:

Milan have only been beaten by HV, Napoli and Juve this season. In all competitions. All 3 of these are having pretty dang good seasons and are all inside the top 5 in the league.

Amazing how you can paint a rosier picture when you actually examine the numbers and who we lost to.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 20 2013, 05:44 PM) *
Yes, you underrate way too many opposition players. Mexes is a better footballer, you're right. No way a better defender. Zapata is not even close to either.


No, he doesn't. You just underestimate our players. Mexes is way better in every sense than Benatia. And honestly, Zapata would be another player at Roma right now, just like Benatia would suck @ss at this Milan.

QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 20 2013, 05:45 PM) *
Fiorentina just scored 3 goals in about 5 minutes. Hatrick rossi , wasnt he a Milanfan ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Oh wow! I saw earlier it was 2-0 for Juve and thought game over.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 20 2013, 03:44 PM) *
Yes, you underrate way too many opposition players. Mexes is a better footballer, you're right. No way a better defender. Zapata is not even close to either.

And you underrate our players and overrate opposition players. And it wasn't me who talked about Zapata in the first place, x-off mentioned him and I agree with him anyways.

Mexes is better in every aspect than Benatia. It's ridiculous to say otherwise and if we had brought him in, as x-off also pointed out, he'd be just as terrible as Zapata has been, our problem has never been about the individuals. We had top class, best in their positions individuals under Allegri as well and he failed with that group as well and never managed to cultivate a proper team from those individuals.

Like I said, I like Benetia, but he's just a good player, he'd be lost if he were playing in this clueless Milan side under Allegri.

QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 20 2013, 03:45 PM) *
Fiorentina just scored 3 goals in about 5 minutes. Hatrick rossi , wasnt he a Milanfan ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yeah, and we were heavily linked with him both when he was at Parma and at Villarreal

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 20 2013, 03:55 PM) *
Interesting little point worth noting for all us doom-sayers:

Milan have only been beaten by HV, Napoli and Juve this season. In all competitions. All 3 of these are having pretty dang good seasons and are all inside the top 5 in the league.

Amazing how you can paint a rosier picture when you actually examine the numbers and who we lost to.

Yet we're in the bottom half of the table because we're in week 8 of the league and still have not managed 1 single away win, neither in the CL.

The numbers speak for themselves when you look at the table and the amount of goals we've conceded this season

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2013, 03:59 PM) *
No, he doesn't. You just underestimate our players. Mexes is way better in every sense than Benatia. And honestly, Zapata would be another player at Roma right now, just like Benatia would suck @ss at this Milan.

This!


And wow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) @ Juve. They'll probably come out swinging after this and won't lose a game for the rest of the season as they did last season after their loss to Inter.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 20 2013, 05:11 PM) *
And you underrate our players and overrate opposition players. And it wasn't me who talked about Zapata in the first place, x-off mentioned him and I agree with him anyways.

Mexes is better in every aspect than Benatia. It's ridiculous to say otherwise and if we had brought him in, as x-off also pointed out, he'd be just as terrible as Zapata has been, our problem has never been about the individuals. We had top class, best in their positions individuals under Allegri as well and he failed with that group as well and never managed to cultivate a proper team from those individuals.

All of the above is wrong.

Winning a title is failing.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 20 2013, 07:45 PM) *
Fiorentina just scored 3 goals in about 5 minutes. Hatrick rossi , wasnt he a Milanfan ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Are'nt they all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Does'nt Manchester United have a clause for him still or was that only between Villreal and Man United for the buy back option.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (Ry4n @ Oct 20 2013, 06:23 PM) *
Are'nt they all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Does'nt Manchester United have a clause for him still or was that only between Villreal and Man United for the buy back option.


Rossi stopped being a ManU player in every sense six years ago, WTF?!
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