[X-Offender]

You're looking too much into this, Danny. Most people's reactions were to my comment that "Muntari and Allegri should die", which I obviously didn't mean and only kept it going as a means to mess around with Max. But seriously, saying something like "I hate person X more than anyone else in the world" is only a natural reaction to a certain unpleasant situation, and blowing things out of proportion by throwing in Hitler, Mugabe and whatnot like you did is going overboard. Just chill out.

[han2503]

Not true. His initial post WAS his elaboration. And you agreed with it.



When it comes to an over the top comment such as hating someone more than you've ever hated anyone ever in the history of everything purely based on their management of your football team, then is that rational on any level at all?

If you think that's rational then 'I seriously feel sorry for you'.

You're seriously making a big deal out of absolutely nothing. X-off said he hated him, that is what I agreed with, his over elaboration was just an OTT way of expressing himself. Your argument basically holds no ground imo. Who are you to say who I hate more than anything in my life? And who x-off hates more than anything? For all we know x-off thinks murderous thoughts about his next door neighbour because he plays his music too loudly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . Hitler? Thankfully I never lived in that time, I don't HATE Hitler I have a distaste towards the things he's done but saying I hate him more than anything else in my life is pretty ridiculous considering Hitler never did anything to me. Do you spend 99% of your time thinking how much you absolutely HATE Hitler for crying out loud? I don't know why he was even brought into the conversation tbh.

Back to the root of it, X-off said he hated Allegri, I feel the same way, I agreed with him. Does that mean that I hate him more than anyone else in my life? NO, because I knew that x-off was simply exaggerating something to make a point.

You're seriously making a huge fuss over nothing.

I explained to you why I hate Allegri, the COACH not the man. And I stand by that. Does that make me irrational in your book? Because if that's the case then you should seriously consider throwing it out!

[kurtsimonw]

Anyone that doesn't like Allegri is Hitler.

[X-Offender]

You're seriously making a big deal out of absolutely nothing. X-off said he hated him, that is what I agreed with, his over elaboration was just an OTT way of expressing himself. Your argument basically holds no ground imo. Who are you to say who I hate more than anything in my life? And who x-off hates more than anything? For all we know x-off thinks murderous thoughts about his next door neighbour because he plays his music too loudly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . Hitler? Thankfully I never lived in that time, I don't HATE Hitler I have a distaste towards the things he's done but saying I hate him more than anything else in my life is pretty ridiculous considering Hitler never did anything to me. Do you spend 99% of your time thinking how much you absolutely HATE Hitler for crying out loud? I don't know why he was even brought into the conversation tbh.

Back to the root of it, X-off said he hated Allegri, I feel the same way, I agreed with him. Does that mean that I hate him more than anyone else in my life? NO, because I knew that x-off was simply exaggerating something to make a point.

You're seriously making a huge fuss over nothing.

I explained to you why I hate Allegri, the COACH not the man. And I stand by that. Does that make me irrational in your book? Because if that's the case then you should seriously consider throwing it out!

Thank you!

Anyone that doesn't like Allegri is Hitler.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

Anyone that doesn't like Allegri is Hitler.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Danny]

You're seriously making a big deal out of absolutely nothing. X-off said he hated him, that is what I agreed with, his over elaboration was just an OTT way of expressing himself. Your argument basically holds no ground imo. Who are you to say who I hate more than anything in my life? And who x-off hates more than anything? For all we know x-off thinks murderous thoughts about his next door neighbour because he plays his music too loudly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . Hitler? Thankfully I never lived in that time, I don't HATE Hitler I have a distaste towards the things he's done but saying I hate him more than anything else in my life is pretty ridiculous considering Hitler never did anything to me. Do you spend 99% of your time thinking how much you absolutely HATE Hitler for crying out loud? I don't know why he was even brought into the conversation tbh.

Back to the root of it, X-off said he hated Allegri, I feel the same way, I agreed with him. Does that mean that I hate him more than anyone else in my life? NO, because I knew that x-off was simply exaggerating something to make a point.

You're seriously making a huge fuss over nothing.

I explained to you why I hate Allegri, the COACH not the man. And I stand by that. Does that make me irrational in your book? Because if that's the case then you should seriously consider throwing it out!

I do owe you and X a slight apology. While I completely stand by my logic I shamelessly invoked the use of Godwin's law in this thread.

And that is a tragic crime on the Internet.

[William405]

I do owe you and X a slight apology. While I completely stand by my logic I shamelessly invoked the use of Godwin's law in this thread.

And that is a tragic crime on the Internet.

XD. I think it's ok, being different people from different cultures misunderstandings like this are bound to happen.

[drucurl]

Allegri isn't Hitler. He actually seems like a moderately decent bloke.

However his own mentality and tactical approach, or lack thereof is not compatible with a team like Milan. Truth be told however, I'm not quite sure if "Milan Material" and "milan standards" means much these days tbh.

Allegri's flaws are (to me)

1)Slow reaction to in-game developments (unless your name is Pato, then he'll toss you immediately for missing a pen)

2)Late practically meaningless subsitutions

3)Horrifically inappropriate lineups/approach/tactics....and before you say he is the expert and not me....he later corrects his own faux pas to what it should be and then the team improves infinitely

4) Personal altercations and disagreement with his players gets in the way of his professional responsibilities to field the best team

5) Seems incompatible with the more technical, less physical players. We only have empirical and circumstantial evidence to go on though.

6)Generally negative approach unless we are mindlessly pressing

7)Team seems unmotivated and confused....if Berlu's arrival motivated the f**k out of the team and Galliani has to advise him on tactics...AND the Milan Lab has to get him to alter trainings to injure our players less...then what exactly is his purpose here? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by drucurl: Feb 18 2013, 01:49 PM

[X-Offender]

Milan-Barca thread, anyone?

[William405]

**** that xD

[han2503]

lol, everyone dreads even the mere opening of the thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[X-Offender]

Why, we will win. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

[Forza Milan!]

Allegri isn't Hitler. He actually seems like a moderately decent bloke.

However his own mentality and tactical approach, or lack thereof is not compatible with a team like Milan. Truth be told however, I'm not quite sure if "Milan Material" and "milan standards" means much these days tbh.

Allegri's flaws are (to me)

1)Slow reaction to in-game developments (unless your name is Pato, then he'll toss you immediately for missing a pen)

2)Late practically meaningless subsitutions

3)Horrifically inappropriate lineups/approach/tactics....and before you say he is the expert and not me....he later corrects his own faux pas to what it should be and then the team improves infinitely

4) Personal altercations and disagreement with his players gets in the way of his professional responsibilities to field the best team

5) Seems incompatible with the more technical, less physical players. We only have empirical and circumstantial evidence to go on though.

6)Generally negative approach unless we are mindlessly pressing

7)Team seems unmotivated and confused....if Berlu's arrival motivated the f**k out of the team and Galliani has to advise him on tactics...AND the Milan Lab has to get him to alter trainings to injure our players less...then what exactly is his purpose here? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Thanks, this sums it up quite nicely :-)

Let me add one more point. Compare Milan with Fiorentina. Both teams got restructured this year, so the two coaches had a similar challange (if anything, Montella had it harder as he just started - and please don't tell me that Fiorentina's squad is close to ours in player quality). Yet is is a pleasure to watch Fiorentina play (I particularly enjoyed how the demolished Inter), while it is painful to watch Milan. Yes we have climbed out of our hole and are ahead of them in standings, but just think what someone like Montella could do with our squad.

For that matter, I don't believe our squad is much worse than Juve in quality. The difference IMHO is the coach.

Regarding MilanLab, there was an interesting interview from the bloke that was (is?) in charge, who basically said that the medical facilities were cut a few years ago (coincidentally when our injury problem started) and all we have right now are the training facilities.

This post has been edited by Forza Milan!: Feb 19 2013, 03:20 AM

[X-Offender]

Thanks, this sums it up quite nicely :-)

Let me add one more point. Compare Milan with Fiorentina. Both teams got restructured this year, so the two coaches had a similar challange (if anything, Montella had it harder as he just started - and please don't tell me that Fiorentina's squad is close to ours in player quality). Yet is is a pleasure to watch Fiorentina play (I particularly enjoyed how the demolished Inter), while it is painful to watch Milan. Yes we have climbed out of our hole and are ahead of them in standings, but just think what someone like Montella could do with our squad.

For that matter, I don't believe our squad is much worse than Juve in quality. The difference IMHO is the coach.

Agreed.

[han2503]

Agreed.

Same