[han2503]

Good fighting effort in the end. But once again it all fals back to the initial mess Allegri made with the starting line-up. And had he made smarter subs we could have won this in the end.

Next game I want to see this ridiculous 3-man defence system scrapped.

A 4-3-3 is the way to go. Maybe more in the Barca style rather than a flat 3 in midfield, something like this

Abate--Mexes--Zapata--Constant
Nocerino--DJ
Monto
Bojan--Pato--El Shaa

The reason why I picked Constant for the LB position is because he truely impressed me once we reverted to the back-4.

[X-Offender]

Good fighting effort in the end. But once again it all fals back to the initial mess Allegri made with the starting line-up. And had he made smarter subs we could have won this in the end.

Next game I want to see this ridiculous 3-man defence system scrapped.

A 4-3-3 is the way to go. Maybe more in the Barca style rather than a flat 3 in midfield, something like this

Abate--Mexes--Zapata--Constant
Nocerino--DJ
Monto
Bojan--Pato--El Shaa

The reason why I picked Constant for the LB position is because he truely impressed me once we reverted to the back-4.

But we all know Allegri will play shitty Emanuelson instead of Bojan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[han2503]

Seconded. Really pissed me off tonight. He thinks he's Cristiano Ronaldo.

I agree with han, we looked so much better after the subs, although it was more of a 4-2-4 than 4-3-3. Still, perhaps switching to 4-3-3 would be a good idea. Also, Constant is a good LB.

Didn't see this before I made my last post, completely agree with all of it.

I don't think it was a 4-2-4 though, Urby and Nocerino were mostly doing running up and down. They didn't look like they had a set position once we changed it around.

It was a 4-3-3 but the midfield trio had basically free reign which is why Urby ended up in the box so much.

To think had El Shaa scored off that perfect cross by Abate we would have won this. That would have been a huge boost to come back from 2 down and win

[Zed.D]

Pazzini and Urby: BAD BAD SUBS.

I'm satisfied with our performance. wish we could get that 3rd goal though.

The players look like they barely bother

What game were you watching?

To be fair to Allegri Pato wasn't doing much either....just cuz he is Pato isn't enough for him to stay on the pitch...he wasn't working hard at all today

Did you see Pazzini?

If Pato was subbed as to not risk his health, then I can't complain. otherwise him, Bojan and El Sha should have been our front three.

[han2503]

But we all know Allegri will play shitty Emanuelson instead of Bojan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And Bonera and/or Yepes instead of the far better Mexes and Zapata. And he'll most likely stick with the 3-man defence and mess around with the midfield again.

Nocerino was really good today, almost back to last season's form. He should be used when he's playing we he provides us with so much energy in midfield.

Montolivo though just blew me away today

[X-Offender]

What game were you watching?

Seriously? Until Palermo scored their second, we were barely trying. Then Allegri made the subs, Montolivo scored and we got all fired up.

[han2503]

What game were you watching?

Did you see Pazzini?

If Pato was subbed as to not risk his health, then I can't complain. otherwise him, Bojan and El Sha should have been our front three.

Before we scored the first they looked like they'd given up/did not care

Agreed completely about Pazzini. What a waste of money, time, resources, shirt, minutes on the pitch etc. How Allegri can choose him over Bojan or Pato is beyond me.

Pato was subbed out because Allegri thought he'd throw in Pazzini to save the day, when Pazzini wouldn't be able to save a drowning rat from a a shallow puddle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Zed.D]

Seriously? Until Palermo scored their second, we were barely trying. Then Allegri made the subs, Montolivo scored and we got all fired up.

I don't think they didn't bother. they were too afraid to push forward at 0-0.

[X-Offender]

And Bonera and/or Yepes instead of the far better Mexes and Zapata. And he'll most likely stick with the 3-man defence and mess around with the midfield again.

Nocerino was really good today, almost back to last season's form. He should be used when he's playing we he provides us with so much energy in midfield.

Montolivo though just blew me away today

Agreed. However, I believe Bonera is a firm starter to Allegri at this point, so I can't see him being scrapped.

[han2503]

Agreed. However, I believe Bonera is a firm starter to Allegri at this point, so I can't see him being scrapped.

I conceed Bonera if all the rest of the cr@p is fixed.

As long as we're playing a formation that suites the team and that the very best 11 is starting that formation with ALL of them in their proper positions then I don't mind Bonera (if he is being played next to Mexes, no Yepes and Bonera together)

[Danny]

Absolutely vile first half - organisation was all over the place and Pato genuinely looked like he simply did not care.

Taking him off and putting Bojan on made all the difference. First time the Spaniard has looked like the player he was at Barca. Really inspirational stuff from him, and that first run and shot just utterly sparked him into life and thereafter he was the centre of all that was good.

Monto also had a fine second half, and between the two of them and SES we looked like a dangerous side after the break.

It's just a pity that Allegri persists with this nonsense formation which doesn't work - as I said a hundred times a 3 at the back only works if you have 5 defenders who are 100% in tune and know the system. The 3 CBs and whoever plays as WB don't seem to know what they're doing and it does not work.

This was a Jekyll and Hyde display - a defensive mess, but then a much better attacking display in the second half.

Draw was a fair result overall but I have to blame and credit Allegri in equal measure.

Bad lineup and formation to start with, but he made good subs which affected the match.

[X-Offender]

I just noticed, El Shaarawy is top scorer of Serie A with 7 goals.

[kurtsimonw]

That's surprising.

[Rossoneri7]

2-0 and I fell asleep. Maybe I should have slept earlier?

[han2503]

Absolutely vile first half - organisation was all over the place and Pato genuinely looked like he simply did not care.

Taking him off and putting Bojan on made all the difference. First time the Spaniard has looked like the player he was at Barca. Really inspirational stuff from him, and that first run and shot just utterly sparked him into life and thereafter he was the centre of all that was good.

Monto also had a fine second half, and between the two of them and SES we looked like a dangerous side after the break.

It's just a pity that Allegri persists with this nonsense formation which doesn't work - as I said a hundred times a 3 at the back only works if you have 5 defenders who are 100% in tune and know the system. The 3 CBs and whoever plays as WB don't seem to know what they're doing and it does not work.

This was a Jekyll and Hyde display - a defensive mess, but then a much better attacking display in the second half.

Draw was a fair result overall but I have to blame and credit Allegri in equal measure.

Bad lineup and formation to start with, but he made good subs which affected the match.

It wasn't the Bojan for Pato move that changed things around. It was when Yepes was taken off and we switched it around to a 4-3-3.

It's very clear that every single player in this team is not suited to such a system. Abate, Mexes, Constant, Monto, Nocerino, etc. They all improved in leaps when we switched around to a back 4.

Bojan in reality should have come on for Yepes and a front 3 with him, El Shaa and Pato should have been left on. Pazzini is an absolutely pointless inclusion in this team, no matter what system or what players we have around him, he's still completely useless and adds nothing to our game.

Also, don't mistake Pato's hesitancy with not caring. He's still getting back into the swing of things. Let's not forget that he hasn't played a competitive game in MONTHS now, and for Milan even longer. He needs time, but he certainly provides a hell of a lot more than Pazzini does, especially when he drops back to pick the ball up and run with it.

Not denying that Bojan brought the spark we needed, because he improved us a lot once he cam on and proved to Allegri why he should be started on the right instead of the useless Urby. It's just the way Allegri made the subs that was wrong.

A front 3 of El Shaa on the left, Pato down the center and Bojan on the right could be amazing if it is given the chance to flurish. They're all very versatile, quick and tricky players. They could be a nightmare to mark if thing click for them as a trio, but that can only happen if they're given game time together