[Zed.D]

Naturally, but in the end it's our own fault. We've closed down things way to early and we had it coming. El Sha today was as poor as Pato, if not worse. Playing without a real striker didn't pay off, just like earlier this season.

I don't think anyone can be worse than Pato these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) El Sha did well IMO.

As for Pato, something's seriously wrong with him. he looks beyond clumsy. he's just come back from injury and I'm hoping he won't get another time for a while to see if he will improve after training and playing more games. he should... I don't want to sound like an optimistic fanboy, but I refuse to believe he's suddenly lost every footballing abilities he had. it's got to be the pressure of injuries and rehabilitation.

[X-Offender]

Ambrosini for Emanuelson has been the most stupid, senseless substitution I've seen a manager make in my life. 4 DMs??? For crying out loud...

[CrazyMilanFan]

Ambrosini for Emanuelson has been the most stupid, senseless substitution I've seen a manager make in my life. 4 DMs??? For crying out loud...

i think neither of robinho or emaulson had 90 mins in them, one of them had to go imo..

[CrazyMilanFan]

Ambrosini for Emanuelson has been the most stupid, senseless substitution I've seen a manager make in my life. 4 DMs??? For crying out loud...

i think neither of robinho or emaulson had 90 mins in them, one of them had to go imo..

[drucurl]

Ambrosini for Emanuelson has been the most stupid, senseless substitution I've seen a manager make in my life.
4 DMs??? For crying out loud...

Allergy = Genius (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Closes up shop with nearly half an hour remaining and cuts off the striker's supply(IMG:http://www.milanfan.com/forums/style_images/bullet/folder_post_icons/icon12.gif)

[Zed.D]

Damn Allegri, how could you sub Ambrosini for Emanuelson??? Since that moment, we never had any ball possession and Juve just kept pushing. Absolutely disgraceful.

Juve had started to put pressure on us when Max made that sub. obviously to give us more defensive depth.

It's funny. once Max was constantly attacked for using Urby AT ALL, now he's being attacked for subbing his favorite player. a player none of you ever believee was worthy of all the Max's trust and the minutes he got.

[X-Offender]

i think neither of robinho or emaulson had 90 mins in them, one of them had to go imo..

And I think they both had 90 minutes in them. Fact of the matter is that we already had a very defensive midfield in the starting line-up. Subbing the only player that gave us depth and a upper hand in counterattacking and ball possession for a depleted, brainless player that lost the ball every time he touched is Serie B stuff.

[Zed.D]

4DMs? I don't think you can call Nocerino who was constantly involved in our attacks a DEFENSIVE midfielder.

[Fillipo Simone]

And I think they both had 90 minutes in them. Fact of the matter is that we already had a very defensive midfield in the starting line-up. Subbing the only player that gave us depth and a upper hand in counterattacking and ball possession for a depleted, brainless player that lost the ball every time he touched is Serie B stuff.

This.

Defensive depth? Come on! This was Milan on San Siro, and we practically invited Juventus to come over, take the ball and attack in waves. We defended too deep and the only thing that made it bearable was the counter-attacks via Emanuelson, Robinho and El Shaarawy. But then Allegri had to tamper with that, add more "stability" with Ambrosini on the left, and that destroyed any chance of Milan actually being creative. El Sha went out shut down, Robinho lost between midfield and defense.

[X-Offender]

4DMs? I don't think you can call Nocerino who was constantly involved in our attacks a DEFENSIVE midfielder.

He's no Aquilani and he's no Boateng. He was raised as a DM, and doesn't have the skills to be labeled an offensive midfielder. The fact he was attacking very often is because that's what Allegri asks from all his midfielders. Oh, how we missed Ibra and Boa tonight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[CrazyMilanFan]

And I think they both had 90 minutes in them. Fact of the matter is that we already had a very defensive midfield in the starting line-up. Subbing the only player that gave us depth and a upper hand in counterattacking and ball possession for a depleted, brainless player that lost the ball every time he touched is Serie B stuff.

fair enough... imo he made the right decision and yea the midfield was defensive but unfortunately there was no one else availbel at all i think boateng, seedorf aquaman had we had one of them available it would have been quite a different outcome...

[X-Offender]

This.

Defensive depth? Come on! This was Milan on San Siro, and we practically invited Juventus to come over, take the ball and attack in waves. We defended too deep and the only thing that made it bearable was the counter-attacks via Emanuelson, Robinho and El Shaarawy. But then Allegri had to tamper with that, add more "stability" with Ambrosini on the left, and that destroyed any chance of Milan actually being creative. El Sha went out shut down, Robinho lost between midfield and defense.

Ditto. As I said earlier, the moment Emanuelson was subbed, Juventus increased their pressure, and we lost the only weapon that could have seriously knocked them down: counterattacks. Not to mention Urby's presence was fundamental in our ball possession. He was practically the one most involved in our game. Very poor stuff from Allegri.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Feb 25 2012, 11:29 PM

[Zed.D]

He's no Aquilani and he's no Boateng. He was raised as a DM, and doesn't have the skills to be labeled an offensive midfielder. The fact he was attacking very often is because that's what Allegri asks from all his midfielders. Oh, how we missed Ibra and Boa tonight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

What do you mean "label"? this is not PES or FIFA, this is real world and everything is relative. yes Noce lacks the qualities a real AM has, but that doesn't mean he can't be employed in that position and do a fairly OK job at it. Nocerino was not a defensive midfielder tonight.

[X-Offender]

What do you mean "label"? this is not PES or FIFA, this is real world and everything is relative. yes Noce lacks the qualities a real AM has, but that doesn't mean he can't be employed in that position and do a fairly OK job at it. Nocerino was not a defensive midfielder tonight.

What are you even talking about? FIFA? PES? I'm saying that Nocerino is a defensive midfielder. He is better at defending, closing spaces, pressing the opponent and everything else a defensive midfielder does than attacking. The fact that he often participates in our attacking manoeuvre and scores some goals doesn't make him an attacking minded player. Sheesh...

[CrazyMilanFan]

btw here is the reason for pato sub

“Pato was not 100 per cent fit, as he had a muscular twinge during the first half, so rather than risk I preferred to replace him.