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post Sep 7 2013, 09:05 PM
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Saponara scored in the friendly against Chiasso. So I guess that answers the mystery surrounding him.
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post Sep 7 2013, 09:14 PM
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How? It just adds to the mystery why he wasn't listed for the CL.
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post Sep 7 2013, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 7 2013, 11:14 PM) *
How? It just adds to the mystery why he wasn't listed for the CL.


We probably won't need him for the CL..even if Kaka is injured..we'll probably adopt a 4-3-3. I really think he can explode, but given the circumstances...and the way we deal with our young players..he'll probably be loaned up come January.
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post Sep 7 2013, 10:20 PM
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Not that I agree with it, but I think the CL thing is just like they did with El Sha, adding him to the list only in January because they want to see if he's good enough first, not to pressure him early or some other Allegri bullshit reason. He should have been there instead of Birsa.
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post Sep 8 2013, 09:42 AM
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Btw, Allegri yesterday confirmed that DS will be back in training tomorrow and they don't think Abate's injury was serious.

So at worst we'll be without Abate against Torino but hopefully he'll be back before then

Aside from that I don't think we have any injuries atm aside from Pazzini's long term recovery after surgery
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:16 PM
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http://football-italia.net/node/39301

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post Sep 9 2013, 06:37 PM
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:41 PM
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Need to be mentally prepared to watching Zaccardo as our RB...
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post Sep 9 2013, 06:44 PM
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Wonder why Allegri said he'd be back in training this week if this was the case...

So currently we have zero FBs available... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 9 2013, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2013, 08:44 PM) *
Wonder why Allegri said he'd be back in training this week if this was the case...

So currently we have zero FBs available... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


Actually, we have Constant, Emanuelson and Zaccardo available as FBs. Personally, I would play Pedone from the primavera rather than frigging Zaccardo on the right.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2013, 07:56 PM) *
Actually, we have Constant, Emanuelson and Zaccardo available as FBs. Personally, I would play Pedone from the primavera rather than frigging Zaccardo on the right.

Constant and Urby can't even be considered actual FBs, they can cut it (just barely) against most sides in Serie A but against the better sides they're all seriously weak links.

Can Silvestre play at RB?

He's definitely better than Zaccardo, plus he's very strong aerially both offensively and most importantly, defensively.

Hopefully Abate will be back before Celtic if we're lucky
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post Sep 9 2013, 08:42 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Zaccardo is not as bad as he is made out to be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I mean, this Constant chap is nothing special, and I'd put him in the same bracket as Zaccardo. Scig, Abate and Mexes are the only real defense we have, guys who play with their eyes and ear open.

The rest are all prone to mistakes, and regularly at that. As for Emanuelson, he can play as the GK and it would not make a diddlysquat of a difference. He is the very definition of mediocrity.
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post Sep 9 2013, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 9 2013, 08:42 PM) *
Am I the only one who thinks Zaccardo is not as bad as he is made out to be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I mean, this Constant chap is nothing special, and I'd put him in the same bracket as Zaccardo. Scig, Abate and Mexes are the only real defense we have, guys who play with their eyes and ear open.

The rest are all prone to mistakes, and regularly at that. As for Emanuelson, he can play as the GK and it would not make a diddlysquat of a difference. He is the very definition of mediocrity.

Zaccardo can be a half decent defensive RB. But offensively he's terrible and untrustworthy in the centre

I think both Constant and Urby are decent LBs against run of the mill sides but anything more advanced and they'll get exposed for the average players they truly are.

Also, I think Urby gets a lot of unfair criticism here simply because he's used at every position bar the aforementioned GK position. He's just a victim to the Allegri "tactical machine" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

One last thing on Zaccardo, I'm sorry, but personally, I'll never see him as anything more than the terrible RB who sliced a horrible own goal in the WC in 06 against the US to mar a perfect defensive record (Zidane penalty aside)
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post Sep 9 2013, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2013, 02:02 AM) *
Also, I think Urby gets a lot of unfair criticism here simply because he's used at every position bar the aforementioned GK position. He's just a victim to the Allegri "tactical machine"

Yeah, well, add to the fact that he's a dud in every role. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I mean, I've never seen him really shine in the myriad of positions he has been forced to play in. Still waiting for that moment, but he's just, well, pedestrian. Boateng and Nocerino had their moments, I'm yet to see it from Urby. Not that we don't need a player like him for rainy days.

I don't even mind him playing or starting. I know what I'll be getting.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2013, 02:02 AM) *
One last thing on Zaccardo, I'm sorry, but personally, I'll never see him as anything more than the terrible RB who sliced a horrible own goal in the WC in 06 against the US to mar a perfect defensive record (Zidane penalty aside)

Ha, that's what I feared. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This was one thing that was on my mind while I was hitting submit on my previous post. Apologies accepted, but man, he's just an average Italian defender, and they are not all that bad. Just okay. And own goals can happen to the best, unless you are Maldini or Nesta.
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post Sep 9 2013, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 9 2013, 09:14 PM) *
Yeah, well, add to the fact that he's a dud in every role. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I mean, I've never seen him really shine in the myriad of positions he has been forced to play in. Still waiting for that moment, but he's just, well, pedestrian. Boateng and Nocerino had their moments, I'm yet to see it from Urby. Not that we don't need a player like him for rainy days.

I don't even mind him playing or starting. I know what I'll be getting.


Ha, that's what I feared. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This was one thing that was on my mind while I was hitting submit on my previous post. Apologies accepted, but man, he's just an average Italian defender, and they are not all that bad. Just okay. And own goals can happen to the best, unless you are Maldini or Nesta.

But the thing is he was barely even average. Even in his Palermo days, the only reason he was called along with the other Palermo duds was because of some corrupt business between Lippi's son and some agency so his father did him a solid and called up the players he was representing. It was part of the huge Calciopoli fiasco that created a domino effect with things being revealed at each turn.

Personally, I think against the better sides and in the CL Allegri should go for a 4-5-1 to give extra cover to the FBs and pack up that midfield because our defence is too vulnerable atm
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