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post Jan 17 2012, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 17 2012, 03:09 PM) *
Is it a fact really?

What I said? Yeah.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 16 2012, 08:13 PM) *
Fact: His win record is about the same as Sacchi/Capello/Ancelotti.


Sacchi: 54.08% wins.
Capello: 53.00% wins.
Ancelotti: 56.67% wins.

Allegri: 56.16% wins.

A win in his next game takes him to 56.75%, so he'd actually have a better win % than any of the previously mentioned. Take it how you want it, but in my opinion he's also had the weakest overall squad of the 4 as well.
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 17 2012, 03:47 PM) *
What I said? Yeah.



Sacchi: 54.08% wins.
Capello: 53.00% wins.
Ancelotti: 56.67% wins.

Allegri: 56.16% wins.

A win in his next game takes him to 56.75%, so he'd actually have a better win % than any of the previously mentioned. Take it how you want it, but in my opinion he's also had the weakest overall squad of the 4 as well.


I also read we are the third highest scoring Milan side since Silvio took over. The other two were 92/93 Capello and 2003/4 Ancelotti IIRC - and look at the players they had at their disposal!!!!!!

Like him or not but he is getting the results. Of course I hope all you haterz didn't celebrate the title last season... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jan 17 2012, 05:18 PM) *
I also read we are the third highest scoring Milan side since Silvio took over. The other two were 92/93 Capello and 2003/4 Ancelotti IIRC - and look at the players they had at their disposal!!!!!!

Like him or not but he is getting the results. Of course I hope all you haterz didn't celebrate the title last season... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The title was 90% down to the team and mostly in the first half of the season down to some Ibra heroics when Allegri's only tactic seemed to be centered around punting the ball at Ibra from defence.

I celebrate the title because I'm a Milan fan, not an Allegri fan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 17 2012, 08:47 PM) *
Take it how you want it, but in my opinion he's also had the weakest overall squad of the 4 as well.

And the weakest overall Serie A as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Not his fault I know, but the level of competition in the Italian league is undoubtedly the weakest I have seen since I started watching. I also believe, had this Juventus side turned up last season, we'd have had a hard time finishing first. No dirt intended on Allegri though, to be fair to him.

I am pretty neutral when it comes to the guy, he's not a bad coach, not the greatest thing since sliced bread either. There are a lot of things he need to fix, a whole lot he has to learn. And for his sake I hope he does. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And then there is also the issue of "small club-mentality", which I believe is linked to the fact that smaller clubs, mid-table teams rarely do have an abundance of creative players - most float up to bigger teams and country champions.

That should somewhat explain his love for strong muscles and running legs than creative brains.
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:45 PM
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I think for now this Allegri talk is pointless, as losing to Inter is not the end of the world but a small blip (although it should not have happened given how Inter played).

That being said, I feel that his time for reckoning will be against Arsenal. If we go out in the last 16 again this season, than I wouldn't hold my breath in regards to him being our coach next season, title or no title
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post Jan 17 2012, 06:04 PM
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(moved to Allegri thread)

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That being said, I feel that his time for reckoning will be against Arsenal. If we go out in the last 16 again this season, than I wouldn't hold my breath in regards to him being our coach next season, title or no title

I don't know han. I used to think so but no more after they renewed his contract.

I'm pro-Max but I cetainly wouldn't mind a world class coach if the opportunity arrived.
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post Jan 17 2012, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 17 2012, 06:53 PM) *
I don't know han. I used to think so but no more after they renewed his contract.

I'm pro-Max but I cetainly wouldn't mind a world class coach if the opportunity arrived.

A contract means little in the end. It's a security net more than anything else as you can never know what circumstances you'll face come June. That being said, I feel that the Arsenal game is a huge test for Max, and should he fail it I can easily see him being let go come the end of the season
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post Jan 17 2012, 07:09 PM
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You really think that? it's Arsenal, how many people out there expect us to come out of that tie victorious. it's very probable that we'll be knocked out, but there's not as much chance that Max will lose his job as a consequence.

The only way I can see him being let go is if we finish outside the top 3, or in other words, if we completely **** up our season.

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post Jan 17 2012, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 17 2012, 07:09 PM) *
You really think that? it's Arsenal, how many people out there expect us to come out of that tie victorious. it's very probable that we'll be knocked out, but there's not as much chance that Max will lose his job as a consequence.

The only way I can see him being let go is if we finish outside the top 3, or in other words, if we completely **** up our season.

Arsenal were one of the "do-able" draws we could have gotten, plus they're not having a stellar season themselves either. Not winning that one after going out of this competition at the last 16 for 4 seasons running. It's a disgrace, and not only that, it's a huge financial set-back for the club who just need that extra money that could be coming in from going further in that competition.

We'll see, imo, Silvio is not a fan of his, it's more Galliani that's an admirer of Allegri. For now Silvio is trusting in Galliani's faith in Allegri, but should he fail again, I can see Silvio taking this into his own hands. Especially because he considers the CL as the most important competition for the club
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post Jan 17 2012, 08:19 PM
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I agree with the last part. As much as I don't like it.
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post Jan 18 2012, 05:03 PM
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I never posted my thoughts on this match. There was a very good reason for this.

There was so much, yet so little to say about the performance.

I remain rather peeved about it all, and ask once again if certain people around here still stubbornly discount Inter from the title race.
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post Jan 18 2012, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 17 2012, 06:47 PM) *
What I said? Yeah.



Sacchi: 54.08% wins.
Capello: 53.00% wins.
Ancelotti: 56.67% wins.

Allegri: 56.16% wins.

A win in his next game takes him to 56.75%, so he'd actually have a better win % than any of the previously mentioned. Take it how you want it, but in my opinion he's also had the weakest overall squad of the 4 as well.


Where did those stats come from ?
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post Jan 18 2012, 05:34 PM
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I guess wikipedia, no?
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post Jan 18 2012, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 18 2012, 05:03 PM) *
I never posted my thoughts on this match. There was a very good reason for this.

There was so much, yet so little to say about the performance.

I remain rather peeved about it all, and ask once again if certain people around here still stubbornly discount Inter from the title race.

As you probably know, I've always said that I felt Inter were the more serious contenders to Juve. That being said, I still feel this is ours to lose and I personally don't see Inter winning the title.

However, I feel that Juve and Inter will both put up a great fight, but this Scudetto is ours to lose imo. Not ending up as champions would still be a huge disappointment, as I feel that our closest contenders are just not that good, while we have a great team (all be it getting hacked down by injuries every day, but that's mostly the fault of our incompetent medical staff)
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