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post Dec 19 2011, 07:31 PM
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You give me the expression you value a result higher than the health of a person. I can't agree with that.

We aren't debating that so how do you know my feelings on it? If you must know, I think if a player injuries someone and it is deemed reckless or intentional, their ban should match the length of the injury (for a minimum of 3 games). So a minor injury is likely a 3 game ban. If you end someones career? Say goodbye to football, you don't deserve to be playing.

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And BTW, Kurt, when is a ban a long ban to you?

4/5 games+

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post Dec 19 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 19 2011, 08:31 PM) *
We aren't debating that so how do you know my feelings on it?


I don't. I said I got that impression. So why you respond with that sentence? I thought because you said about a bad tackle with 3 games ban is alright, but for diving a long ban, which is longer than 3. I didn't know you judge a tackle based on what actually happened until now.

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Personally I feel all FAs should have their own medical teams to see how bad a players injury is. If it was a red card that caused the injury, then in my opinion the player should be suspended for as long as the injury is. If you end someones career with a stupid tackle, say goodbye to football. I do not value a result over health, but seeing as this was a thread about diving, and not injuries, I never stated my opinion on the matter.


After this post I understand that now better. I don't agree with how long someone is out, that long you need to be banned. It's just a matter of (bad) luck if something happens and if it's really bad. When one makes a tackle that can cause something really bad, it need to be punished hard, whether the player got lucky or not. Else one gets (close to) nothing and the other is banned for a long time, while they actually did exact the same. I can't agree with that.

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post Dec 19 2011, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 06:38 PM) *
After this post I understand that now better. I don't agree with how long someone is out, that long you need to be banned. It's just a matter of (bad) luck if something happens and if it's really bad. When one makes a tackle that can cause something really bad, it need to be punished hard, whether the player got lucky or not. Else one gets (close to) nothing and the other is banned for a long time, while they actually did exact the same. I can't agree with that.

You were too quick for me.

I did delete and re-write this section of my post to make it clearer. Like you said, some long term injuries are more unlucky than fully the blame of the person making the foul. In my edit I do say if its deemed reckless or intentional - meaning a complete disregard for the 'victims' health, then the ban should match the injury. I thin it is unfair if you intentionally go in 2-footed on someone, ending their career, that you get to earn millions doing what you want in 4 games time. It' just not right.
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