[kurtsimonw]

Clichy is a liability, it's why they've sold him there, it's why they sold Adebayor there. A reason Cesc and Nasri won't end up playing for them, they can actually play.

SSN saying Villa have bid £7m for Scott Parker. Would be a terrible signing, far worse than what we have. Need to be spending our money elsewhere.

[dst]

Clichy is a liability, it's why they've sold him there, it's why they sold Adebayor there. A reason Cesc and Nasri won't end up playing for them, they can actually play.

I agree but this has nothing to do with what I'm saying... all I'm saying is that 7m when you're dealing with Manchester is too little, regardless of the player's quality. If Adebayor was sold for more than 20m and he's in the same class with Clichy then that just shows this one was a terrible deal.

[kurtsimonw]

I agree but this has nothing to do with what I'm saying... all I'm saying is that 7m when you're dealing with Manchester is too little, regardless of the player's quality. If Adebayor was sold for more than 20m and he's in the same class with Clichy then that just shows this one was a terrible deal.

Strikers will always cost more, it's the way transfers have always been. Both went to City for twice what they're worth, in my opinion. Adebayor isn't quite as bad at his job as Clichy either. He's a striker that can score goals, even if he doesn't play well. Clichy is a defender that can't defend.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jul 16 2011, 05:49 AM

[Milan Are Brilli...]

Both of these things would probably see us relegated with our current team.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well we all know my feelings on that show pony. The 'future of the England team' I was told over a decade ago... The only thing he's ever been good at was getting in Soccer AM's showboat section.

Parker for that fee wouldn't be that bad, but surely you need wingers now, not central mids.

[kurtsimonw]

Parker for that fee wouldn't be that bad, but surely you need wingers now, not central mids.

£7m for an ageing CM who would/should be our 3rd/4th choice when we have other needs would be a massive mistake. I'd rather take Der Hammer back on a free and spend the money on players we actually need.

[Milan Are Brilli...]

I think he's somewhat better, but I know your opinion on him so I won't dwell on that. It would be like you trying to prove to me Joe Cole is still world-class.

Think of it this way, at least you can't waste money on Charlie Adam now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Corinthians to bid £40m for Tevez apparently. I really hope City accept it. I want Tevez to F off to South America where I won't have to hear his name again. The man sums up everything that is wrong in football, I hate him as much as the worst small heath players.

Hopefully if City refuse he just retires.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

doesn't Delfounesco play wing or is he a CF? I've had him in my SM team for ever, waiting for him to finally burst on the the scene.

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[il_diavolo_mtl]

Aston Villa will be relegated if they sell Stewart Downing - Mark Walters
Villans legend warns his former club that if they sell the England midfielder, they could be embroiled in a battle against relegation, given that Ashley Young has already left

Villa have rejected a bid of £15 (€17) million from Liverpool for the England international, but are expected to accept if the Reds raise their offer closer to £20 (€22.5) million.

However, Walters believes that new Villa manager Alex McLeish should think of building a team rather than the money he will receive from the sale of Downing.

He told The Daily Star Sunday: “Every player has their price and £20m is a great price for Stewart Downing.

“But considering Villa have no-one to replace him, it would leave them a big problem in terms of who is left to create the chances.

“They have great youngsters in the youth and reserves teams but they are up and coming and not the calibre of Stewart Downing.

“If Villa want to do anything this season they must at least replace him first before they even consider selling him.

“To say that selling Downing would leave them weak would be a massive understatement. It would be suicidal.

“Selling him just after Ashley Young would mean Villa should expect another relegation fight as we don’t have the type of players to replace them.”

Walters began his career at Villa Park and spent six seasons there before moving to Rangers, and he has become disillusioned with their policy of selling their best players.

He said: “When I joined Villa in 1981 they were going round signing some of the best players around – but that changed while I was there.

“They have now sold their best player in each of the last three seasons with Gareth Barry, James Milner and Ashley Young all going.

“If I was Darren Bent I would be very concerned. When he arrived, he was supposed to be the missing link.

“But now Bent is here they are losing the players who created most of his goal chances.

“The talk is that Charles N’Zogbia will be brought in but, if I was him, I wouldn’t go to Villa.

“Why would an ambitious player want to go to a club that is not in Europe and selling its best players?”

Just for you, kurt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[dst]

Strikers will always cost more, it's the way transfers have always been. Both went to City for twice what they're worth, in my opinion. Adebayor isn't quite as bad at his job as Clichy either. He's a striker that can score goals, even if he doesn't play well. Clichy is a defender that can't defend.

Yeah it's pretty much a fact that strikers will always cost more, I disagree with everything else though.

[kurtsimonw]

doesn't Delfounesco play wing or is he a CF? I've had him in my SM team for ever, waiting for him to finally burst on the the scene.

He's a CF but has played on the wing from time-to-time.

As for Walters comments, one thing I agree with is that Bent must be pissed. He made a big more to a club where he had players to create things for him and it worked well, now those players have gone. But then teams who sell their best players don't always get relegated. Arsenal have been doing the same now for a while. To be honest, we've been doing the same for a long time, but fortunately we just sign young, coach well, and sell on for a big profit. To think we signed Barry, Milner, Downing and Young for a total £30m and got in around £80m in mad really.

One thing I can't agree with is him saying players won't want to be here. I feel the opposite. Why have Wigan and Portsmouth been able to sign players above their level recently? Because they're happy to be a stepping stone. They sign young, hungry players and basically tell them they won't stop them when they want to leave to a bigger club and it makes them appealing. Players know they can go it, make a name for themself and move on and the club won't kick up a fuss when they leave.

If we bring in Zog for less money than we sold Downing for, good business overall.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

He's a CF but has played on the wing from time-to-time.

Do you think his stock going to raise over the upcoming season?

[kurtsimonw]

Do you think his stock going to raise over the upcoming season?

Depends if he's given the chances or not. He's a better player than Agbonlahor, Gabby was just fortunate go be given the time.

[Danny]

So I found myself entering a fantasy football league. I wasn't sure who I wanted as strikers. So, I have put my faith in your manlove of Bent, Kurt, and chose him. I wouldn't have considered him without your passionate defence of his abilities.

So if he ruins my fantasy team, I blame you completely.

In other news, Cuellar has been linked with Espanyol in the last day or two. Apparently the contract Houllier offered him was withdrawn by Eck, hence he's pretty much free to leave which is why our bid has been confirmed as accepted.

It's all down to the player - where he wants to go. And, in the case of Rangers, whether he'll take a pay cut.

[kurtsimonw]

So if he ruins my fantasy team, I blame you completely.

Nothing to worry about then.

In other news, Cuellar has been linked with Espanyol in the last day or two. Apparently the contract Houllier offered him was withdrawn by Eck, hence he's pretty much free to leave which is why our bid has been confirmed as accepted.

It's all down to the player - where he wants to go. And, in the case of Rangers, whether he'll take a pay cut.

McLeish isn't doing his reputation any favours so far it seems. Our opening home game atmosphere is going to be horrible.