[Bluesummers]

Yes I did. But don't patronize me. I know how to read. It's just some around here didn't bother looking at it. There are basic rules of etiquette and I for the most have been civil, though a bit blunt and very direct, in my exchanges. I haven't insulted anyone, nor do I want to.

well let me tell you how it works pal since i've been here alot longer than you have. You said you joined this forum because you didn't like all the negativity and pessemistic views the other forums had? Well this one has its share too you just haven't met all the people yet. wait till we get further into the season you will see all the negativity, well that is if your not banned right away haha.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Aug 28 2008, 06:26 AM

[Giancarlo]

well let me tell you how it works pal since i've been here alot longer than you have. You said you joined this forum because you didn't like all the negativity and pessemistic views the other forums had? Well this one has its share too you just haven't met all the people yet. wait till we get further into the season you will see all the negativity, well that is if your not banned right away haha.

I think this forum is a hell lot more positive and I've gone through the archives. I think it's so-so... I think there are some who are more positive than others. But on the other forums I've been to all I read about is people nagging and b*tching about players they wanted. I swear if some of these people even came close to running a business, they'd be filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy in like four months.

I don't quite see so much nagging on this forum. So while some may be negative about the season, I'll take that over the never ending constant flow of crying about how Milan didn't buy Quaresma or Didier Drogba...

This post has been edited by Giancarlo: Aug 28 2008, 06:29 AM

[Bluesummers]

I think this forum is a hell lot more positive and I've gone through the archives. I think it's so-so... I think there are some who are more positive than others. But on the other forums I've been to all I read about is people nagging and b*tching about players they wanted. I swear if some of these people even came close to running a business, they'd be filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy in like four months.

True i agree but you can't just be hot headed and start a fight with whoever you think is insulting the management. We believe it or not do have part time fans and especially since ronaldinho joined you will see people who are just band wagon jumpers.


I am usually very negative but so far it hasn't been like so. Me portikins, kurt, han, zd, habitant etc are very very negative sometimes and things get heated up here so just try and take it easy and when you say to someone im tired of you, then we ask why are you here? You have to respect everyone around here regardless if their opinion is complete bullshitt and they just look like people who are on here to abuse. 70% is negative on this forum and you just have to get used to it. If your gonna fight with every single person who says something against your oppinion and grind to the core trying to prove them wrong, then i just suggest you just leave now because you will find it difficult here. I"m not as harsh as others and you will see that later on. I"m just giving you a pre-warning, take it as you will.




This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Aug 28 2008, 06:34 AM

[drucurl]

I think he needs to regain skills and tactics... pace is secondary as Italian football is tactical, not pace based. He won't have to move all that much in Italian football.

I don't know why you keep making these sweeping statements and expect people to automatically agree. Pace is not a requirement in any league period. Zidane and Riquelme are EXTREMELY slow and did very well in La Liga. Shearer and Bergkamp are very slow and have worked miracles in the Premiership.

Pace is however an asset....in ANY league..And the tricky thing about pacy players is that only the really special ones can deal with losing it....There are some players that are extremely pace dependant. When that goes, their career at the highest level goes too. Perhaps the most fitting example is Vieri.....Sure he was strong as an ox and could hold off an army...but Vieri was also surprisingly fast for a man his size. His drop in form interestingly coincided whit his natural loss of pace due to aging.....a phenomena that you seem to deny exists (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

$heva was KNOWN for his pace or speed. I fear that his decline in speed bears a strong correlation to his decline as a player as well. This is why I hope he can regain some. When Ronaldo lost most of his explosiveness he modified his game and introduced new aspects such as long range shooting and enhancing his predatory skills to still be able to compete at the highest level. $heva's inability to adapt to the Chel$ki game implies to me that he's not the type of player that can just change his game to suit his circumstances.

Keep in mind that despite his admirable goal scoring exploits, $heva isn't the classical finisher in the way that RVN, Trez or Pippo are....He was actually very wasteful..not like Gila...of course but he missed many sitters as well. Hence we're in a bit of a dilema as to how and where exactly to use him. My guess is as a classic #9 even though he isn't the most clinical of strikers....he couldn't be as bad as Gila and he should be at least a notch over Borriello......He may not yet have the confidence to play support striker to Pato/Borriello because his ability to take on his man seems very much diminished....the lack of pace doesn't help either.....then even in the event that he does well in this position, Pato's finishing skills need work...Borriello is a wildcard...but then again chances are that he mightn't be starting anyway....although stranger things have happened under Ancelotti (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Giancarlo]

True i agree but you can't just be hot headed and start a fight with whoever you think is insulting the management. We believe it or not do have part time fans and especially since ronaldinho joined you will see people who are just band wagon jumpers.

I'm not trying to be hot headed. I just don't like certain things people say, but I won't get angry about it. While it may seem like I am, it's not my intention. If you're a Milan fan, that's all that matters in the end. I'm no bandwagon jumper, I'm a full time Milan fan.

You have to respect everyone around here regardless if their opinion is complete bullshitt and they just look like people who are on here to abuse. 70% is negative on this forum and you just have to get used to it. If your gonna fight with every single person who says something against your oppinion and grind to the core trying to prove them wrong, then i just suggest you just leave now because you will find it difficult here. I"m not as harsh as others and you will see that later on. I"m just giving you a pre-warning, take it as you will.

I think this forum is a lot more positive than the one I was on. Literally that was 100% negative... I'm not fighting with everyone on here. I like to engage in debate on what should be done in the future. This isn't about fighting... no need for any warning. I've taken plenty of open debate classes before to know to keep my cool.

[Bluesummers]

good i hope so but im telling you right now while theres mods like tennie who are relaxed and wish to settle there are also mods like max who will go to the point without hesitation if you get what i mean.

[drucurl]

well let me tell you how it works pal since i've been here alot longer than you have. You said you joined this forum because you didn't like all the negativity and pessemistic views the other forums had? Well this one has its share too you just haven't met all the people yet. wait till we get further into the season you will see all the negativity, well that is if your not banned right away haha.

he doesn't like/respect ANY view that differs from his own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dramaqueensmil.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/babysmiley1f.gif) . He takes it personal and views it as insulting.....THAT'S why he's sooo much fun!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocentsmily.gif)

[Giancarlo]

he doesn't like/respect ANY view that differs from his own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dramaqueensmil.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/babysmiley1f.gif) . He takes it personal and views it as insulting.....THAT'S why he's sooo much fun!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocentsmily.gif)

Actually that's more descriptive of yourself. If someone doesn't like Crapesma you get all angry and then snap... like you have a love affair with him and Sobis... you're the one who takes everything I say personally... and then you have these outbursts... where you just go nuts.

This post has been edited by Giancarlo: Aug 28 2008, 06:55 AM

[milano84]

I took what I said from the OFFICIAL market website by Lega-Calcio. So what you said was not factual. IF you have a problem with what they said, I'm sure you can email them or contact them. you made a suggestion it was political.

Shevchenko's transfer was a loan + with possible buy later... or they may loan him to us again, until his contract runs out at chelsea (like Crespo was done with inter).

Are you saying my source is lying?

no i'm simply saying i read that it wasnt disclosed, and i quoted my source so you can take a chill pill (read:go across the border, buy some xanax, vicodin, whatever u need to calm down). I never said transfer wasp olitical i simply said reason dollars werent disclosed was political... and heres my elaboration:

-its odd to not disclose price these days, u rarely see it, although if it was a loan it was a loan. I'm surprised no other site picked it up, but thats doesnt make it less factual.

-i was simply alluding to the point berlu's in a difficult position, money needs ot be spent on milan to win, like all big clubs, but being a civil servant he's in an awkward position. ITs grounds for his political opponents to attack him "blah we're struggling and he's buying his football fetish" so not disclosing info would protect him for that, and its the right move to do as spending his private moneyo n football club he runs shouldnt have any effect on country, but we all know how politics spins ****.

-i guess everything i wrote is irrelevant since we took him for a free loan. I wish him luck, i hope to see him pato and dinho all score sunday.

[Giancarlo]

no i'm simply saying i read that it wasnt disclosed, and i quoted my source so you can take a chill pill (read:go across the border, buy some xanax, vicodin, whatever u need to calm down). I never said transfer wasp olitical i simply said reason dollars werent disclosed was political... and heres my elaboration:

http://www.lega-calcio.it/ita/trasferimenti08090.shtml

This is where all the official transfers are posted. Certain information cannot be hidden. This was a loan deal, I have a feeling he'll be loaned out an additional year until his contract expires.

I don't use drugs.

-i was simply alluding to the point berlu's in a difficult position, money needs ot be spent on milan to win, like all big clubs, but being a civil servant he's in an awkward position. ITs grounds for his political opponents to attack him "blah we're struggling and he's buying his football fetish" so not disclosing info would protect him for that, and its the right move to do as spending his private moneyo n football club he runs shouldnt have any effect on country, but we all know how politics spins ****.

We can't spent huge amounts of money... and besides that didn't Berlusconi buy another big mansion recently? He is one of the most effective leaders and he has virtually unlimited power considering the majority he holds in the Italian parliament.

[drucurl]

I don't use drugs.

and I'm Rafael Sobis (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

We can't spent huge amounts of money... and besides that didn't Berlusconi buy another big mansion recently? He is one of the most effective leaders and he has virtually unlimited power considering the majority he holds in the Italian parliament.

No wonder he loves $heva so much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Giancarlo]

and I'm Rafael Sobis (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You're insinuating I use drugs? Care to prove that?

If not, don't make the claim.

[Zed.D]

Guys!! enough is enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Tennie's asked you to stop it like a thousand times. if you two don't respect each other at least respect other members.

[Giancarlo]

Guys!! enough is enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Tennie's asked you to stop it like a thousand times. if you two don't respect each other at least respect other members.

Yeah, it's just certain things like that are out of line. I mean suggesting another member uses drugs... it's inappropriate...

I want to get back to the topic at hand.

[drucurl]

Yeah, it's just certain things like that are out of line. I mean suggesting another member uses drugs... it's inappropriate...

I want to get back to the topic at hand.

It was a joke sheeeeeesh . for what it's worth I'm sorry