[amancik]

How long Ibra's gonna be out again? I didn't see the second yellow card, I certainly saw the red. In any case, does this ban right off from his recent return of suspension affect the length of it?

[Zed.D]

Reminds me of Sheva's love affair with Lazio. Oh the memories

As for Ibra, I think he did good, he linked up with Pato, made and assist, was hugely involved in the second goal. First yellow was soft and he tried to pull out of the trip but he had already commted himself. Second yellow I still don't understand, he said something to the lines-man? so what??!! FFS the Viola players wanted to tear the ref's head off for mos of the game and were trying to take someone's leg off at one point with the challenges. Allegri's mistake was not subbing out Ibra, he hadn't played in a month FFS!! He should have tried to play him the entire 90, after the 60th minutes mark Ibra faded out completely, and started losing the ball easily and getting frustrated. Allegri should have sen this, subbed him out and treated him as a player who needs to get back match fitness.

Personally I thought Ibra's attitude improved a ot, he wasn' yelling and acting like a petulant kid for his own short comings, he clapped at Pato when he tried to pass to him, Pato and him passed it to each other and tried to link up. Before they wouldn't even acknowledge that they were even on the same pitch

Oh for everyone saying it was a straight red, it wasn't, Ibra had gotten a yellow a few minutes before for a slight trip

Ibra made an assist? are you sure? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) first one was by Pato. second one by the Boat.

As for his red, if he insulted the ref or his assistant, that's a straight red I think. I didn't see him being shown a yellow and then a red either... did you? I think he swear at the ref's decision and the assistant told the ref about it.

As for his attitude, well, he's gotten better but even that is not good enough it seems!

As for his performance, he was good in the beginning but as the game went on he got worse and worse. I can't count how many times he lost the ball. and the unnecessary red he got really sums up his night. I'd give him a 1 out of 4.

[Jack Bauer]

Oh for everyone saying it was a straight red, it wasn't, Ibra had gotten a yellow a few minutes before for a slight trip

It was a yellow first for the tackle and after few minutes a straight red for insulting the linesman.

He should be out for two games. One for the 4th yellow and one for the red.

[han2503]

How long Ibra's gonna be out again? I didn't see the second yellow card, I certainly saw the red. In any case, does this ban right off from his recent return of suspension affect the length of it?

I don't think the camera caught it, the red took everyone by surprise because first thing you saw Ibra losing the ball and it going to a throw then he was starting to walk away, next thing you know there are shouts and the camera is on Allegri, and then quickly back to Ibra and the ref and the red being show.

It certainly wasn't a straight red. He either shouted at the lines-man or I don't know what, still I think it's an unfair call considering how the Fiorentina players acted throughout the game. Maybe he was trying to make up for not calling the penalty, which imo was a spot on decision as that was never a penalty, but considering the meal Fiorentina made out of it, the ref must have lost his cool and tried to balance the scores again

[han2503]

It was a yellow first for the tackle and after few minutes a straight red for insulting the linesman.

He should be out for two games. One for the 4th yellow and one for the red.

It doesn't work like that, what 4th yellow? Ibra slate was wiped clean after the red against Bari. While it wasn't a straight red, just because the camera only caught the red being shown, does not mean that it was a straight red. When do we actually see straight reds being given for players mouthing off??

[Jack Bauer]

It certainly wasn't a straight red. He either shouted at the lines-man or I don't know what, still I think it's an unfair call considering how the Fiorentina players acted throughout the game. Maybe he was trying to make up for not calling the penalty, which imo was a spot on decision as that was never a penalty, but considering the meal Fiorentina made out of it, the ref must have lost his cool and tried to balance the scores again

http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/fio-mil.html

Ibrahimovic shot himself and Milan in the foot, as he insulted the linesman and was shown a straight red card.

[Ry4n]

I know we won. it's just that this game could've ended better. way better. different scoreline and Ibra not having to serve another 2-game suspension. FWIW, I AM pro-Max. but doesn't mean I close my eyes on his faults. tonight he did rather poorly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

true true +1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[han2503]

Ibra made an assist? are you sure? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) first one was by Pato. second one by the Boat.

As for his red, if he insulted the ref or his assistant, that's a straight red I think. I didn't see him being shown a yellow and then a red either... did you? I think he swear at the ref's decision and the assistant told the ref about it.

As for his attitude, well, he's gotten better but even that is not good enough it seems!

As for his performance, he was good in the beginning but as the game went on he got worse and worse. I can't count how many times he lost the ball. and the unnecessary red he got really sums up his night. I'd give him a 1 out of 4.

Was that Pato?? Really thought it was Ibra who headed it down, my bad!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

I never saw a straight red being given for players insulting the ref. A yellow yes, but a straight red? Come on. If it were in fact a straight red, it's an even more ridiculous decision to cal, can't think what the viola players were saying to the ref when they practically pushed him around after the foul in favour of Seedorf, I'm sure they weren't thanking him. Players cuss out the ref all the time, still don't understand what the deal was.

It can only be expected that his performance wanes down after a certain amount of time when he hasn't played a match in some time. Again, it was Allegri's mistake for allowing him to stay on for so long. Allegri should grow some b@lls and sub out Ibra when he sees it is neccassary

[han2503]

http://www.football-italia.net/sa1011/fio-mil.html

How does that warrant a straight red. Still cannot understand this BS. We see players cuss out the ref all the time, he probably got a million of those during this very game and let them roll off his back. Still say he was trying to balance it out for the not calling the non penalty.

[Zed.D]

Han, it depends on what he said. the fact that it said it quietly and didn't shout it or anything makes me slightly confident that he said something really insulting. a strong one. that's a straight red.

[CrazyMilanFan]

How does that warrant a straight red. Still cannot understand this BS. We see players cuss out the ref all the time, he probably got a million of those during this very game and let them roll off his back. Still say he was trying to balance it out for the not calling the non penalty.

well need to ask the ref team what he said. But yea second yellow would have been more than enough

[Zed.D]

Was that Pato?? Really thought it was Ibra who headed it down, my bad!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

I know.. I mean Pato assisting? that doesn't happen very often!

[Fillipo Simone]

Considering Mihajlovic made those stupid faces and shouted all the time, considering almost every Viola player insulted the referee...I don't get why Ibra got the red. Was the referee getting under pressure and decided to cut it off with that action. Seems so!

But Ibra's attitude is still wrong. Allegri has to do something. This is getting out of hand.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Considering Mihajlovic made those stupid faces and shouted all the time, considering almost every Viola player insulted the referee...I don't get why Ibra got the red. Was the referee getting under pressure and decided to cut it off with that action. Seems so!

But Ibra's attitude is still wrong. Allegri has to do something. This is getting out of hand.

i think gallaini is handeling that.

[amancik]

According to Max, Ibra was muttering to himself. Still, the red card was harsh.