[acid911]

Inter fans may still like him a bit if he wins them a title in his first year. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Even if it is just a Coppa. The sad thing is that I dislike Palermo winning something (with their crazy maniac of an owner) almost as much as our blue and black rivals. So this year's Italian Cup sure is a sucker for me!

[William405]

The Pirlo in his prime I really loved. Those were the days... Pirlo and Kaká...

Ha! Gattuso's chants towards Leonardo... I'd say they were well-deserved. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) That's what you get for joining our number one rival. Now Milan fans hate him, and also Inter fans do after also sucking there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Most hated person in city Milano? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I don't agree at all.

What he said was disrespectful,and never should be regarded as something positive...just see the way cesare maldini talked about the action,now that guy is a classy person.

This post has been edited by William405: May 12 2011, 07:20 PM

[X-Offender]

I was all for keeping Ambrosini and Pirlo a few months back, and this is still my viewpoint. Nesta is a definite resigning. Gattuso next, that is if he does not take up the Russian offer. And finally Seedorf, if he accepts a bench spot, but IMO it's best if we mutually parted ways.

Gattuso's contract expires in 2012, so no need to renew it. I really hope he takes up the Russian offer though. I think he's the weakest link of our starting line-up, and also at least two of the senators must leave this summer i.e. Pirlo and Gattuso. If you look at our midfield, 4 of 7 "starters" are over 33. Not cool.

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, it's a big problem. But I'm not sure how much Ambro can give the team? It seems to me he's okay with being a sub, and that makes him a better choice the Rino. But compared to speed, strength and considering his injury proneness..Rino is more useful to us, as much as it is hard for me to admit being a big Ambrosini fan.

[X-Offender]

Sorry, I must disagree. For me, Ambrosini >>>>> Gattuso. Honestly, I think Gattuso is one of our most useless players. I cringe every time I watch him play. Please, go to Russia!!!

[Dracoris]

Sorry, I must disagree. For me, Ambrosini >>>>> Gattuso. Honestly, I think Gattuso is one of our most useless players. I cringe every time I watch him play. Please, go to Russia!!!

+1

[Jack Sparrow]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm not even commenting on the Pirlo rants. LOL!

He is 31..at least 2 more years at the top level. The reason for his 'lack of performance' is quite obvious. But of course he's 'old'...so f@ck it. I mean we understand Pato can't play on the wing...but no talks of letting him go. And it's common sense.

Pirlo is no DM who can shield the back four...so he must leave?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

And neither club nor player has come out saying they have signed. If he had, I think they'd have made the announcement by now...like we did about Mexes and Taiwo.

He's not worth 6 for sure. But if they can't find a common ground...and he doesn't want to play for some club outside Italy (rarely do ITalians do that and be successful)...I'm glad he's actually going to Juve..and not Inter (who we know would take him back!). He's still class enough to compete in the top tiers..and not go back to Brescia. And he's actually going with a team not competing in the CL. When he could go to Roma or Inter.

As for the media reports...his agent is doing his job..making sure Pirlo has a place to play next season in case Milan and Andy P doesn't find an agreement.

[CHU-LIP]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm not even commenting on the Pirlo rants. LOL!

He is 31..at least 2 more years at the top level. The reason for his 'lack of performance' is quite obvious. But of course he's 'old'...so f@ck it. I mean we understand Pato can't play on the wing...but no talks of letting him go. And it's common sense.

Yes, the reason is obvious: he has declined a lot.

And what rants?

[kurtsimonw]

Pirlo has been injured alot in his defense. Yes that's a bad thing in itself, but when you're injured so often it's incredibly difficult to maintain any kind of fitness. I'd keep Pirlo around for a little while.

[Jack Sparrow]

Yes, the reason is obvious: he has declined a lot.

And what rants?

Yes....then so has every player in this team who's been played out of position. Pato, Cassano, Boateng, Silva(when he played DM) etc.

[Zed.D]

He is 31..at least 2 more years at the top level. The reason for his 'lack of performance' is quite obvious. But of course he's 'old'...so f@ck it. I mean we understand Pato can't play on the wing...but no talks of letting him go. And it's common sense.

Very lame, Jack. bringing Pato into the argument when someone badmouths one of the veterans.. and don't talk about common sense. everyone on our team has at least one flaw (maybe except Silva) but no, it always has to be Pato when it comes to using this "common sense" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Zed.D: May 13 2011, 08:41 AM

[acid911]

I think this stems from the fact that Pato is the most precious commodity in the team. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Just like a few years back, Kaka was. Silva currently is the second most precious one, IMO. And that's partly to do with their young age, Milan can probably get at least 100 million for both this year or the next.

Of course, people are gonna talk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) In reality though Pirlo has won and done everything Pato hasn't. Yet.

[kurtsimonw]

And that's partly to do with their young age, Milan can probably get at least 100 million for both this year or the next.

I'm not sure about that.

[Jack Sparrow]

Very lame, Jack. bringing Pato into the argument when someone badmouths one of the veterans.. and don't talk about common sense. everyone on our team has at least one flaw (maybe except Silva) but no, it always has to be Pato when it comes to using this "common sense" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's only lame if I advocate selling Pato. The same logic that applies to Pato should be applied here is what I'm saying. Nothing else.

[han2503]

And I didn't say he did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And neither will I believe anything unless it is official, and he is holding a new shirt. Only Gattuso has been quoted earlier this season that he almost left last year. But the truth is that this case should have been better handled, with Pirlo agreeing to a paycut and Milan offering him the best they can. Despite playing 10 years in the red and black shirt, the guy still has a couple of more years at least to give!

Problem is acid, the club has not yet negotiated with the players, so saying that Pirlo does not want this and that is BS, and again all paper talk. How can there be disagreements when negotiations with any of the players have not started yet. That is why I find all this sudden Pirlo hate for accepting a deal with Juve if the club does not renew with him disrespectful. I don't begrudge Pirlo having a backup plan. What you guys want him to retire if Milan don't offer him a new deal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) He's too good to go to a mid-table team, he's worthy of the top 3 clubs in Italy, and I don't see him as the type to go abroad either.

What theories, han?

At least acid understands me, and thank you for that, acid. I don't expect most people to agree with me, but it's nice to see someone at least understands me. I get slaughtered here for my feelings and way to look at things, that's not really respectful (a word often mentioned here). Unlike enough of you, I respect and understand you all for thinking different than me. Acid mentioned Kaká and Sheva. What Kaká has done is less worse than Pirlo. I like Kaká more than Pirlo. At least Kaká didn't join a domestic rival (I know, it's not Inter, but it's the 2nd worse choice you can make), and Pirlo wasn't forced out the way Kaká was, at least not as much.

And to those who say it's all paper talk Pirlo is joining Juventus: it really looks like a matter of time for becoming official. Stay in denial as long as you want to, guys.

The ones you're making about how he's not good anymore, when we have barely seen him play this season... Saying he cannot play in this position and that position, when again, we haven't seen enough to make any judgements on the issue.

And sorry if I came off disrespectful towards you but I found your post extremely difficuilt to read and accept, you saying good riddance to a player of Pirlo's quality but wanting keep Ambro makes it even worse. Even Ambro's biggest supporters have admitted that he's not good enough to keep, and not even reliable enough to stay on as a sub. And like I said above, holding a grudge against Pirlo for accepting an offer from Juve is just as ridiculous. The club have not offered any of the players new contracts. what do you expect them to do? Wait around with no plan B already in place? You forget that these men are human with families to think about, if Milan do not renew then they need to make living arrangements, as well as other arrangements for their kids, etc. It's completely unfair of you to condemn him for it imo. When the club is at fault for leaving our veteran player hanging around by a thread. It's unaccpetable imo, and both Seedorf and Ambro have commented about this.

Gattuso's contract expires in 2012, so no need to renew it. I really hope he takes up the Russian offer though. I think he's the weakest link of our starting line-up, and also at least two of the senators must leave this summer i.e. Pirlo and Gattuso. If you look at our midfield, 4 of 7 "starters" are over 33. Not cool.

Seedorf will be 35 that is a problem imo, and keeping him on for another season would be a mistake. What? He had 5 good games max this season? And we should re0-sign him for that? Not a good move imo, Seedorf won't be any better next season and he's too proud to accept being a bit-part player. Pirlo is the oungest of our old gaurd, and the best out of all of them without any shadow of a doubt. He's still a top quality player that has at the least 2 good years in him, whereas the other 3 mids in question are literally on the edge.

Yes, it's a big problem. But I'm not sure how much Ambro can give the team? It seems to me he's okay with being a sub, and that makes him a better choice the Rino. But compared to speed, strength and considering his injury proneness..Rino is more useful to us, as much as it is hard for me to admit being a big Ambrosini fan.

Agreed

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm not even commenting on the Pirlo rants. LOL!

He is 31..at least 2 more years at the top level. The reason for his 'lack of performance' is quite obvious. But of course he's 'old'...so f@ck it. I mean we understand Pato can't play on the wing...but no talks of letting him go. And it's common sense.

Pirlo is no DM who can shield the back four...so he must leave?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

And neither club nor player has come out saying they have signed. If he had, I think they'd have made the announcement by now...like we did about Mexes and Taiwo.

He's not worth 6 for sure. But if they can't find a common ground...and he doesn't want to play for some club outside Italy (rarely do ITalians do that and be successful)...I'm glad he's actually going to Juve..and not Inter (who we know would take him back!). He's still class enough to compete in the top tiers..and not go back to Brescia. And he's actually going with a team not competing in the CL. When he could go to Roma or Inter.

As for the media reports...his agent is doing his job..making sure Pirlo has a place to play next season in case Milan and Andy P doesn't find an agreement.

Agreed

Pirlo has been injured alot in his defense. Yes that's a bad thing in itself, but when you're injured so often it's incredibly difficult to maintain any kind of fitness. I'd keep Pirlo around for a little while.

Agreed