[TriniKing_CE]

Milan vs Lazio - Locker room

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ClwnSWuC80

[han2503]

I'm talking about Van Bommel on behalf of what we've already seen of him at Bayern and Netherlands. The guy is not just your average defensive midfielder. He can organize, make through passes, shoot from the distance. In other words, he's a sort of Pirlo replacement from a technical point of view, though they are miles away in terms of characteristics and skills.



My line-up against Tottenham, saving possible injuries, would be the following:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - T. Silva - Antonini
Flamini - Pirlo - Boateng
Seedorf/Robinho
Pato - Ibrahimovic

I wouldn't play Seedorf. And I think we'll need a 2nd DM in that midfield, our FBs will need help against their wingers imo

As for Van Bommel, sure we've seen it at other teams, but we haven't at Milan, I haven't see one decent pass out of him that could be considered as defense splitting, he doesn't have the distribution technique of Seedorf let alone Pirlo, and that is what we need in that midfield. So imo this would be my midfield and attack for the Genoa game

Van Bommel
Flamini--Seedorf
Cassano
Ibra--pato

[X-Offender]

Van Bommel
Flamini--Seedorf
Cassano
Ibra--pato

Personal opinion, but I would never play Seedorf along with three between Cassano, Pato, Robinho and Ibra.

[han2503]

Personal opinion, but I would never play Seedorf along with three between Cassano, Pato, Robinho and Ibra.

Seedorf's best days in his entire career imo were playing the position I just put him in, in my eyes he was never a trquartista and never will be. Also imo It's not as unbalanced as it looks on Paper. Cassano tends to hang back a lot when we're not in possession, and he's not afraid to get his hands dirty in midfield when we need him to. Van Bommel and Flamini will be more then enough imo.

Imo 1 DM for us is not enough, 3 is overkill, but 2 is just right in terms of how balanced we are

[CHU-LIP]

Seedorf's best days in his entire career imo were playing the position I just put him in, in my eyes he was never a trquartista and never will be. Also imo It's not as unbalanced as it looks on Paper. Cassano tends to hang back a lot when we're not in possession, and he's not afraid to get his hands dirty in midfield when we need him to. Van Bommel and Flamini will be more then enough imo.

Imo 1 DM for us is not enough, 3 is overkill, but 2 is just right in terms of how balanced we are

I agree with the former Seedorf not being a trequarista but nowadays I would play Seedorf only as AM and not at the position where he used to be his best. So I agree with X-Offender. Different times, different Seedorf. Didn't you yourself say that Seedorf played bad when being played as midfielder in our 3 man midfield, while as AM you thought he did well?

[X-Offender]

Agreed. I can only see Seedorf as trequartista nowadays. In fact, he's the only proper trequartista we currently have.

[han2503]

I agree with the former Seedorf not being a trequarista but nowadays I would play Seedorf only as AM and not at the position where he used to be his best. So I agree with X-Offender. Different times, different Seedorf. Didn't you yourself say that Seedorf played bad when being played as midfielder in our 3 man midfield, while as AM you thought he did well?

I said that when he was played in Pirlo's position .ie. made to play in front of the defense.

He played decent in the AM psotion for a total of 3 games. And until we see him playing now in his old position I'm going to stand by my reasoning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Personally I don't really care where Seedorf plays, he's been pretty bad in any position... My biggest issue is with the 3 distructive DMs playing in the midfield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

[mybloodhasblacks...]

personally i dont think seedorf has any place in the team now. boateng plays better in the midfield role and cassano is a better attacking support and can defend better.

i think for the genoa game cassanos style will be very effective. milan will come out fighting and if cassano gets the start i expect us to win well. granted theyre a good team but theve lost more at home than theyve won and allegri is an excellent motivational coach.

by the way im glad to be on milanfan

[X-Offender]

personally i dont think seedorf has any place in the team now. boateng plays better in the midfield role and cassano is a better attacking support and can defend better.

Cassano... defend? OK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Welcome, btw!

[dst]

Cassano once went deep to defend... a couple of games later he was back up front working his magic... not really, he's not so slow... but he does look awfully slow at times.

and... welcome!!

[X-Offender]

Think of Cassano as a replica of the current Ronaldinho. He must play in support of the deep-lying forward as an auxiliary striker. He lacks the mobility and physical attributes which would otherwise allow him to play as an attacking midfielder. That is because attacking midfielders have different roles. They serve as a link between midfield and attack, which requires mobility, speed and stamina. Cassano doesn't tick any of the said boxes. He's just a support striker with a great set of skills and vision.

[acid911]

by the way im glad to be on milanfan

The feeling is mutual, I am sure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Welcome, glad to have you here. Cool(est) user name, by the way!

[Dracoris]

Very cool username

[han2503]

Think of Cassano as a replica of the current Ronaldinho. He must play in support of the deep-lying forward as an auxiliary striker. He lacks the mobility and physical attributes which would otherwise allow him to play as an attacking midfielder. That is because attacking midfielders have different roles. They serve as a link between midfield and attack, which requires mobility, speed and stamina. Cassano doesn't tick any of the said boxes. He's just a support striker with a great set of skills and vision.

Seedorf doesn't tick any of those either if you ask me. He barely moves aside from jogging around aimlessly, not the real movement required for a trequartista that is. Speed and Seedorf in the same sentence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Stamina? He gets tired 15 minutes into it... Imo Cassano has better movement, is faster then Seedorf and can last longer then him as well, plus and most importantly imo he has better vision and can pass in tight spaces as well, which imo are 2 components that are just as important for an AM as the ones you mentioned above

[X-Offender]

Seedorf doesn't tick any of those either if you ask me. He barely moves aside from jogging around aimlessly, not the real movement required for a trequartista that is. Speed and Seedorf in the same sentence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Stamina? He gets tired 15 minutes into it... Imo Cassano has better movement, is faster then Seedorf and can last longer then him as well, plus and most importantly imo he has better vision and can pass in tight spaces as well, which imo are 2 components that are just as important for an AM as the ones you mentioned above

Speed and Seedorf in the same sentence? Duh, I didn't even mention Seedorf. That said, Seedorf is an attacking midfielder by nature. Cassano is not. Even when we play Robinho-Cassano-Ibrahimovic, he plays as second striker and not as trequartista. That should tell you something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)