[han2503]

I disagree. The AM counts ALSO, and a lot. And Seedorf does more than Ronaldinho in our midfield. You just don't notice it.

Did you really watch the Palermo game?? I'm not even talking about Dinho, don't bring him into this. I'm talking about the midfield 3, all Seedorf had to do was to stay close to them so that he was always available for the pass. He didn't really defend or close anyone down, and imo he did the right thing, because an AM shouldn't be trying to close anyone down or track back unless absolutely necassary, he shouldn't be wasting away behind the center circle trying to chase down the ball because the players behind him are not doing their jobs!

Did you ever see Rui Costa or Kaka track back or close anyone down under Carlo? No, simply becayse they had a top midfield behind them who did their jobs right. Now we can have the same thing. No matter who the AM is, you're making this into a Dinho thing when it has nothing to do with him. Be happy for once that we have a system in midfield that actually works, yes we play a 4-3-1-2 but for all intents and purposes it's 3 midfielders and 3 attackers, and what's really important is to have a balance in that midfield, if not it could get easily over run

[CHU-LIP]

Be happy for once that we have a system in midfield that actually works, yes we play a 4-3-1-2 but for all intents and purposes it's 3 midfielders and 3 attackers, and what's really important is to have a balance in that midfield, if not it could get easily over run

I'm happy with that, yes. And I believe that is made possible by benching Ronaldinho. I disagree about it being 3 mids, and 3 attackers. It would have been w/Dinho, but w/Seedorf it's w/4 midfielders.

I'm talking about the midfield 3, all Seedorf had to do was to stay close to them so that he was always available for the pass. He didn't really defend or close anyone down, and imo he did the right thing, because an AM shouldn't be trying to close anyone down or track back unless absolutely necassary, he shouldn't be wasting away behind the center circle trying to chase down the ball because the players behind him are not doing their jobs!

Well, that's one thing of the many Seedorf does better than Dinho which is very important (key).

I'm not saying Seedorf does a lot of those other stuff, but more than Dinho. The way Seedorf plays at AM is better for the team than the way Dinho plays at AM. That's for sure, and it affects the whole team.

[Rossoneri7]

I disagree !

[han2503]

I disagree !

With whom? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

I'm happy with that, yes. And I believe that is made possible by benching Ronaldinho. I disagree about it being 3 mids, and 3 attackers. It would have been w/Dinho, but w/Seedorf it's w/4 midfielders.


Well, that's one thing of the many Seedorf does better than Dinho which is very important (key).

I'm not saying Seedorf does a lot of those other stuff, but more than Dinho. The way Seedorf plays at AM is better for the team than the way Dinho plays at AM. That's for sure, and it affects the whole team.

If Dinho or even Robinho are given such instructions then they'll do the same, it has nothing to do with Seedorf. For example, against Real we were playing a clear 4-3-3 at the start, if Allegri gave Dinho those instructions then he'll follow them. If Allegri tells Seedorf to stay close to the other mids so he's available then he'll do just that. It has nothing to do with the player himself, but with the system a coach deploys

Also, name one occasion where Seedorf actually tried to close Palermo down in midfield. There wasn't and imo for an AM there shouldn't be any of these occasions unless we have our backs to the walls. Wanting Seedorf or Dinho to track back, and do grunt work in the midfield just doesn't make any sense, they should do what Seedorf did, which is to make himself available for the midfield when we have the ball

[Rossoneri7]

With whom? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

With this match

[Fillipo Simone]

Again...talking about Milan...ooops, Ronaldinho that is.
(IMG:http://crazyprofile.com/pictures/images/ronaldinho01.jpg)

[Boban10]

Massimiliano Allegri called up the following 20 Rossoneri for Inter-Milan:

Abbiati, Amelia, Antonini, Bonera, Jankulovski, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Abate, Ambrosini, Boateng, Flamini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Ronaldinho.

Not available: Oddo, Inzaghi, Oduamadi, Pato.
Not called up: Montelongo, Onyewu, Strasser.

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130696

forgot source (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pirlo available, good but no other strikers called up?!?! Not even one incase of a nightmare scenario? Seems a bit short sighted, but fingers crossed for tomorrow.

(I would have threw in Verdi or Beretta if they are fit and available).

This post has been edited by Boban10: Nov 13 2010, 07:56 PM

[CHU-LIP]

Pirlo available, good but no other strikers called up?!?! Not even one incase of a nightmare scenario? Seems a bit short sighted, but fingers crossed for tomorrow.

(I would have threw in Verdi or Beretta if fit).

Allegri rather calls up 9 defenders than a 3rd forward.

[RinoIlCapitano]

Again...talking about Milan...ooops, Ronaldinho that is.
(IMG:http://crazyprofile.com/pictures/images/ronaldinho01.jpg)

x2, the greatest player ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) !!! He will decide the derby and than everyone will be smart again and find something he didnt do well!

[RinoIlCapitano]

ops, i forgot, he will decide the derby AGAIN!

[X-Offender]

I think our attack should be:

------------------------Ibra-----------------
-----------------Dinho------Binho----------

You really should stop seeing this from a fanboy point of view and realize that playing Ronaldinho right now would do no good to our game.

Han, no matter how you see it, Seedorf is more a midfielder than Ronaldinho will ever be. The team will always be more balanced and compact when he's playing than when Dinho's playing. And I don't agree that he doesn't backtrack at all. He knows how to position himself when we're defending.

And I'm really not trying to make this into another anti-Ronaldinho argument, I'm just saying what I rationally believe.

Anyway, it looks like we'll be playing Gattuso--Pirlo--Ambrosini tomorrow. Not good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[han2503]

You really should stop seeing this from a fanboy point of view and realize that playing Ronaldinho right now would do no good to our game.

Han, no matter how you see it, Seedorf is more a midfielder than Ronaldinho will ever be. The team will always be more balanced and compact when he's playing than when Dinho's playing. And I don't agree that he doesn't backtrack at all. He knows how to position himself when we're defending.

And I'm really not trying to make this into another anti-Ronaldinho argument, I'm just saying what I rationally believe.

Anyway, it looks like we'll be playing Gattuso--Pirlo--Ambrosini tomorrow. Not good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Well I don't want to get into it again so let's all agree to disagree

Gazzetta have put up a xmas tree as the propable line-up, with Dinho and Seedorf behind Ibra, which imo is a big problem, Seedorf OR Dinho would be ok, but please not both at the same time.

And if Allegri has any shread of decency left in him and isn't completely stupid, then he won't drop Flamini in favour of Gattuso

[X-Offender]

La Gazzetta are never reliable in predicting line-ups. Always use Sportmediaset.

Link

[han2503]

La Gazzetta are never reliable in predicting line-ups. Always use Sportmediaset.

Link

Well that's pretty much the same thing only they have Robinho instead of Dinho. I'm more p!ssed off at the fact that Allegri will most likely bench Flamini for Rino!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif)