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Serie A - Week 12 - Inter - Milan, Date: 14/11/10 Time: 20:45 CET |
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Nov 15 2010, 11:43 AM
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I don't think you can compare Maldini to ADP. If you must compare him with someone compare him to Raul.
There's no way ADP will come to Milan. He might fancy a stint abroad though. Clubs in the Middle East would love him. He's a hero there. He might even do a Raul and play in the Bundesliga...IF the new Juve contract isn't good enough.
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Nov 15 2010, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 15 2010, 04:27 AM)  (IMG: style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif) We played a fantastic first half, then the second half was completely jeopardized by Abate's red card. Nevertheless, Inter never created any serious opportunity in the whole game because our defense + midfield tonight were on fire. Allegri is finally starting to get the hang of it. He's realized that we can't play 4-3-3 anymore, and that Ronaldinho becomes a liability to the mechanisms of our game, especially against big sides. He has yet a lot to improve, but what matters is that he's found a squaring to our playing style, that is, three defensive midfielders, one trequartista and two forwards. This allows us to play a more solid and compact line-up, with players interchanging positions and helping each other.Well done to all the boys, they made us proud tonight! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Yeah, so it's time to take off the anti-Allegri signature. We're top of the table, beat Inter, so Forza Allegri and Forza Milan! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2010, 11:07 AM)  Imo against the big teams there is no need for 3 DMs Flamini and Ambro will do, play Boateng alongside them and it's the perfect combination. Push Pirlo in the AM position, Seedorf simply cannot play more then 60 minutes anymore.
Against smaller teams Pirlo can slot in the midfield 3 and Seedorf/Dinho play the AM position.
Anything but playing 3 DMs again!! That's just overkill WTF are you talking about??? We beat Inter with 3 so called ''DMs'' and still you are complaining the hell about it??? F~ that! We beat Inter, are top of the table, stop complaining, stop hating, give love lots of love! Forza Milan! Forza our DMs! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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Nov 15 2010, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 15 2010, 12:57 PM)  WTF are you talking about??? We beat Inter with 3 so called ''DMs'' and still you are complaining the hell about it??? F~ that! We beat Inter, are top of the table, stop complaining, stop hating, give love lots of love! Forza Milan! Forza our DMs! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) No we beat Inter just because they were non-existant in the first 30 minutes and Matrix is a bigger idiot then Abate (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Open your eyes!! We won yesterday, yes and I'm extatic, but am I blind to the problems? NO!! Rino-Ambro--Flamini? Nesver going to work against big teams who are in any type of form, we scored that goal because the long ball to Ibra tactic worked like a charm agains Materazzi who pretty much let Ibra do anything he wanted, even looping the ball over his head without so much as trying to fight him for it. Rino was such a big mess on that right side, all of Inter's decent attacking plays came through him, left Abate fighting Eto'o all on his own and should have gotten sent off in the process. Also Seedorf practically had to drop in the DM position in order to get the ball in good positions. How do you see this as something positive?? Once Pirlo came on we actualy started looking a million times better. The 2 DMs offer us all the power, muscle and defensive stability we need, the other DM was just overkill and instead of adding to our game, took from it. I'm positive that had Pirlo started instead of Rino, we could have ran riot against an Inter side who never bothered showing up. You know, I'm just as extatic as you ae, and I've taunted my fair share of people this morning at school (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But I'm also looking at the big picture, where we were far from perfect. Imo had we started with that ball player in the midfield 3 instead of Rino we would have seen the perfect Milan, with perfect balance
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Nov 15 2010, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2010, 06:18 PM)  No we beat Inter just because they were non-existant in the first 30 minutes and Matrix is a bigger idiot then Abate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Open your eyes!! We won yesterday, yes and I'm extatic, but am I blind to the problems? NO!! Rino-Ambro--Flamini? Nesver going to work against big teams who are in any type of form, we scored that goal because the long ball to Ibra tactic worked like a charm agains Materazzi who pretty much let Ibra do anything he wanted, even looping the ball over his head without so much as trying to fight him for it. Rino was such a big mess on that right side, all of Inter's decent attacking plays came through him, left Abate fighting Eto'o all on his own and should have gotten sent off in the process. Also Seedorf practically had to drop in the DM position in order to get the ball in good positions. How do you see this as something positive?? Once Pirlo came on we actualy started looking a million times better. The 2 DMs offer us all the power, muscle and defensive stability we need, the other DM was just overkill and instead of adding to our game, took from it. I'm positive that had Pirlo started instead of Rino, we could have ran riot against an Inter side who never bothered showing up. You know, I'm just as extatic as you ae, and I've taunted my fair share of people this morning at school (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But I'm also looking at the big picture, where we were far from perfect. Imo had we started with that ball player in the midfield 3 instead of Rino we would have seen the perfect Milan, with perfect balance Jesus, one would suppose we lost from your post. I think you never will be pleased, I know you for quite some time and this occured on very rare occasions. What's the point in wanting a perfect Milan? Reading your post one could presume it's some kind of philosophy and not football. All the theory for nothing, we've won the match, we are 6 points from Inter, why don't we enjoy at least for a while? Nothing can instantly turn perfect. Was Inter 2006 perfect? No. Three years later - much closer. I don't belive you're that naive to repeat the bolded part. That's simply too much; Milan did not win just like that. They played bad, but we had our share on the win.
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Nov 15 2010, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE @Filipo: I don't know if we can...but we won't. We are classy like that. And Roma is an old friend of the club. I know, we're alway classy. Just that it would not hurt that once we got unexpected help, like when we send Abbiati to Juve.
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Nov 15 2010, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:07 AM)  How can you say that was one of the working mechanisms of the team? In the first half our chances came from long balls to Ibra who was eating Matrix alive in the air. The midfield was barely functioning when it came to actually passing the ball around. Seedorf was practically trying to pick up the ball from defense and trying to carry it all the way to Ibra and Robs. One of those DMs was surpluss and causing us huge problems, we looked great because Inter were just that terrible in the first 30 minutes. Once Coutinho came on we barely got a look in again. Pirlo came in and he calmed things down a lot, simply because we kept that ball longer then 30 seconds. It looks like we've been watching different games, mate. In the first 30 minutes we had complete dominance of the game, playing a very fluid football with short passes and combinations, something I hadn't seen us do in a very long time. True, we relied a lot on long balls for Ibra, but that doesn't mean our midfield didn't do well. QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:07 AM)  Also Rino's side was our weekest, all Inters play came through that side. Rino is just not a starter anymore and he could have easily been sent off as well. I don't see why we should put ourselves in such a position by playing him in such big games That, I completely agree with. QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:07 AM)  Imo against the big teams there is no need for 3 DMs Flamini and Ambro will do, play Boateng alongside them and it's the perfect combination. Push Pirlo in the AM position, Seedorf simply cannot play more then 60 minutes anymore.
Against smaller teams Pirlo can slot in the midfield 3 and Seedorf/Dinho play the AM position.
Anything but playing 3 DMs again!! That's just overkill This is getting a bit old. Seedorf shouldn't play because he disappears in the 60' etc. Well, Seedorf's played three games in the last week and was by far one of our best players in all of them. I've been bashing Seedorf for years, but even I am rational enough to realize he's in great shape right now and should always be a starter, at least until he starts underperforming again. QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 15 2010, 12:57 PM)  Yeah, so it's time to take off the anti-Allegri signature. We're top of the table, beat Inter, so Forza Allegri and Forza Milan! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Fair enough, I'll start looking for a new signature. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 15 2010, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 15 2010, 06:18 PM)  Jesus, one would suppose we lost from your post. I think you never will be pleased, I know you for quite some time and this occured on very rare occasions.
What's the point in wanting a perfect Milan? Reading your post one could presume it's some kind of philosophy and not football.
All the theory for nothing, we've won the match, we are 6 points from Inter, why don't we enjoy at least for a while? Nothing can instantly turn perfect. Was Inter 2006 perfect? No. Three years later - much closer.
I don't belive you're that naive to repeat the bolded part. That's simply too much; Milan did not win just like that. They played bad, but we had our share on the win. Perfect Milan and perfect football are completely the different things, I want a Milan with balance. Perfect balance can be achieved it's not something that too far out there to contemplate. At the start of the season we started with Dinho, Ibra, Pirlo, Pato and Seedorf, that is imbalanced because it was too attacking with no hard workers. Now we're playing 3 DMs and it's just as imbalanced, you need someone that's going to keep a cool head when on the ball and under pressure in midfield, not someone that will just punt it up for the sake of getting rid of it. I'm very happy that we won, but in the future, playing this system against a team that's playing well will backfire on us. And after all derby or no derby it's 3 points. And getting these 3 points and losing a further 6 of them against Roma and another good counter attacking team won't really help us, sure we have bragging rights but if we can't turn that into a title in the long run then it won't really matter. I'm not saying we should change the entire system, which imo is starting to actually look like somehing coherant, but that midfield cannot play together if we want to go all the way and make it to the final stages of the CL. A really good team can easily stifle all those destroyers out, thus we saw what happened when Inter actually started playing and Seedorf trying to make something happen from our own half. Also the fact that Rino is one of those 3 DMs is also a big problem. Most teams play 1 DM, we play 2 and it works for us, 3 is over doing it. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 15 2010, 06:23 PM)  It looks like we've been watching different games, mate. In the first 30 minutes we had complete dominance of the game, playing a very fluid football with short passes and combinations, something I hadn't seen us do in a very long time. True, we relied a lot on long balls for Ibra, but that doesn't mean our midfield didn't do well. What did I say? That the first 30 minutes we looked great, but imo we only looked as good as Inter made us. Also I don't really see what fluid football you speak of, most of the chances we made came from long balls to Ibra who made Matrix look like a Sunday league ametour. Once Inter actually started playing we struggled to string along more then 5 passes together. That midfield is not made for fluid football, it's made to destroy, not every team is going to have an idiot defender marking Ibra. Like I said above, all in all the system in place is working, but it's way to negative a team who can really play the ball around at pace would totally kill us. We weren't abl to keep possission against Bari the last time we played those 3 and agains the same thing happened at Inter. All I'm saying is that if we want to succeed in the long run then that midfield cannot have 3 DMs especially not when Rino is onvolved, who has become a huge liability these days... QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 15 2010, 06:23 PM)  This is getting a bit old. Seedorf shouldn't play because he disappears in the 60' etc. Well, Seedorf's played three games in the last week and was by far one of our best players in all of them. I've been bashing Seedorf for years, but even I am rational enough to realize he's in great shape right now and should always be a starter, at least until he starts underperforming again. Seedorf has been great lately, but the man cannot function after a certain point, especially when he is made to work as hard as he did yesterday where he had to basically run back in front of the defence to pick up the ball everytime, especially before Pirlo came on. He can't play every 3 days and we always have to sub someone in for him because he can't cope with it. I'd personally play Boateng in midfield pirlo behind the strikers in big Serie A and CL games, against sh!t teams in Serie A we need Pirlo in the mid and an AM, simply because they park the bus on us. But wanting to play Seedorf every 3 days is just irrational and never going to work. He's in great form now, but like usual if we continue to burn him out he'll start playing like sh!t again sooner rather then later
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Nov 15 2010, 07:29 PM
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Han, you're unbelievable. QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2010, 08:19 PM)  I want a Milan with balance. Says the one who likes to use Ronaldinho as our AM. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) With those 3 so called DMs we have a very strong midfield that will win the battle, now if that is no balance, and they are not just 3 DMs and nothing else but. No, Flamini is doing more than just being a DM, he's doing that what we want from Boateng, but better. We were playing Inter and we're the obvious better team in the first half, we ended up winning with having 10 men in 2nd half. But no, you still complain about balance which is the most ironic thing ever coming from you.
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Nov 15 2010, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 15 2010, 07:29 PM)  Han, you're unbelievable. Says the one who likes to use Ronaldinho as our AM. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) With those 3 so called DMs we have a very strong midfield that will win the battle, now if that is no balance, and they are not just 3 DMs and nothing else but. No, Flamini is doing more than just being a DM, he's doing that what we want from Boateng, but better. We were playing Inter and we're the obvious better team in the first half, we ended up winning with having 10 men in 2nd half. But no, you still complain about balance which is the most ironic thing ever coming from you. Oh please don't make this about Dinho!!!!!!! I never mentioned him so don't bring him into this. It has nothing to do with the attack but with the midfield No that's not balance, that's playing negatively. Watch the game again, those 30 minutes aside where Inter let us do whatever we wanted, we struggled to string more then 5 passes together. You think it's good that the AM had to drop so deep to pick up the ball? No that is clearly a red light that something is not functioning. How is 3 DMs balance? No other big team plays with 3, these are teams that are winning on a consistant basis not just happy about winning the derby against a really poor and struggling team. Also we kept the win in the 2nd half because a. Nesta, Thiago, Ambro and Flamini were amazing b. Pirlo came in instead of Rino who ran like a headless chicken all game and c. Inter were toothless and basically had no ideas aside from passing it sideways. We did the exact same thing against Real, only they found a way to easily cut us open.
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Nov 15 2010, 08:12 PM
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