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post Oct 14 2010, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (samira @ Oct 14 2010, 06:34 PM) *
Isn't he on loan for Racing Santander


Nope. He played for Racing until Real signed him this summer. He's never been on loan.
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post Oct 14 2010, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 14 2010, 12:53 PM) *
Kaka at his peak was better than the pair of them! He didn't need silly party pieces or 100 stepovers a minute to beat players but he could influence a game by sheer brilliance. His goal against Manu when he left the 2 Utd players on their a55es and made them look like amateurs proved that. Sheer genius.


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post Oct 14 2010, 07:20 PM
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To this day, that's the best goal I have ever witnessed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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post Oct 14 2010, 07:40 PM
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 14 2010, 04:53 PM) *
Kaka at his peak was better than the pair of them! He didn't need silly party pieces or 100 stepovers a minute to beat players but he could influence a game by sheer brilliance. His goal against Manu when he left the 2 Utd players on their a55es and made them look like amateurs proved that. Sheer genius.

I think that's stilla debatable issue, all 3 have their respective strengths. At their peaks, I'd still go for Kaka, because h's the type of player i like, direct. Personally I think both Kaka and Dinho are better footballers then C.Ron who depends on his physique a lot, rather then using his brain.

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Comparing his last three years to his prime Barça years will always be a topic of debate. It's like, he was this great footballer that hooked the whole world, but then the next day he just disappeared. Dinho might be playing for a top European club right now, but how many people from the other European leagues know what he's up to? He's failed to impress, and he's become just a normal player. If you ask me, that's got "fail" written all over it. Even the original Ronaldo, despite his struggles with injuries and his current conditions, managed to perform for about 8-9 years at high levels.


The downfall of Ronaldinho can only be attributed to Ronaldinho himself, that is something we both agree with. And yes he's not what he used to be and never will be, he's 30 now, so no matter how hard he works, he will never regain his speed and agility, imo that's not because he's not trying now, but because he wasted those years,doing god knows what.

Having said that, I think some of the blame as to why he's not mentioned that much is because he's in the Serie A and not in the EPL. Last season in terms of stats he was second to none.

The original Ronaldo had those 8 years halved out by being injured for half of them, then came the weight gain, etc, etc. Imo he's another player that could have achieved a lot more had he worked at it rather then let the Burger King wave take him to where it pleased. This is why I respect Dinho now, because even though he and all the fans know that he won't be regaining what he had in the past he still has a lot to offer, so he's working hard to remain in shape.

Personally I used to hate that old magical, explosive Dinho, but I admire the slower one we have now
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 09:20 PM) *
Personally I used to hate that old magical, explosive Dinho, but I admire the slower one we have now


That's because you're a weirdo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 07:35 PM) *
That's because you're a weirdo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 16 2010, 09:06 PM
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Considering tonight's developments, this is how I see us playing on Tuesday.

Abbiati
Zambrotta - Nesta - Bonera - Antonini
Gattuso - Pirlo - Seedorf
Ronaldinho
Pato - Ibrahimovic


Do I approve? No. I hate this fetish of Allergi playing the same old midfield every three days. I'm pretty certain there's no way in hell Rino and Seedorf will be benched against Real, therefore why not play Boateng and Flamini tonight instead? We have a very rich and decent group of players, yet we keep playing the same line-up every time.

I'd also choose Sokratis over Bonera as CB any day, but considering he wasn't even on the bench tonight, I doubt Allegri will pick him. In fact, when he was asked after the game about Thiago's injury, he said we've got Bonera and Yepes who can substitute him. He didn't even mention Papa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Oct 16 2010, 09:17 PM
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Playing Seedorf along Pirlo is something we can do against Chievo but I would hate to see that happening against Real Madrid. Also, Boateng showed he should be a starter, and he will give the needed balance in midfield, and more than that. Gattuso is our best DM, so he should start also, he is having an awesome season, and I don't buy it he will be too tired that day. He has a few days rest after having how long rest before today's match?

Pato, Ibrahimovic
Ronaldinho
Gattuso, Pirlo, Boateng
Antonini, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Zambrotta
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edit: changed central defense

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post Oct 16 2010, 09:21 PM
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If you wanna hear my opinion, Bonera is much better than Yepes. Yepes is our substitute of Favalli, he hasn't played a single game so far and on top of that, he's 34. He never impressed me in pre-season either. Definitely not Real-Milan material.

I thought Sokratis would be our first choice back-up this season. He had some really good displays in pre-season as CB, he's young but also experienced. The fact Allegri doesn't even consider him and we're left with only Bonera and Yepes worries me. I really hope we sign David Luiz.

Totally agree with you about playing Boateng instead of Seedorf. I'd play Boateng every game if it was up to me.
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post Oct 16 2010, 09:29 PM
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I guess it's indeed weird to pick a player who hasn't play a minute yet (bar pre-season). I will put Sokratis in my line-up since he would indeed be my first choice also. But we all know it will be Bonera who is going to start. I have a bad feeling about that.

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IMO Yepes is better then Bonera. Allegri seems to have lost faith in Sokratis after that one very bad match...a silly thing to do, because I'd say he's the logical choice.

Yepes and Bonera combined with Nesta mean a slow defense that his held by a slow midfield if Rino-Seedorf-Ronaldinho will play. This means that we will have a evident disadvantage from minute 1 and it will get only worse and worse.

The players we field even a 5-substitution rule wouldn't be enough to hold down the last 15-20 minutes concentrated. And thanks to Allegri who seems to be afraid of taking Ibra off, we now have also a very tired striker in addition. I'm very worried.
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post Oct 16 2010, 10:14 PM
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Ibra is one of those players who can play every single match offering constantly a high performance. He did that at Inter and he'll do it with us as well, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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post Oct 16 2010, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2010, 11:14 PM) *
Ibra is one of those players who can play every single match offering constantly a high performance. He did that at Inter and he'll do it with us as well, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Don't you think he looked a bit exhausted at the end?
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post Oct 16 2010, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 16 2010, 11:32 PM) *
Don't you think he looked a bit exhausted at the end?


Nah, that's just him. Besides, he only played one game with Sweden so had plenty of time to rest.
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